What constitutes a "different" SteelBook - Blu-ray Forum

xradman · 08-05-2009, 02:15 PM

With yet another T2 Blu-ray SteelBook now announced in Germany, the concept of different and unique has been diluted once again. In your opinion, what constitutes a "different" SteelBook? Would having different UPC or release from a different country suffice or does unique content or external supplement (such as post cards, poster, or book) necessary. Or do you consider same movie release not different even if they have different cover or content?

tiger_qc · 08-05-2009, 02:52 PM

To me the UPC makes the Steel different.

Cheers,
Gui.

mr. b · 08-05-2009, 03:15 PM

I consider the actual SteelBook when collecting them, not the additional contents, upc sticker, or location where it came from. If the artwork is different on the metal, then I consider it to be a different steelbook because quite simply, it is a different steelbook. If Germany's T2 winds up being the exact same as the others, then imho, it is the same steelbook as all the others. Hell, they probably printed them all up at the same time since the markings for the steelbooks for all these varying countries are identical on the T2 cases. Adding a back cover, different upc, extra cards, etc. simply makes it unique and specific to that country it is being released. If I was simply counting them up, then I would still consider each separate T2 since they are actual different releases, but I see them as identical when it comes to how I collect them. I actually like this idea also of the same steelbook available from different parts of the world; makes it much easier to obtain.

thaima1shu · 08-05-2009, 03:59 PM

It's all in the cover art for me.

opterasis · 08-05-2009, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thaima1shu

It's all in the cover art for me.

Same. I bought 2 different Dark Knight steels because of the different cover art, but I would never buy all of the T2 steels that all seem to have the same cover art.

iori · 08-05-2009, 04:14 PM

Cover art and if maybe if there was something different about the movie like a directors cut on one and not the other.

jojo2351 · 08-05-2009, 04:16 PM

differnet UPC = different Steelbook for me,

but i don't buy all Steelbooks (one T2, one TDK,...)

Pfdfiredog · 08-05-2009, 05:16 PM

For me it would be a different cover art, but I would get a different countries copy of that title if the extra footage or special features were different even though it had the same cover.
I dont care about art cards or extenal supplements unless it's really a stunning extra.

Minimejer05 · 08-05-2009, 05:55 PM

Its all about the cover art for me.

crashkelly · 08-05-2009, 06:19 PM

For me, this was a toss up as there is part of me the thinks that a different UPC consitutes a different steelbook, but as it has been mentioned, some releases are a different UPC on the outside packaging, but if you were to open the steelbook

you would find the same UPC for the same release from the same country. In this case I am speaking specifically about the FNAC vs amazon.fr releases such as Body of Lies & Gran Torino.

However, the recent release of the German Gran Torino threw another wrench into the mix. I obtained my copy from a retailer in Switzerland and it has the same cover art and UPC as the release from amazon.de, but amazon.de has different exterior packaging.

I hence voted for the different packaging. I do not know if I will continue to acquire "every" steelbook made due the plethora of multi-country releases with the same artwork, but then again I just might.

The waters are very muddy on this issue right now and I think it will be a lot of to each his own on this topic with no definative answer coming forth anytime soon.

Pfdfiredog · 08-05-2009, 10:44 PM

He he Unless your wallet tells you too.... Or worse the wife in some of our cases..

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Happy steel coll. / wife / unhappy steel coll.

crashkelly · 08-05-2009, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pfdfiredog

He he Unless your wallet tells you too.... Or worse the wife in some of our cases..

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Happy steel coll. / wife / unhappy steel coll.

I have ways of keeping her quiet

Pfdfiredog · 08-05-2009, 11:32 PM

Yea I do to, but that would require marrying her, and I already "crashed" on that 2 times so I will here the ranting for a little longer.....for now

crashkelly · 08-05-2009, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pfdfiredog

Yea I do to, but that would require marrying her, and I already "crashed" on that 2 times so I will here the ranting for a little longer.....for now

Well I married mine and that was one of the ways I keep her quiet.

I "crashed" on one before this one, and no that is not where the username comes from

View Poll Results: What constitutes a "different" SteelBook for a given movie?
Must have a different UPC or released from different country	6	17.14%
Must have unique cover art	28	80.00%
Must have unique external content (post cards, book, poster, etc)	2	5.71%
Must have different internal supplement or encode (additional commentary, etc)	0	0%
Must be a different movie (all same movies are the same)	2	5.71%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 35. You may not vote on this poll

08-05-2009, 02:15 PM	#1
xradman Power Member Top contributor Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Northern VA SteelBooks™ Owned : 341 Home Theater Gallery:11 Blu-ray collection:356 Blu-ray reviews:20 Trading Score:22	What constitutes a "different" SteelBook With yet another T2 Blu-ray SteelBook now announced in Germany, the concept of different and unique has been diluted once again. In your opinion, what constitutes a "different" SteelBook? Would having different UPC or release from a different country suffice or does unique content or external supplement (such as post cards, poster, or book) necessary. Or do you consider same movie release not different even if they have different cover or content?

