Amadeus re-release? - Blu-ray Forum

PoorSignal · 08-12-2009, 05:06 PM

Why are they coming out with another edition in September?
I heard this new one you can choose theatretical version and the director's cut which some feel is too long. is that the only difference?

Do you enjoy the music in this movie, I heard it sound really good in 5.1

benricci · 08-12-2009, 05:06 PM

It's just a re-release in a standard blu-ray case, not a digibook. It also removes the CD sampler and digital copy.

Rhylliam · 08-12-2009, 10:56 PM

I'm thinking of maybe getting the digibook while its still available. The case looked nice IMO.

SillyMammo · 08-12-2009, 11:20 PM

I really like the digibook version of Amadeus. I guess I'm in the minority with liking digibooks.

PoorSignal · 08-12-2009, 11:40 PM

What I understand is with the current Blu Ray release you only have director's cut.. the new one might have both versions. Can anyone confirm? I don't care about the digibook or not.. it's all good.

In this movie, many people feel the director's cut drag a little too long.

steve_dave · 08-12-2009, 11:47 PM

Its just the same Blu-ray Disc available now but without the premium Digibook packaging, CD, and digital copy.

Sorry, but you are hoping for something that is not happening.

FindYourWay · 08-13-2009, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Sooner_Blu

Another good movie in the same genre is Immortal Beloved, which is about another classical composer, Ludwig van Beethovan (played by Gary Oldman).

It is very good, but not a historical account of Beethoven's life by any means. The movie tries to explore the mystery of who exactly was Beethoven's "Immortal Beloved", which is all fiction.

Mr.White · 08-13-2009, 12:06 AM

Is there anybody here that actually likes the theatrical version more than the director's cut?

Ernest Rister · 08-13-2009, 12:23 AM

The director himself. In the commentary track on the theatrical version, he rails against the very scenes inserted into the "director's cut", which appears to have been little more than a marketing gimmick.

Mr.White · 08-13-2009, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

The director himself. In the commentary track on the theatrical version, he rails against the very scenes inserted into the "director's cut", which appears to have been little more than a marketing gimmick.

There was no commentary on the theatrical version!

Ernest Rister · 08-13-2009, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.White

There was no commentary on the theatrical version!

There sure as hell was - on the Laserdisc.

Mr.White · 08-13-2009, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

There sure as hell was - on the Laserdisc.

No need to get mad Ernie!

kefrank · 08-13-2009, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SillyMammo

I guess I'm in the minority with liking digibooks.

I don't think you are. It's just that the people who dislike the digibooks are extremely vocal, so they seem more prevalent. I think most people either like the digibooks or are ambivalent toward them.

MaCruz · 08-13-2009, 01:08 AM

I got my copy from Best Buy when it was on sale for $14.99 a few months ago, and I still did not get a chance to watch it. I do however listen to the sample CD in my car.

SillyMammo · 08-13-2009, 02:30 AM

I like the director's cut alot, but many of the added scenes weren't necessary IMHO. Mostly extended scenes from the performances at the theater.

PoorSignal · 08-13-2009, 02:42 AM

What's on the music CD, how long is it?
good quality music?

Ernest Rister · 08-13-2009, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SillyMammo

I like the director's cut alot, but many of the added scenes weren't necessary IMHO. Mostly extended scenes from the performances at the theater.

There are no extended Opera performances in the Director's cut. The Director's cut adds small sub plots and bits of character business wisely cut in the first place.

SillyMammo · 08-13-2009, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

There are no extended Opera performances in the Director's cut. The Director's cut adds small sub plots and bits of character business wisely cut in the first place.

Really? I might be wrong, but it sure seemed like some of the Opera scene were extended. But to be honest, I haven't seen the theatrical version in a long time and it was on TV.

Ernest Rister · 08-13-2009, 02:25 PM

Amadeus was a seminal film for me - it was one of those films you see as a teenager that becomes a kind of personal - even spiritual - companion. Along with Jaws, Excalibur, Pinocchio, Fantasia, Empire of the Sun, The Last Temptation of Christ, Aliens, The Exorcist, and a few others, Amadeus was a film of endless fascination, and a film I studied and memorized.

The opera scenes aren't extended - some behind the stage moments were extended (Mozart and Katarina after the premiere of The Abduction, for instance), and there are some subplots restored (the odious "Salieri v. Constanze" being the most notable). The whole thing was a marketing gimmick. If you have the LD, you already know the director was fiercely crtiical of the scenes that were cut, while Sir Peter fumed about their exclusion. The LD commentary is largely ported over onto the DVD and Blu-Ray, but they delete the tense arguments between Shaffer and Forman regarding the deletion of the Salieri/Constanze subplot, and new material is inserted. Those with astute ears will be able to hear when the old commentary is replaced by new dialog to fill in the gaps. The room tone and EQ of the voices changes utterly.

I can't wait to have the Theatrical cut on Blu-Ray. I'll even double dip for it. It's the true "director's cut" of the film. Like Friedkin's theatrical cut of The Exorcist, like Kevin Costner's theatrical cut of Dances With Wolves, the the original theatrical cuts represent their true vision of their respective films. Costner admitted the extended cut was a marketing gimmick, Friedkin rails so hard against the deleted scenes in The Exorcist on the DVD and LD, you have to assume he took the studio money and released "The Version You've Never Seen Before" just for the paycheck.

benricci · 08-13-2009, 02:27 PM

I actually prefer the extended cut (I hesitate to call it a director's cut), but I'm always in favor of providing the original theatrical cut as well.

