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Old 02-01-2010, 08:45 PM   #1
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Hi blu-ray pps just popped in the dark night about an hour ago and noticed that it starts with a 1:85:1 ratio then jumps to a 2:35:1 ratio as im flicking through it does this through out the movie ne one know of this at all
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It's called IMAX footage, some of it's in there. In some parts of the movie it will switch from the native aspect ratio to the IMAX aspect ratio, it's just part of the transfer.
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Old 02-01-2010, 08:47 PM   #3
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There's a few IMAX scenes in the movie and during those scenes the ratio changes to full 16:9
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Old 02-01-2010, 08:48 PM   #4
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Hi blu-ray pps just popped in the dark night about an hour ago and noticed that it starts with a 1:85:1 ratio then jumps to a 2:35:1 ratio as im flicking through it does this through out the movie ne one know of this at all
You might also notice this in Transformers 2 (although it is less frequent). Otherwise, you needn't be concerned.
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Old 02-01-2010, 08:50 PM   #5
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cheers guys now i can watch it with out worrying
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Old 02-01-2010, 09:02 PM   #6
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Hi blu-ray pps just popped in the dark night about an hour ago and noticed that it starts with a 1:85:1 ratio then jumps to a 2:35:1 ratio as im flicking through it does this through out the movie ne one know of this at all
Its not a problem its what the director for the blu-ray wanted.

He went with full the TV screen for the I-MAX footage (I-MAX i belive is 1.44:1 so it is cropped on the blu-ray to 1.78) and went with OAR (2.35:1) on the super35 scenes.
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Old 02-01-2010, 09:05 PM   #7
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Its not a problem its what the director for the blu-ray wanted.

He went with full the TV screen for the I-MAX footage (I-MAX i belive is 1.44:1 so it is cropped on the blu-ray to 1.78) and went with OAR (2.35:1) on the super35 scenes.
Yah Its been solved and the OP said thanks already lol
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Old 02-04-2010, 01:17 AM   #8
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Hi blu-ray pps just popped in the dark night about an hour ago and noticed that it starts with a 1:85:1 ratio then jumps to a 2:35:1 ratio as im flicking through it does this through out the movie ne one know of this at all
you didn't need to ask this here, just read the ratio info on the back of the box, it tells you about it there
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Old 02-04-2010, 09:40 AM   #9
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Wow so you’re saying the film doesn’t play like it was seen in regular cinemas in scope 2.35:1 the region B switches aspect ratio? I thought this was an extras only that shows the so called IMAX thingy, yes I’m not interested in IMAX no more I could care less if the image was 200 feet high and 500 feet wide.

So I should avoid buying the Bluray region B?

I have it on region 2 DVD and the IMAX thingy is on second discs extras the film runs normally in scope.

If I wanted to see film that stretches outwards in horizontal "Brainstorm" (1983) was filmed in W/S and for all the POV shots the image expands outwards. I think this process was only used on 70mm not sure of the 35mm print, how that looked because I never saw it projected in its original form as it was rated 15 or AA can’t recall which year the new ratings came in?

The laserdisc only does it in the vertical plan and it doesn’t look right. The image should be made smaller and kept centred to middle then expand outwards.

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Old 02-04-2010, 10:53 AM   #10
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The BD kind of replicates what you saw on an IMAX theater.

If you want to see it in Scope throughout, if you have a PS3 turning the PS3's OSD might get you almost there
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Old 02-04-2010, 04:54 PM   #11
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I was fearful when I heard about the ratio switching, I thought it might ruin my enjoyment of the movie. I couldn't have been more wrong. The full screen scenes, which are used in the outdoor shots like the traffic at the bridges and the Hong Kong aerial shots, is used to brilliant effect. The switch isn't jarring at all, and if anything enhances the movie.

