Texas Chainsaw Massacre (2003) EiV Bluray PQ/AQ?

[samdaman94]

Hey guys

Interested in getting this to go with the classic original, but as it's EiV I'm put off. Does anybody have it, and if so, how's the picture and audio?

Thanks a bunch
samdaman94

[sapphire_nick]

Do not be put off!!! Its absolutely awesome and DTS-MA too. I would take this one over the USA release!!

[Michael1989]

Originally Posted by sapphire_nick

Do not be put off!!! Its absolutely awesome and DTS-MA too. I would take this one over the USA release!!

Indeed. Definitely worth the buy .

[Sithlord75]

Originally Posted by sapphire_nick

Do not be put off!!! Its absolutely awesome and DTS-MA too. I would take this one over the USA release!!

What's the difference compared to the US release ?

I have the US version and it's a great transfer.

[blu_sharpy]

Originally Posted by Sithlord75

What's the difference compared to the US release ?

I have the US version and it's a great transfer.

UK Version : AVC Encode, 5.1 DTS-HD MA
US Version : VC-1 Encode, 5.1 Dolby TrueHD

Extras are the same.

[samdaman94]

Thanks everyone, and merry christmas

[LordCrumb]

Originally Posted by blu_sharpy

UK Version : AVC Encode, 5.1 DTS-HD MA
US Version : VC-1 Encode, 5.1 Dolby TrueHD

Extras are the same.

Lossless vs Lossless

[DVDsBlow]

Originally Posted by blu_sharpy

UK Version : AVC Encode, 5.1 DTS-HD MA
US Version : VC-1 Encode, 5.1 Dolby TrueHD

Extras are the same.

Lossless is lossless....

As far as advanced codecs codecs go, AVC vs VC-1 means jack shxt.

It is all about the master used, if the encoder used digital tweaks and/or provided reasonable bitrates or not.

[blu_sharpy]

DVDsBlow:

I'm well aware that at the end of the day, lossless is lossless and that the difference between AVC and VC-1 is minimal but that was the OP's question; what is the difference? I'm only answering the OP's question.

AVC: normally slightly higher bitrate than VC-1 if compressed properly.
DTS-HD MA: also can produce a higher bitrate, as well as having better 'base' reproduction and generally 'louder.'

[DVDsBlow]

Originally Posted by blu_sharpy

I'm well aware that at the end of the day, lossless is lossless

DTS-HD MA: also can produce a higher bitrate, as well as having better 'base' reproduction and generally 'louder.'

Sorry but you are not well aware

"LOUDER" is the key word here. The human brain perceives loader as being better and that simply isn't the case. More Base? False. lossless is well, LOSS-less... NO LOSS in "BASS"

Try turning up your receiver, once level matched it will sound the same previded you have disabled your receiver's dialnorm DRC (Dynamic Range Control) setting.

As far as the higher bitrates are concerned, this is due to DTS-MA having a higher bitrate lossy 1.5 Mbps "core"

Besides, how would a higher (lossless) bitrates be better? So it can compromise video and special features? Isn't that why linear-PCM is basically dead nowadays?

Just so you know, the US version features 5.1 DTS 1.5 Mbps and a 2.0 PCM only. No TrueHD to be found. It hardly matters with the movie shot on a shoestring budget with a limited soundstage but it sure would have been nice to have TrueHD but oh well...

Originally Posted by blu_sharpy

and that the difference between AVC and VC-1 is minimal

AVC: normally slightly higher bitrate than VC-1 if compressed properly.'

"VC-1 is capable of higher resolutions such as 2048 pixels × 1536 pixels for digital cinema, and of a maximum bit rate of 135 Mbps."

VC-1 is only limited by Blu-ray's tech specifications and the encoder if he/she decides to maximize the video bitrates.

After a certain bitrate both VC-1 and AVC start showing diminishing returns. I would say with the US version averaging 29.456 Mbps, the AVC vs VC-1 point is null and void


Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-kOgzLwBPU

[blu_sharpy]

Originally Posted by DVDsBlow

Sorry but you are not well aware

"LOUDER" is the key word here. The human brain perceives loader as being better and that simply isn't the case. More Base? False. lossless is well, LOSS-less... NO LOSS in "BASS"

Try turning up your receiver, once level matched it will sound the same previded you have disabled your receiver's dialnorm DRC (Dynamic Range Control) setting.

As far as the higher bitrates are concerned, this is due to DTS-MA having a higher bitrate lossy 1.5 Mbps "core"

Besides, how would a higher (lossless) bitrates be better? So it can compromise video and special features? Isn't that why linear-PCM is basically dead nowadays?

Just so you know, the US version features 5.1 DTS 1.5 Mbps and a 2.0 PCM only. No TrueHD to be found. It hardly matters with the movie shot on a shoestring budget with a limited soundstage but it sure would have been nice to have TrueHD but oh well.

Whats wrong with higher bitrates? Theres is plenty of space for higher bitrates on BD's and it might as well be used.
The US Version does have a TrueHD track so i'm not quite sure what release you are talking about.

[blu_sharpy]

Originally Posted by DVDsBlow

Sorry but you are not well aware

I'm not embarrassed so why are you?

[DVDsBlow]

Originally Posted by blu_sharpy

Whats wrong with higher bitrates? Theres is plenty of space for higher bitrates on BD's and it might as well be used.

There may be plenty of space on a 50GB but lets say a movie has a long runtime, has tons of HD extras, and a 24bit 5.1 (6/7ch) PCM soundtrack... could you imagine 96khz? Now space becomes limited and something has to go as far as compression is considered and it most likey will be the video. Now if the video is grainy it will require even more video bitrate to compressed properly (unless the studio turns to the dreaded DNR) for help. I would rather have audio be compressed with a lossless codec and the video bitrate upped instead of seeing blocky and/or waxy picture, get it?

It's a space saver, that is the whole point of compressing audio in a lossless or lossy format.

Not all studios are fond of second discs for HD special features if they can get away with making everything fit on one disc. That's partly why some studios went with Blu-ray instead of HD DVD.

In most cases, studios don't even come close to filling a 50GB (partly to many not caring about maximizing releases) but it HAS happened plenty of times.

Originally Posted by blu_sharpy

The US Version does have a TrueHD track so i'm not quite sure what release you are talking about.

You are right about the TrueHD, for some reason I thought we were referring to the 1974 release from Dark Sky films

I wanted to point out that Warner's encode features a video bitrate of 22 Mbps IIRC.. More video bitrate wouldn't hurt in this case but I still looks dang nice!

It still ticks me off that Warner never maximizes their releases, they always leave a ton of space left over on 50GBs...

Nevertheless, it would be interesting to see a screenshot comparison of these two releases.....

[blu_sharpy]

Yeah, I would like to see a comparison aswell