Konami trademarking a New Suikoden title

[Elandyll]

http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/5374.html

Role-playing fans will always smile at the mention of "Suikoden," as it usually brings back tons of pleasant memories from the PS1 and PS2 days.

The original was woefully underrated by critics - GameSpot should burn for that score - but RPG fans adored it, and each and every installment since then (with the exception of Suikoden IV) have really delivered for fans of the genre, which is why we're all kinds of excited about seeing Konami trademark a new Suikoden title. Personally, I've been waiting for a new entry in the franchise since Suikoden V; this series always gives us fantastic storylines, great characters, and a turn-based style of combat that just never got old. Of course, we get the feeling that if this new project is indeed for consoles, there's little chance it will be true turn-based, as that mechanic appears to be extinct. But we imagine the story should once again be well worth seeing, and remember, all previous iterations have been exclusive to the PlayStation brand. Granted, we're in a new generation now - one that is quick to kill off third-party exclusivity - but we'd like to believe Konami should know exactly where their supporting fans are...yeah, they're very likely on the PlayStation side of things. So don't forget about us!

But really, we just want Suikoden VI for next-gen consoles. Next to Final Fantasy, it's my favorite all-time RPG franchise and I had better get another awesome title! I'm not demanding or anything...

http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?r...entry=77765442

Good news soon ?

[androvsky]

Originally Posted by Elandyll

http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/5374.html



http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?r...entry=77765442

Good news soon ?

Good news... in six months? Maybe? The odd thing is the trademark is for Genso Suikoden, which is the full name of the series in Japan. Might be a good name for the western markets if they're doing a remake, but I have to wonder if maybe they're just plugging a potential loophole they've left open for 15 years.

[jeabombers]

Originally Posted by Elandyll

http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/5374.html



http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?r...entry=77765442

Good news soon ?

Sounds like good news to me. I never played 1-3, but I really enjoyed 4 (since traditionalists didn't like it, I had no problem with liking it) and 5 both. I didn't play Tactics, but it just wasn't that high on my "to do" list. Maybe if I found it cheap someplace I would pick it up. High def (but skippable) effects on magic attacks would be cool, and a new story in the Suikoden world. Maybe one day we will get a story that actually links all the continents together? SURELY they aren't so far apart that they can't be reached by ship, and SURELY some nefarious world-domination-seeking not-so-bad guy would like to "try to take over the world".....

[BlackMamba]

The article is 100% right! Gamespot should burn for the scores they gave to Suikoden 1 and 2, arguably two of the absolute BEST RPGs available for the original Playstation. The fact that they let some RPG "newbs" (sorry, I hate that word too) review those games was a travesty.

[BlackMamba]

Originally Posted by jeabombers

Sounds like good news to me. I never played 1-3, but I really enjoyed 4 (since traditionalists didn't like it, I had no problem with liking it) and 5 both. I didn't play Tactics, but it just wasn't that high on my "to do" list. Maybe if I found it cheap someplace I would pick it up. High def (but skippable) effects on magic attacks would be cool, and a new story in the Suikoden world. Maybe one day we will get a story that actually links all the continents together? SURELY they aren't so far apart that they can't be reached by ship, and SURELY some nefarious world-domination-seeking not-so-bad guy would like to "try to take over the world".....

jea, 4 is arguably the worst of the series. You HAVE to play Suikoden 1 and 2. Maybe they may not have the same effect on you as they had on me back in the day (due to the fact that you're playing them almost a decade later), but they are two of my favorite games of all time. Maybe, I'm hyping them up too much, but I think you'll enjoy them.

[MOONPHASE]

Originally Posted by BlackMamba

The article is 100% right! Gamespot should burn for the scores they gave to Suikoden 1 and 2, arguably two of the absolute BEST RPGs available for the original Playstation. The fact that they let some RPG "newbs" (sorry, I hate that word too) review those games was a travesty.

Honestly there isn't many good JRPG reviewers out there to begin with. There are some average ones out there but honestly really hard to find an excellent reviewer for JRPGs that come to America.

[jeabombers]

Originally Posted by BlackMamba

jea, 4 is arguably the worst of the series. You HAVE to play Suikoden 1 and 2. Maybe they may not have the same effect on you as they had on me back in the day (due to the fact that you're playing them almost a decade later), but they are two of my favorite games of all time. Maybe, I'm hyping them up too much, but I think you'll enjoy them.

The problem with that would be that they are games that are inflated in price due to rarity, correct? Of course, I liked Star Ocean 3 more than the first two, and so many fans of that series thought SO3 was a travesty.... Having played One and Two now, I've come to my own conclusion that 3 is better in that series' case.

[MOONPHASE]

Originally Posted by jeabombers

The problem with that would be that they are games that are inflated in price due to rarity, correct? Of course, I liked Star Ocean 3 more than the first two, and so many fans of that series thought SO3 was a travesty.... Having played One and Two now, I've come to my own conclusion that 3 is better in that series' case.