Don't avoid JBL4645, you'll be missing out if you do.
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I was fearful when I heard about the ratio switching, I thought it might ruin my enjoyment of the movie. I couldn't have been more wrong. The full screen scenes, which are used in the outdoor shots like the traffic at the bridges and the Hong Kong aerial shots, is used to brilliant effect. The switch isn't jarring at all, and if anything enhances the movie.

Don't avoid JBL4645, you'll be missing out if you do.
No thanks mate.

I’ll keep the region 2 DVD with its naff PAL speed-up. There is no way I’m watching The Dark Knight with the aspect ratio switching from time to time. Damn IMAX! SIGH

Again Warner Bros Epic FAIL! They don’t stop to think!

To think I was 99% close to buying this from ASDA yesterday, whew sure glad I didn’t and yes I would be aware of the IAMX thingy spoiling the film. This IMAX should stay with its 70mm science nature history films.

For IMAX to take effect in the home you need screen that can extend floor to ceiling and side to side of the room to fully expand the image otherwise it its still too small on video projector and the common home just doesn’t have the throw distance required to do this.

Plus if you tried you’ll be in the way of the projection light image due to the angle so you want be able to get near to the screen to fully appreciate it.

My video projector can only presently throw 6 feet 2 inch wide by just over 4 feet I think, its switched off at the moment. Room is front is 9 feet 7 feet 8 inches. If I knock a hole in wall I can then stick the projector in the kitchen on platform that should give me an extra 6 to 8 inches in size.

That will still be no where near to 9 feet or floor to ceiling height.

I prefer W/S and Scope and the odd IMAX film but not feature films with silly 5 or 6 minute IMAX sequences. Its like watching a dodgy film being broadcasted on TV.

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Warner Bros WIN more like.
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No thanks mate.

I’ll keep the region 2 DVD with its naff PAL speed-up. There is no way I’m watching The Dark Knight with the aspect ratio switching from time to time. Damn IMAX! SIGH

Again Warner Bros Epic FAIL! They don’t stop to think!
To be honest the aspect ratio change is hardly noticable unless you are really looking for it. Don't not buy a release cause of a couple of minutes of IMAX footage. How is it a fail? It is one of the top selling bd releases. It is far from a fail.
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To be honest the aspect ratio change is hardly noticable unless you are really looking for it. Don't not buy a release cause of a couple of minutes of IMAX footage. How is it a fail? It is one of the top selling bd releases. It is far from a fail.
totally agree, however the scene where the Joker blows up the hospital is the most noticable IMAX scene, pure blu ray perfection
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No thanks mate.
Honestly dude, you should watch it before you say its rubbish. It's one of my fave blu-rays, and the full screen IMAX bits don't ruin it at all, in fact they enhance the movie imho. I was very doubtful about it when I heard about it and was fearing the worst when I sat down to watch it for the first time, but it works really well.
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I was doubtful too when I first heard it was going to be released like this, but I'd forgotten about it after the firrst switch from the Imax footage to the normal aspect ratio as I'd been drawn in to the film by that point.

It's really not a reason you could use to stop yourself buying the blu-ray.
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Honestly dude, you should watch it before you say its rubbish. It's one of my fave blu-rays, and the full screen IMAX bits don't ruin it at all, in fact they enhance the movie imho. I was very doubtful about it when I heard about it and was fearing the worst when I sat down to watch it for the first time, but it works really well.
Well I’ll thinking about I’m not promising myself to buying it I’ll, rent it first to see this, bluray firsthand.
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Some of The Dark Knight was filmed in IMAX, a higher resolution picture, with sharper detail and clearer sound. The rest of the movie was filmed in it's normal aspect ratio, hence the black bars on the top and bottom of the screen in most scenes.
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It's not a bug on the disc. It's part of the feature, like all the others said. The director wanted the IMAX scenes retained in a form on the home release, hence the alternating aspect ratios on the BD release of the film. It helps enhance the film itself, allowing for wider views.

The only other film to use this technique, Transformers: ROTF is a uniform 2.40:1 on BD in the UK. Only the US-exclusive Big-Screen edition has the IMAX scenes.
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