If a HDTV was to support anything higher than 1080p...

[Carador]

Let's assume they will start releasing HDTV's in a higher resolution (let's say 2180p) does this mean our current Blu-Rays will become obsolete? Or will Blu-Rays be updateable to 2180p by a System Update or such?

[MovieHermit]

It might "upscale" Blu Rays, just like Blu Ray players upscale DVD's.

[42041]

Why don't you worry about it when that's even close to a viable product

[J6P]

They wouldn't become obsolete, no. But they will only ever have 1080 lines of information on them.

Just like upscaling DVDs -- you can make an approximation of what additional picture info might look like, sort of, but nothing short of a new format (like Blu-ray is to DVD) will truly show more detail.

[kpkelley]

Originally Posted by 42041

Why don't you worry about it when that's even close to a viable product

One's already been announced...https://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=3469

[genkifd]

their have been higher resolutions for some time now 4k2k and Ultra HD which is even higher... available to japan.....

[JamesKurtovich]

Not obsolete, no. Blu-ray just won't be the *best* thing for that... A new format will. I'm sure it'll make SD look much worse than it already does.

[dereksworl]

Not sure why people think Blu will be out when 2160 hits. If the format follows through with the quad-layer disc, wont that be enough to accomodate a full length movie in 2160p?

[Sponge-worthy]

Originally Posted by dereksworl

Not sure why people think Blu will be out when 2160 hits. If the format follows through with the quad-layer disc, wont that be enough to accomodate a full length movie in 2160p?

Maybe...but I don't think my eyesight is that good anyway.

[kpkelley]

Originally Posted by ryan69969

Maybe...but I don't think my eyesight is that good anyway.

My hearing isn't good enough to hear the full range of frequencies covered by HD audio codecs, but I can hear a difference even when compared to the supposedly comparable DD+ and DTS HD HR.

[Afrobean]

Originally Posted by JamesKurtovich

Not obsolete, no. Blu-ray just won't be the *best* thing for that... A new format will. I'm sure it'll make SD look much worse than it already does.

No, because 1080p already pushes the limits of visibly resolved detail at common sizes and viewing distances.

Higher resolution won't actually make the picture appear any better for most of us. My screen is "only" 42 inches. It'd probably need to be about twice the size and I'd need to sit just as close as I do now to resolve the difference.

But even with that said, modern films are mastered at 2K. If they can transition to 4K mastering standard, great, but movies for the past decade have almost all been created at 2K. You can't just "rescan" them and get 4K. Older films, yes, a rescan at 4K would work and resolve additional details (assuming your screen and viewing distance is adequate).

Frankly though, software for "QuadHD" screens will never be anything more than niche if it ever happens and there's nothing I've heard of yet that may do it. Technically speaking, I bet they could probably make special 4K-spec BDs, but still nothing of the sort is on the horizon. They're making TVs with resolutions that no media can display. Why? To pull the wool over the eyes of customers with more money than common sense. What good is a 4K TV when there is nothing 4K to watch on it and 4K will look exactly the same as 2K (i.e., 1080p)?

[Sponge-worthy]

Originally Posted by kpkelley

My hearing isn't good enough to hear the full range of frequencies covered by HD audio codecs, but I can hear a difference even when compared to the supposedly comparable DD+ and DTS HD HR.

Sure, you don't need the ears of bat to enjoy HD audio, nor does one need the eyes of a hawk to enjoy HD video. What I am saying is, beyond 1080, there is for me--and probably a lot of other people--a real law of diminishing returns at work.

There are still a TON of consumers out there who do not appreciably care too much about the disparity between SD and HD (DVDs were a boon because you didn't need to rewind and fast-forward them, and the difference in picture quality was incredibly striking). There will be even fewer who will appreciably care about a move from 1080 to 4160...to the point where it will not be commercially viable to mass-produce such gear (let alone software) for the home market as the new technologies will offer no practical improvement to consumers--often because their eyes/ears aren't that good anyway, or they will just never be 'philed'-up enough to demand the incremental performance increase.

Should something like 4160 be tied to an evolution in 3D applications, then maybe...

Edit: what Afrobean said.

[Sonny]

One day HDTV's will have native resolutions double/triple that of 1080p, but the will probably be used for special apps only, and then 50" HDTV's which will be a waste if you ask me... 1080p should become the norm for years to come,IMO.

[Owen Lol]

2160p Tv, but that's gonna be Godly expensive.

[dushuai]

1080p is the limit of human`s eye vision resolution,this is called from scientist.
So there is no need to do above 1080p.

[[1080-p]]

Originally Posted by Carador

Let's assume they will start releasing HDTV's in a higher resolution (let's say 2180p) does this mean our current Blu-Rays will become obsolete? Or will Blu-Rays be updateable to 2180p by a System Update or such?

well some players can upconvert to 1080p then why not 2180p

found this about quadhd oled
http://www.homecinemachoice.com/blog...+2013+10+09+09

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardwar...-840-x-2-160/1

to me why not have a http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_36058.html videocard in a hdtv The NVIDIA Quadro Plex VCS enables our customers to support the latest ultra high-resolution video panels with resolutions up to 3840 x 2160,


http://www.nvidia.com/content/nvisio...08-8MP_HDR.pdf


beyond 1080p upscaling http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.co/...2mb-barata-_JM

[Jeremy1983]

Originally Posted by dushuai

1080p is the limit of human`s eye vision resolution,this is called from scientist.
So there is no need to do above 1080p.

I promise you that I'd see the difference between 1080p and 4k+ when sitting 12' away from my 109" front-screen projector set-up.

[Propellarhead9]

a picture so clean that your head would explode. Or the cartoon senario where we walk into the screen because we think its really a door because the picture is so clear.

[Blu-Malibu2009]

Originally Posted by dereksworl

Not sure why people think Blu will be out when 2160 hits. If the format follows through with the quad-layer disc, wont that be enough to accomodate a full length movie in 2160p?

Just because a disc can hold a certain amount of data doesn't mean the format can support a certain resolution. Every player would have to either be thrown out and replaced or receive a significant firmware update. The issue isn't just disc size but bitrate capacity and the ability of the player to handle both the resolution and the bitrate. Blu-ray's max video bitrate is 40 Mbps. I'm not certain on this, but I doubt VC-1 or AVC can fully resolve 4k resolution at 40 Mbps. Either those codecs will need to be improved drastically or a new codec will need to be developed, a codec that would likely not conform to the Blu-ray standard. And like I mentioned before, the players themselves would have to be able to play the discs at such a high resolution. That means either the chips would have to be replaced or a significant (impossible?) firmware update would have to happen. I'm sure the PS3 could play 4k stuff with a firmware update, but I would imagine it would be pretty much impossible for standalone players...kinda like trying to play a HD Quicktime trailer on a Pentium 3 computer.

[[1080-p]]

Originally Posted by dushuai

1080p is the limit of human`s eye vision resolution,this is called from scientist.
So there is no need to do above 1080p.

http://www.clarkvision.com/imagedeta...esolution.html

http://pr-canada.net/index.php?optio...8092&Itemid=61