Axioms or Monitor Audio Surrounds ? =)

[4x12]

I need to shop for my surrounds since I just sold my C-R1's to the same dude who purchased my Energy system.

I was originally planing on getting the Monitor Audio RSFX to match the Silver series but the price on the RSFX are insane. The cheapest I was able to find them at (new in box) was $875 after some hard negociating. So my other option was going with the BRFX at 1/2 the price. So I placed my order over the phone today for my BRFX's but I might cancel them tomorrow... The BR's go for $550 and I got them for $485 They seem decent, and at that price I can get another pair in a few months and get 7.1 system done.

But then I thought of the Axiom QS4's or QS8's. The price on these shipped are between $480 - $585 (or $410 to $524 if I go factory outlet and wait 4 weeks) and honestly, they look damn sick! The specs seem better than the BRFX's (for almost the same price)... maybe you pro's can confirm this?

So heres the million dollar question.... I know we can "cheat" a little with the back channels and don't fully need to match the series (RS series fronts and BR series back), but what about another brand all together in the back ? Would that cause an issue ? Would I hear the difference ? Also, the fact that my front stage is set at 6ohms is it ok if I grab the QS4's since these are 8ohms ? can that cause an issue or should I stick with the same Ohms all around ? in that case i'd need to grab the QS8's.

Need some input dudes...

[Big Daddy]

The surround speakers do not have to be from the same manufacturer. Even if you buy surround speakers from the same manufacturer, your sound will not necessary be the same as room acoustics play an improtant role in creating different highs and lows in every inch of the room.

For the best surround effect and the most flexible placement options, buy bipolar surround speakers. Axiom makes great bipolar surrounds, but they may be expensive. Here is a list of most bipolar surround manufacturers.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=93873

[4x12]

Originally Posted by Big Daddy

The surround speakers do not have to be from the same manufacturer. Even if you buy surround speakers from the same manufacturer, your sound will not necessary be the same as room acoustics play an improtant role in creating different highs and lows in every inch of the room.

For the best surround effect and the most flexible placement options, buy bipolar surround speakers. Axiom makes great bipolar surrounds, but they may be expensive. Here is a list of most bipolar surround manufacturers.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=93873

Thanks BD,

And what about the Ohms issue? do I need to match all around or is it safe to have the front end at 6Ohms and the surrounds at 4Ohms?

[Big Daddy]

Originally Posted by 4x12

Thanks BD,

And what about the Ohms issue? do I need to match all around or is it safe to have the front end at 6Ohms and the surrounds at 4Ohms?

As long as your receiver or amplifier can handle 4 ohm, 6 ohm, and 8 ohm speakers, the speakers in your system do not need to be impedance matched.

A great bipolar surround choice is from PSB, another outstanding Canadian speaker manufacturer. The PSB Image series S50 is on sale for $500 a pair. I own a pair and recommend them.

https://dmc-electronics.com/Default.htm

http://cgi.ebay.com/PSB-IMAGE-S50-SU...item56363c01f9

This is the PSB speakers owners thread.
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=92449

[HAMP]

Originally Posted by 4x12

I need to shop for my surrounds since I just sold my C-R1's to the same dude who purchased my Energy system.

I was originally planing on getting the Monitor Audio RSFX to match the Silver series but the price on the RSFX are insane. The cheapest I was able to find them at (new in box) was $875 after some hard negociating. So my other option was going with the BRFX at 1/2 the price. So I placed my order over the phone today for my BRFX's but I might cancel them tomorrow... The BR's go for $550 and I got them for $485 They seem decent, and at that price I can get another pair in a few months and get 7.1 system done.

But then I thought of the Axiom QS4's or QS8's. The price on these shipped are between $480 - $585 (or $410 to $524 if I go factory outlet and wait 4 weeks) and honestly, they look damn sick! The specs seem better than the BRFX's (for almost the same price)... maybe you pro's can confirm this?

