HD DVD Dead By Fall 2007 - Blu-ray Forum

Tekman · 06-27-2007, 11:57 PM

had an interesting and very informative conversation with Ken Lowe of Sigma Designs and what he had to say about the next-gen DVD format war blew me away. But first, a little bit about Sigma Designs and why this man’s opinion should matter to those of you on the fence. Sigma Designs’ media processors work with both standards and currently power six of the nine Blu-ray players available on the market today including Sharp, Sony, Panasonic, and Pioneer. He’s not playing favorites, just telling it like it is.

Maybe I’m being naïve about the whole format battle, but I didn’t think that an end would be in sight for quite some time. I will concede and say that I’m wrong. Ken looks at it like a game of chess. Blu-ray is picking off HD DVD’s rooks one by one and their King is about to be ‘mated. If HD DVD is able to make a significant move within the next 60 to 90 days then they might save themselves, but the holiday season will determine the winner, says Ken. Cutting the price on HD DVD players just isn’t going to cut it. He also tells us that the PC market is playing a bigger role than first expected. What’s the one thing we always desire in our PC/Mac? More space, right? Blu-ray offers 25GB on a single-layer, 50GB on a dual-layer and HD DVD can only muster up 15GB and 30GB, respectively.

HD DVD is dead, people. Blu-ray is the clear champion and you better straighten up or you’ll be wasting your money. But if you’re like me then you won’t be making your next-gen DVD purchase for quite a while. Shall we sit on the porch with a cold beverage and see how and when this battle will turn out?

http://crunchgear.com/2007/06/27/int...d-dvd-is-dead/

movies3 · 06-28-2007, 12:03 AM

lol yea, i have a feeling HD dvd is already dead, there just sticking around for no reason.

GasCat · 06-28-2007, 12:11 AM

Great point about computers being the deciding factor.

I put it at Winter 2007-2008 but Fall sounds good.

movies3 · 06-28-2007, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GasCat

Great point about computers being the deciding factor.

I put it at Winter 2007-2008 but Fall sounds good.

Dell already puts Blu-ray drives in there lappys

GasCat · 06-28-2007, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by movies3

Dell already puts Blu-ray drives in there lappys

You're right, it sounds like that was a bigger story than Blockbuster. I've seen a number of people come on here and say they're using PowerDVD to watch movies.

buckshot · 06-28-2007, 12:59 AM

every format dies (eventually) not every format really lives.

PaulDubya · 06-28-2007, 01:13 AM

lets be honest the HD war isnt even that. Its a massacre! ! ! ! We the true Blu fans have always known that our choice was the wise and clearest one. The soul of HD-dvd is having a heart attack. In the words of Samuel Jackson. When ever some one asks me about HD-dvd ill say:"yes i know what it is and i hope they all burn in hell" lol

jrchisholm · 06-28-2007, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by movies3

lol yea, i have a feeling HD dvd is already dead, there just sticking around for no reason.

HD DVD is already dead. They are like zombies - mindlessly wondering around with no purpose.

GasCat · 06-28-2007, 04:49 AM

You don't even want to get into an argument with them. They have lost their sense of reality.

HD-DVD'er: "Spiderman can kick Superman's butt."
Blu-Ray'er: "...ok..."
HD-DVD'er: "You got a problem with that?"
Blu-Ray'er: "umm, ya...uh..excuse me."

bferr1 · 06-28-2007, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by buckshot

every format dies (eventually) not every format really lives.

What movie is that from? Braveheart?

ProvenFlipper · 06-28-2007, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by nyg

I already straightened up but thanks for looking out for people like me.

Welcome back... Still have your HD-DVD equipment?

Dave · 06-28-2007, 05:49 AM

This is so cool

baccusboy · 06-28-2007, 05:53 AM

The only way I see HD-DVD pulling this out is:

1. If they start selling their movies for half the price of BR disks (fat chance).
2. BR owners suddenly wake up to disk rot on more than just a few of their titles -- scaring people away.
3. Toshiba starts giving away one free ticket to Pattaya, Thailand, with any HD-DVD purchase.

Curumo · 06-28-2007, 01:34 PM

yes, holliday season is reasonable date of finishig hd dvd crazy cow, and of course pc/mac segment is very, very important (for example, pc users enjoy upscaling of sdvds for a a long long time... i am pretty sure pc will have soon some advantage even with a BDs comparing to standalones)...
but i don't understand why everybody forget the biggest thing of all:
people, there's a bd player that plays a lot more than movies... it is, or better to say, it will soon be a kind of real personal computer... games that are gonna be played on it will look incredible by today's standards, it is fastest, has one of the best pictures, it is completely future proof, it is the cheapest choice, hardware is monstruos compared to anything else on the market...
it is ps3, with the power yet to be unleashed...
what hd dvd machine can compare to that, even it is given for free?
even more, death of hddvd means almost immediately the death of xbox360 unless MS make a BD supplement or whatever...
nevertheless, good point, it is nat a war, it is massacre...