Star Ocean 2 had a little sequel to it for Gameboy Color before SO3 came out

[Soulblazer]

After have seeing JRPGs doing so well on 360 Konami will for sure make it on 360. (sarcasm)

I really hope they look at the sales for other JRPGs on 360 and PS3 before they made a decision. WKC outsold 360's JRPGs worldwide (exept LO) with 400k in Japan alone.

But because Suikoden is not a very big cashcow I don't think Microsoft is seeing any potential in this series to add more sales to them. I don't think Sony would care at this series anymore because the fifth game didn't do that well.

It's up to Konami which system they want Suikoden on.

[bandit29]

I'd be more excited about this if all the games after Suikoden II didn't suck...

[Septimus Prime]

I'm not a big fan of the series.

[dereksworl]

Originally Posted by BlackMamba

jea, 4 is arguably the worst of the series. You HAVE to play Suikoden 1 and 2. Maybe they may not have the same effect on you as they had on me back in the day (due to the fact that you're playing them almost a decade later), but they are two of my favorite games of all time. Maybe, I'm hyping them up too much, but I think you'll enjoy them.

I kinda liked Suikoden 4.

[jeabombers]

Originally Posted by dereksworl

I kinda liked Suikoden 4.

I'm glad I'm not the only one. Going from a nobody to someone that "kings" respect and admire is a great story. Of course, I typically don't play games for their game play. I play for the story. To me it makes no difference if you don't have 6 characters in your party so that you can do a super-ultra-combo-special-uber-destructo-cool move, as opposed to 4 characters doing the exact same type of move....

[BlackMamba]

Originally Posted by dereksworl

I kinda liked Suikoden 4.

Well, don't let the opinions of others sway you - if you liked 4 you liked 4! I too have a fair share of games I enjoyed despite critical bashing (two of which were Beyond the Beyond and Saga Frontier, although I admit I had weird reasons for liking the both of them).

On another note, I liked 5. It harkened (lol, never thought I'd use that word again) back to the old days of Suikoden 1 and 2. In my mind (and in the minds of other Suikoden fans), it is the spiritual successor to the earlier Suikodens on the PS1.

[Cordre69]

I liked 1 when it first came out but it did not age well. Never played 2. 3 and 4 did nothing for me, and as far as I remember I never played 5. If I did, I completely forgot about it so that'd pretty much sum up my feelings about it.

People like weird games sometimes. I always deduct major points from my reviews if the main character doesn't speak. Dragon Quest is guilty of this. Even Chrono Trigger is, but everything else was such a masterpiece that it still rates among my top 5.

[ezcobar411]

I hope that Suikoden finds Its way to the PS3. I love this series. I wasn't that fond of 3 or 4, but I can't help but to remember how much I loved 1 and 2. 5 did the series justice.

Konami, please make my dreams come true

[dk3dknight]

Originally Posted by Elandyll

http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/5374.html



http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?r...entry=77765442

Good news soon ?

Maybe, Maybe not.. hopefully they do not do what they did with the last suikoden title Gensō Suikoden Tierkreis... which was released on the Nintendo DS

Originally Posted by androvsky

Good news... in six months? Maybe? The odd thing is the trademark is for Genso Suikoden, which is the full name of the series in Japan. Might be a good name for the western markets if they're doing a remake, but I have to wonder if maybe they're just plugging a potential loophole they've left open for 15 years.

Dunno.. there have been some articles in the past, I think maybe they have been working on this for awhile... I mean those stories don't write themselves.

Originally Posted by jeabombers

Sounds like good news to me. I never played 1-3, but I really enjoyed 4 (since traditionalists didn't like it, I had no problem with liking it) and 5 both. I didn't play Tactics, but it just wasn't that high on my "to do" list. Maybe if I found it cheap someplace I would pick it up. High def (but skippable) effects on magic attacks would be cool, and a new story in the Suikoden world. Maybe one day we will get a story that actually links all the continents together? SURELY they aren't so far apart that they can't be reached by ship, and SURELY some nefarious world-domination-seeking not-so-bad guy would like to "try to take over the world".....

Bah I hated 3 to be honest, liked 1-2, played the demo for 4 seemed okay, liked 5.

Originally Posted by BlackMamba

The article is 100% right! Gamespot should burn for the scores they gave to Suikoden 1 and 2, arguably two of the absolute BEST RPGs available for the original Playstation. The fact that they let some RPG "newbs" (sorry, I hate that word too) review those games was a travesty.

I love it when they let sports people review rpgs and the first part of the review says I really don't like rpgs, or I hate Japanese games..

Usually that is as far as I need go and a remembrance to not buy that magazine again.

Originally Posted by BlackMamba

jea, 4 is arguably the worst of the series. You HAVE to play Suikoden 1 and 2. Maybe they may not have the same effect on you as they had on me back in the day (due to the fact that you're playing them almost a decade later), but they are two of my favorite games of all time. Maybe, I'm hyping them up too much, but I think you'll enjoy them.

Come off of it, 3 was so so not suikoden it was too serious all the time and the characters physically had a large rod shoved up there butts...