08-05-2009, 10:44 PM	#11
Pfdfiredog Expert Member Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Florida Blu-ray collection:852 DVD collection:28 Trading Score:11	He he Unless your wallet tells you too.... Or worse the wife in some of our cases.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Happy steel coll. / wife / unhappy steel coll. Last edited by Pfdfiredog; 08-05-2009 at 10:47 PM.

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08-05-2009, 02:52 PM	#2
tiger_qc Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Quebec City, Canada Home Theater Gallery:69 4K collection:171 Blu-ray collection:1420 DVD collection:221 Digital collection:86 iTunes collection:73 Trading Score:84	To me the UPC makes the Steel different. Cheers, Gui.

08-05-2009, 03:15 PM	#3
mr. b Special Member Member since:Oct 2008 Location:Texas 4K collection:41 Blu-ray collection:839 Digital collection:142 Trading Score:32	I consider the actual SteelBook when collecting them, not the additional contents, upc sticker, or location where it came from. If the artwork is different on the metal, then I consider it to be a different steelbook because quite simply, it is a different steelbook. If Germany's T2 winds up being the exact same as the others, then imho, it is the same steelbook as all the others. Hell, they probably printed them all up at the same time since the markings for the steelbooks for all these varying countries are identical on the T2 cases. Adding a back cover, different upc, extra cards, etc. simply makes it unique and specific to that country it is being released. If I was simply counting them up, then I would still consider each separate T2 since they are actual different releases, but I see them as identical when it comes to how I collect them. I actually like this idea also of the same steelbook available from different parts of the world; makes it much easier to obtain.

08-05-2009, 03:59 PM	#4
thaima1shu Active Member Member since:Nov 2008 Blu-ray collection:313 Trading Score:8	It's all in the cover art for me.

08-05-2009, 04:14 PM	#6
iori Power Member Member since:Apr 2009 Trading Score:2	Cover art and if maybe if there was something different about the movie like a directors cut on one and not the other.

08-05-2009, 04:16 PM	#7
jojo2351 Expert Member Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Austria, Vienna Trading Score:38	differnet UPC = different Steelbook for me, but i don't buy all Steelbooks (one T2, one TDK,...)

08-05-2009, 05:16 PM	#8
Pfdfiredog Expert Member Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Florida Blu-ray collection:852 DVD collection:28 Trading Score:11	For me it would be a different cover art, but I would get a different countries copy of that title if the extra footage or special features were different even though it had the same cover. I dont care about art cards or extenal supplements unless it's really a stunning extra.

08-05-2009, 05:55 PM	#9
Minimejer05 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Minnesota Home Theater Gallery:14 4K collection:532 Blu-ray collection:1995 Blu-ray reviews:28 Trading Score:6	Its all about the cover art for me.

08-05-2009, 06:19 PM	#10
crashkelly Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Mar 2009 Location:Great White North Home Theater Gallery:31 Blu-ray collection:449 Trading Score:134	For me, this was a toss up as there is part of me the thinks that a different UPC consitutes a different steelbook, but as it has been mentioned, some releases are a different UPC on the outside packaging, but if you were to open the steelbook you would find the same UPC for the same release from the same country. In this case I am speaking specifically about the FNAC vs amazon.fr releases such as Body of Lies & Gran Torino. However, the recent release of the German Gran Torino threw another wrench into the mix. I obtained my copy from a retailer in Switzerland and it has the same cover art and UPC as the release from amazon.de, but amazon.de has different exterior packaging. I hence voted for the different packaging. I do not know if I will continue to acquire "every" steelbook made due the plethora of multi-country releases with the same artwork, but then again I just might. The waters are very muddy on this issue right now and I think it will be a lot of to each his own on this topic with no definative answer coming forth anytime soon.

08-05-2009, 11:32 PM	#13
Pfdfiredog Expert Member Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Florida Blu-ray collection:852 DVD collection:28 Trading Score:11	Yea I do to, but that would require marrying her, and I already "crashed" on that 2 times so I will here the ranting for a little longer.....for now

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