CJ P · 06-28-2007, 02:12 PM

Typically in format wars what happens is there is a neck and neck period and then one side gets a toehold. When the toehold is big enough that consumers SEE they have a toehold, then it just explodes. I think BD is either already at that point or quickly approaching it. THAT is why I bought a PS3.

06-27-2007, 11:57 PM	#1
Tekman Active Member Member since:Apr 2007	HD DVD Dead By Fall 2007 had an interesting and very informative conversation with Ken Lowe of Sigma Designs and what he had to say about the next-gen DVD format war blew me away. But first, a little bit about Sigma Designs and why this man’s opinion should matter to those of you on the fence. Sigma Designs’ media processors work with both standards and currently power six of the nine Blu-ray players available on the market today including Sharp, Sony, Panasonic, and Pioneer. He’s not playing favorites, just telling it like it is. Maybe I’m being naïve about the whole format battle, but I didn’t think that an end would be in sight for quite some time. I will concede and say that I’m wrong. Ken looks at it like a game of chess. Blu-ray is picking off HD DVD’s rooks one by one and their King is about to be ‘mated. If HD DVD is able to make a significant move within the next 60 to 90 days then they might save themselves, but the holiday season will determine the winner, says Ken. Cutting the price on HD DVD players just isn’t going to cut it. He also tells us that the PC market is playing a bigger role than first expected. What’s the one thing we always desire in our PC/Mac? More space, right? Blu-ray offers 25GB on a single-layer, 50GB on a dual-layer and HD DVD can only muster up 15GB and 30GB, respectively. HD DVD is dead, people. Blu-ray is the clear champion and you better straighten up or you’ll be wasting your money. But if you’re like me then you won’t be making your next-gen DVD purchase for quite a while. Shall we sit on the porch with a cold beverage and see how and when this battle will turn out? http://crunchgear.com/2007/06/27/int...d-dvd-is-dead/

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06-28-2007, 12:03 AM	#2
movies3 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jul 2006 Location:KY Blu-ray collection:5 Blu-ray reviews:56	lol yea, i have a feeling HD dvd is already dead, there just sticking around for no reason.

06-28-2007, 12:11 AM	#3
GasCat Special Member Member since:Jan 2007 Blu-ray reviews:1	Great point about computers being the deciding factor. I put it at Winter 2007-2008 but Fall sounds good.

06-28-2007, 12:59 AM	#6
buckshot Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2007 Location:san die ego Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:9	every format dies (eventually) not every format really lives.

06-28-2007, 01:13 AM	#7
PaulDubya Senior Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Miami Florida "305" Blu-ray collection:68 Blu-ray reviews:16	lets be honest the HD war isnt even that. Its a massacre! ! ! ! We the true Blu fans have always known that our choice was the wise and clearest one. The soul of HD-dvd is having a heart attack. In the words of Samuel Jackson. When ever some one asks me about HD-dvd ill say:"yes i know what it is and i hope they all burn in hell" lol

06-28-2007, 04:49 AM	#9
GasCat Special Member Member since:Jan 2007 Blu-ray reviews:1	You don't even want to get into an argument with them. They have lost their sense of reality. HD-DVD'er: "Spiderman can kick Superman's butt." Blu-Ray'er: "...ok..." HD-DVD'er: "You got a problem with that?" Blu-Ray'er: "umm, ya...uh..excuse me."

06-28-2007, 05:49 AM	#12
Dave Expert Member Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Somewhere	This is so cool

06-28-2007, 05:53 AM	#13
baccusboy Banned Member since:Feb 2007 Location:South Korea Blu-ray reviews:3	The only way I see HD-DVD pulling this out is: 1. If they start selling their movies for half the price of BR disks (fat chance). 2. BR owners suddenly wake up to disk rot on more than just a few of their titles -- scaring people away. 3. Toshiba starts giving away one free ticket to Pattaya, Thailand, with any HD-DVD purchase.

06-28-2007, 01:34 PM	#14
Curumo Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Croatia, Europe Blu-ray reviews:7	yes, holliday season is reasonable date of finishig hd dvd crazy cow, and of course pc/mac segment is very, very important (for example, pc users enjoy upscaling of sdvds for a a long long time... i am pretty sure pc will have soon some advantage even with a BDs comparing to standalones)... but i don't understand why everybody forget the biggest thing of all: people, there's a bd player that plays a lot more than movies... it is, or better to say, it will soon be a kind of real personal computer... games that are gonna be played on it will look incredible by today's standards, it is fastest, has one of the best pictures, it is completely future proof, it is the cheapest choice, hardware is monstruos compared to anything else on the market... it is ps3, with the power yet to be unleashed... what hd dvd machine can compare to that, even it is given for free? even more, death of hddvd means almost immediately the death of xbox360 unless MS make a BD supplement or whatever... nevertheless, good point, it is nat a war, it is massacre...

06-28-2007, 02:12 PM	#15
CJ P Active Member Member since:Jun 2007	Typically in format wars what happens is there is a neck and neck period and then one side gets a toehold. When the toehold is big enough that consumers SEE they have a toehold, then it just explodes. I think BD is either already at that point or quickly approaching it. THAT is why I bought a PS3.

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