So heres the million dollar question.... I know we can "cheat" a little with the back channels and don't fully need to match the series (RS series fronts and BR series back), but what about another brand all together in the back ? Would that cause an issue ? Would I hear the difference ? Also, the fact that my front stage is set at 6ohms is it ok if I grab the QS4's since these are 8ohms ? can that cause an issue or should I stick with the same Ohms all around ? in that case i'd need to grab the QS8's.

Need some input dudes...

Wow, there is a price difference up there in Canada. I did listen to the BRFX also and they were not bad at all, my store had them marked for $450 and can get for less with a package.

In my package I get the RXFX for $675..... anyways

Doing some talking I was told that there is a place online that can sell MA online, but they can't sell the new RX and they have the RSFX for $700 a pair

http://www.saturdayaudio.com/

Wierd place, they are only open for 10 1/2 hours per week, Thursday afternoon and Saturday afternoon.

[4x12]

Originally Posted by HAMP

Doing some talking I was told that there is a place online that can sell MA online, but they can't sell the new RX and they have the RSFX for $700 a pair

http://www.saturdayaudio.com/

Wierd place, they are only open for 10 1/2 hours per week, Thursday afternoon and Saturday afternoon.

Yeah I found that saturdayaudio site last week when I looking into the RS6's. Again, the only problem for me it was shipping the RS6's. I didnt feel ok with that, plus the whole thing with the 5 year warranty. But I might browse the site again for the surrounds.

But I really do like the look of the Axiom surrounds. And these are quads baby!!! lol I'd like to get some feedback from actual users who have them setup.

[HAMP]

They are an authorized dealer so the warranty is still in effect. Is that what you are talking about?

[4x12]

Originally Posted by HAMP

They are an authorized dealer so the warranty is still in effect. Is that what you are talking about?

I dont know if the warranty on US purchased items apply in Canada. Might need to look into that.

You know, I might actually go with the Axiom QS8's factory outlets... getting them at a cheaper price, free shipping but theres a 4 week wait... I think I can handle that waiting periode.

[HAMP]

Originally Posted by 4x12

I dont know if the warranty on US purchased items apply in Canada. Might need to look into that.

You know, I might actually go with the Axiom QS8's factory outlets... getting them at a cheaper price, free shipping but theres a 4 week wait... I think I can handle that waiting periode.

That sounds better, much better, I would do that instead.

[4x12]

I'm going for the Axiom's. I'm calling in the order today or tomorrow. Ill be going with the QS8's in Black. The Boston Cherry won't really match with the Walnut MA's.

[CasualKiller]

I'd take the 500 you're going to blow on Axiom and wait for the RSFX. It's worth it and you don't have to worry about the day you have 300 bucks in hand and think, jeez if I wouldn't have bought these Axioms I could afford the RSFX.....

And trust me... that day will come.

[4x12]

Originally Posted by CasualKiller

I'd take the 500 you're going to blow on Axiom and wait for the RSFX. It's worth it and you don't have to worry about the day you have 300 bucks in hand and think, jeez if I wouldn't have bought these Axioms I could afford the RSFX.....

And trust me... that day will come.

Casual, Trust me, my first choice was and still is the RSFX... but its about $1000 inc. taxes... For that price I can get a 2nd pair of Axioms (or BRFX's)and complete a 7.1!

I seriously wish I could find a pair of RSFX's at a lower price in Canada...

[GRIFMTL]

Originally Posted by Big Daddy

As long as your receiver or amplifier can handle 4 ohm, 6 ohm, and 8 ohm speakers, the speakers in your system do not need to be impedance matched.

A great bipolar surround choice is from PSB, another outstanding Canadian speaker manufacturer. The PSB Image series S50 is on sale for $500 a pair. I own a pair and recommend them.

https://dmc-electronics.com/Default.htm

http://cgi.ebay.com/PSB-IMAGE-S50-SU...item56363c01f9

This is the PSB speakers owners thread.
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=92449

Big Daddy, does it make any difference (better or worse) using full tower speakers as surrounds.