Originally Posted by MOONPHASE

Honestly there isn't many good JRPG reviewers out there to begin with. There are some average ones out there but honestly really hard to find an excellent reviewer for JRPGs that come to America.

Agreed.

Originally Posted by jeabombers

The problem with that would be that they are games that are inflated in price due to rarity, correct? Of course, I liked Star Ocean 3 more than the first two, and so many fans of that series thought SO3 was a travesty.... Having played One and Two now, I've come to my own conclusion that 3 is better in that series' case.

I Love all the star oceans 1-3, I could say nothing about 4 because it has not been made available in a way that I could play it.. but ive been tempted to buy the strategy guide...

Originally Posted by MOONPHASE

Star Ocean 2 had a little sequel to it for Gameboy Color before SO3 came out

I tried that one, but not knowing japanese my attmempt did not last long.

Originally Posted by Soulblazer

After have seeing JRPGs doing so well on 360 Konami will for sure make it on 360. (sarcasm)

Im more afraid it would go exclusive wii...

I really hope they look at the sales for other JRPGs on 360 and PS3 before they made a decision. WKC outsold 360's JRPGs worldwide (exept LO) with 400k in Japan alone.

But because Suikoden is not a very big cashcow I don't think Microsoft is seeing any potential in this series to add more sales to them. I don't think Sony would care at this series anymore because the fifth game didn't do that well.

Its always been a ninch but Im too afraid they will seek the larger masses of wii users... in hopes for more $$$ in which ill be very sad.

It's up to Konami which system they want Suikoden on.

Originally Posted by bandit29

I'd be more excited about this if all the games after Suikoden II didn't suck...

V rocked to be honest.. it was in line with 1 and 2.

Originally Posted by Septimus Prime

I'm not a big fan of the series.

Your loss.

Originally Posted by dereksworl

I kinda liked Suikoden 4.

Nothing wrong with that.

Originally Posted by jeabombers

I'm glad I'm not the only one. Going from a nobody to someone that "kings" respect and admire is a great story. Of course, I typically don't play games for their game play. I play for the story. To me it makes no difference if you don't have 6 characters in your party so that you can do a super-ultra-combo-special-uber-destructo-cool move, as opposed to 4 characters doing the exact same type of move....

That tends to be a theme of all suikoden titles except sometimes it has someone who is someone take a great fall and have to become someone again.

Originally Posted by BlackMamba

Well, don't let the opinions of others sway you - if you liked 4 you liked 4! I too have a fair share of games I enjoyed despite critical bashing (two of which were Beyond the Beyond and Saga Frontier, although I admit I had weird reasons for liking the both of them).

On another note, I liked 5. It harkened (lol, never thought I'd use that word again) back to the old days of Suikoden 1 and 2. In my mind (and in the minds of other Suikoden fans), it is the spiritual successor to the earlier Suikodens on the PS1.

I agree further more 5 brought back some of the inteligeince back into the series...

Originally Posted by Cordre69

I liked 1 when it first came out but it did not age well. Never played 2. 3 and 4 did nothing for me, and as far as I remember I never played 5. If I did, I completely forgot about it so that'd pretty much sum up my feelings about it.

5 was a sleeper title.. I didn't know it was out till I found it used.. -_- and went when did this come out... Blind buy.

People like weird games sometimes. I always deduct major points from my reviews if the main character doesn't speak. Dragon Quest is guilty of this. Even Chrono Trigger is, but everything else was such a masterpiece that it still rates among my top 5.

Originally Posted by ezcobar411

I hope that Suikoden finds Its way to the PS3. I love this series. I wasn't that fond of 3 or 4, but I can't help but to remember how much I loved 1 and 2. 5 did the series justice.

Konami, please make my dreams come true

Amen.

[Musashi]

Originally Posted by Cordre69

I always deduct major points from my reviews if the main character doesn't speak. Dragon Quest is guilty of this. Even Chrono Trigger is, but everything else was such a masterpiece that it still rates among my top 5.

Speakin' my language here; I never understood or liked it when they did that. The main character should have the most lines. I've heard the excuse "so he'll be more like you" I reply "devoid of personality?" I think not."

But I can't hate Chrono Trigger.

[BlackMamba]

Originally Posted by Musashi

Speakin' my language here; I never understood or liked it when they did that. The main character should have the most lines. I've heard the excuse "so he'll be more like you" I reply "devoid of personality?" I think not."

But I can't hate Chrono Trigger.

I can't say I agree with you guys here. I don't mind when the main character doesn't speak. It leaves more up to the imagination which is a lot more interesting (in most cases). Some of the best JRPGs of all time have mute main characters and I wouldn't want it any other way! I'd also venture to say that JRPGs with (essentially) mute main characters have an overall higher review rating than ones with guys who can speak. I say "essentially mute" because I include games like the Personas where the main character is mute besides the text choices you make here and there when responding to NPCs.

[BlackMamba]

nice dk3dknight! Responding to everyone's comments deserves props