Whoever is in charge of producing the new Exorcist disc at WB, are you listening?

08-12-2009, 05:06 PM	#1
PoorSignal Senior Member Member since:Jul 2009 Trading Score:24	Amadeus re-release? Why are they coming out with another edition in September? I heard this new one you can choose theatretical version and the director's cut which some feel is too long. is that the only difference? Do you enjoy the music in this movie, I heard it sound really good in 5.1

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08-12-2009, 05:06 PM	#2
benricci Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Sep 2008 Blu-ray reviews:1	It's just a re-release in a standard blu-ray case, not a digibook. It also removes the CD sampler and digital copy.

08-12-2009, 10:56 PM	#3
Rhylliam Contributor Top contributor Member since:Oct 2008 Location:Calgary, Alberta Home Theater Gallery:16 4K collection:1499 Blu-ray collection:9004 DVD collection:9438 Blu-ray reviews: 49 Trading Score:109	I'm thinking of maybe getting the digibook while its still available. The case looked nice IMO.

08-12-2009, 11:20 PM	#4
SillyMammo Expert Member Member since:Aug 2008 4K collection:426 Blu-ray collection:1086 Trading Score:2	I really like the digibook version of Amadeus. I guess I'm in the minority with liking digibooks.

08-12-2009, 11:40 PM	#5
PoorSignal Senior Member Member since:Jul 2009 Trading Score:24	What I understand is with the current Blu Ray release you only have director's cut.. the new one might have both versions. Can anyone confirm? I don't care about the digibook or not.. it's all good. In this movie, many people feel the director's cut drag a little too long.

08-12-2009, 11:47 PM	#6
steve_dave Blu-ray Duke Member since:Nov 2008 Trading Score:21	Its just the same Blu-ray Disc available now but without the premium Digibook packaging, CD, and digital copy. Sorry, but you are hoping for something that is not happening.

08-13-2009, 12:06 AM	#8
Mr.White Banned Member since:Jan 2009 Blu-ray collection:502 Blu-ray reviews:29	Is there anybody here that actually likes the theatrical version more than the director's cut?

08-13-2009, 12:23 AM	#9
Ernest Rister Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jan 2008 4K collection:100 Blu-ray collection:590 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	The director himself. In the commentary track on the theatrical version, he rails against the very scenes inserted into the "director's cut", which appears to have been little more than a marketing gimmick.

08-13-2009, 01:08 AM	#14
MaCruz Community Gaming Moderator Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Mar 2009 Location:Jacksonville, FL Home Theater Gallery:160 4K collection:104 Blu-ray collection:958 DVD collection:18 MA collection:394 Digital collection:570 iTunes collection:527 Prime collection:192 Blu-ray reviews: 23 Trading Score:139	I got my copy from Best Buy when it was on sale for $14.99 a few months ago, and I still did not get a chance to watch it. I do however listen to the sample CD in my car.

08-13-2009, 02:30 AM	#15
SillyMammo Expert Member Member since:Aug 2008 4K collection:426 Blu-ray collection:1086 Trading Score:2	I like the director's cut alot, but many of the added scenes weren't necessary IMHO. Mostly extended scenes from the performances at the theater.

08-13-2009, 02:42 AM	#16
PoorSignal Senior Member Member since:Jul 2009 Trading Score:24	What's on the music CD, how long is it? good quality music?

08-13-2009, 02:25 PM	#19
Ernest Rister Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jan 2008 4K collection:100 Blu-ray collection:590 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	Amadeus was a seminal film for me - it was one of those films you see as a teenager that becomes a kind of personal - even spiritual - companion. Along with Jaws, Excalibur, Pinocchio, Fantasia, Empire of the Sun, The Last Temptation of Christ, Aliens, The Exorcist, and a few others, Amadeus was a film of endless fascination, and a film I studied and memorized. The opera scenes aren't extended - some behind the stage moments were extended (Mozart and Katarina after the premiere of The Abduction, for instance), and there are some subplots restored (the odious "Salieri v. Constanze" being the most notable). The whole thing was a marketing gimmick. If you have the LD, you already know the director was fiercely crtiical of the scenes that were cut, while Sir Peter fumed about their exclusion. The LD commentary is largely ported over onto the DVD and Blu-Ray, but they delete the tense arguments between Shaffer and Forman regarding the deletion of the Salieri/Constanze subplot, and new material is inserted. Those with astute ears will be able to hear when the old commentary is replaced by new dialog to fill in the gaps. The room tone and EQ of the voices changes utterly. I can't wait to have the Theatrical cut on Blu-Ray. I'll even double dip for it. It's the true "director's cut" of the film. Like Friedkin's theatrical cut of The Exorcist, like Kevin Costner's theatrical cut of Dances With Wolves, the the original theatrical cuts represent their true vision of their respective films. Costner admitted the extended cut was a marketing gimmick, Friedkin rails so hard against the deleted scenes in The Exorcist on the DVD and LD, you have to assume he took the studio money and released "The Version You've Never Seen Before" just for the paycheck.

08-13-2009, 02:27 PM	#20
benricci Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Sep 2008 Blu-ray reviews:1	I actually prefer the extended cut (I hesitate to call it a director's cut), but I'm always in favor of providing the original theatrical cut as well. Whoever is in charge of producing the new Exorcist disc at WB, are you listening?

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