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Old 01-08-2009, 03:54 PM   #1
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Default ZODIAC BD AVC VS VC-1,AVC is the winner

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDRe...ac_blu-ray.htm

"Bottom line is that both editions are strong but the Paramount's MPEG4 encode is the winner in image. As we will reiterate in closing this is more to validate the Paramount purchase as it is much more reasonably priced than the Japanese (or European) Warner."

Go and check it.This is why BD win the war and it is the most advantage format till now
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Go and check it.This is why BD win the war and it is the most advantage format till now
uhh...let's leave out the crap comments. Both discs compared were Blu-rays and both formats supported AVC and VC1.
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uhh...let's leave out the crap comments. Both discs compared were Blu-rays and both formats supported AVC and VC1.
I'm declaring lower bitrate should never be used if it is going to destruct the image of BD.
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I don't believe the guy at DVDBeaver properly explained this, so I will give it my best shot.

These discs are all from the same master it appears. Therefore, when analyzing a 1080p screenshot of the discs from the same master you are going to see a nearly identical picture. The higher bit-rate of the Paramount domestic release allows for a greater change from one image to the next. This results in improved handling of motion and fewer motion artifacts that would present themselves in a more heavily compressed disc. This means that a still-image, like those presented, would not provide an accurate description of the improved picture quality of the higher bit-rate disc.
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These discs are all from the same master it appears. Therefore, when analyzing a 1080p screenshot of the discs from the same master you are going to see a nearly identical picture. The higher bit-rate of the Paramount domestic release allows for a greater change from one image to the next. This results in improved handling of motion and fewer motion artifacts that would present themselves in a more heavily compressed disc. This means that a still-image, like those presented, would not provide an accurate description of the improved picture quality of the higher bit-rate disc.
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Old 01-08-2009, 04:18 PM   #7
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I think someone else posted the review under the official ZODIAC thread yesterday.
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I'm declaring lower bitrate should never be used if it is going to destruct the image of BD.
But you posted a link to two discs that were both blu-rays.
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Isn't Paramount is using the same AVC encode that they used on the HD DVD of Zodiac which was released a year ago? The HD DVD was also AVC: http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/841/zodiac.html

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Old 01-08-2009, 08:03 PM   #10
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No, they're all new encodes
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"Bottom line is that both editions are strong but the Paramount's MPEG4 encode is the winner in image. As we will reiterate in closing this is more to validate the Paramount purchase as it is much more reasonably priced than the Japanese (or European) Warner."

Go and check it.This is why BD win the war and it is the most advantage format till now
Sigh...

I'm happy that the war is over and the format with bigger space and more potential to grown won, but if all we get from double the bit-rate and extras being on another disc is a barely perceptible difference than Im not sure I would say this is the reason BD won.

Still, glad to see Paramount took advantage of the space on Blu instead of just porting over the HD DVD version or Japan version on Blu.
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Sigh...

I'm happy that the war is over and the format with bigger space and more potential to grown won, but if all we get from double the bit-rate and extras being on another disc is a barely perceptible difference than Im not sure I would say this is the reason BD won.

Still, glad to see Paramount took advantage of the space on Blu instead of just porting over the HD DVD version or Japan version on Blu.
This is exactly my thought about BD,Give me always the potential technical achievement a BD can attend.
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