I've just ordered 2 M60's and the VP150 for my front's from Axiom's and since I have the room, I was thinking of buying 4xM50's as surrounds to complete my 7.1

I am presently using 4xF1 from Klipsch and found that it really improved the total sound compared to my previous 4 small Sony surrounds.

Am I just spending extra cash for nothing ?

[CasualKiller]

Originally Posted by 4x12

Casual, Trust me, my first choice was and still is the RSFX... but its about $1000 inc. taxes... For that price I can get a 2nd pair of Axioms (or BRFX's)and complete a 7.1!

I seriously wish I could find a pair of RSFX's at a lower price in Canada...

I'd rather build an awesome 5.1 than a half ass 7.1, but to each their own I guess.

[4x12]

Originally Posted by CasualKiller

I'd rather build an awesome 5.1 than a half ass 7.1, but to each their own I guess.

half ass ?

Ok, so i'm guessing you've tried, heard and tested the Axioms more than 10minutes before calling them shit right ?? So whats so bad about them ?

[CasualKiller]

Pretty defensive for a guy who hasn't heard them himself. I look forward to the day you realize I was right.

[SDBlu]

Originally Posted by CasualKiller

I'd rather build an awesome 5.1 than a half ass 7.1, but to each their own I guess.

First off, the QS8's are not "half ass". I have Axiom for my 5.1 and I am more than satisfied with the Audio Quality of these speakers. The build quality is excellent as well.

As far as the surrounds themselves, my QS8's were the last components to add to my system, and boy did they make a difference. They are awesome as far as surround-sound ambiance goes. They totally completed the HT experience for me.

Not to mention the excellent customer service from AXIOM Audio. They are always there to help, and stand behind their product 100%.

[4x12]

Originally Posted by CasualKiller

Pretty defensive for a guy who hasn't heard them himself. I look forward to the day you realize I was right.

Not being defensive at all... I just want to know whats the reasoning behind your comment. I for one would never call something "half ass", a more polite way of calling something "shit" in my book, when I've never heard the thing... let alone even seen one! So, if your right, you must be taking your "facts" from somewhere and i'd like to read it for myself.

And the great thing about it is if i don't like em' I ship them back for a refund minus $25 of shipping.

Where can I go wrong with this ???

[bigm]

Originally Posted by 4x12

Not being defensive at all... I just want to know whats the reasoning behind your comment. I for one would never call something "half ass", a more polite way of calling domething "shit" in my book, when I've never heard the thing... let alone even seen one! So, if your right, you must be taking your "facts" from somewhere and i'd like to read it for myself.

And the great thing about it is if i don't like em' I ship them back for a refund minus $25 of shipping.

Where can I go wrong with this ???

U can't. I myself am just about to order the qs4's. The only thing that I'm debating is whether or not to go new or from the store.

[CasualKiller]

Originally Posted by MarcosG

First off, the QS8's are not "half ass". I have Axiom for my 5.1 and I am more than satisfied with the Audio Quality of these speakers. The build quality is excellent as well.

As far as the surrounds themselves, my QS8's were the last components to add to my system, and boy did they make a difference. They are awesome as far as surround-sound ambiance goes. They totally completed the HT experience for me.

Not to mention the excellent customer service from AXIOM Audio. They are always there to help, and stand behind their product 100%.

Monitor Audio surrounds are made to go with Monitor Audio speakers. Why would you go out and put together a fine set of speakers like that then cheap out at the last minute? The speakers don't match and you cut corners it's called "half assing" it. it has nothing to do with the build quality of the Axioms so you can quit that shit right now.

I would rather save up and have everything match than some Frankenstein mish-mash of speakers. And just to be clear you are going to hear a difference especially if you play games with lots of directional and panning surround effects.