Your BDA wish list - what they could do to wipe out HD DVD

[Lord_Stewie]

hey,

what steps from the BD Group that you guys want to see happen, in order to wipe out HDDVD completely?

I for one want to see Universal swithching sides.
or, I want to see cheaper BD players on the market, with a price tag of at least 199. that alone will end the war. definitely doesn't benefit the BD group in the short run, but in the long run, it would definitely be the right decision to make...

[Blu-dock Saint]

Well of course the whole Universal thing, but things they can do right now.....more adverstising, and more catalogue releases.

[Lord_Stewie]

with fox not releasing anything since at least late april/begining of march. I want to see fox releases films soon. i know that eventually they will, but people are begining to wonder.

[shadowmoon]

Originally Posted by shadblz

hey,

what steps from the BD Group that you guys want to see happen, in order to wipe out HDDVD completely?

I for one want to see Universal swithching sides.
or, I want to see cheaper BD players on the market, with a price tag of at least 199. that alone will end the war. definitely doesn't benefit the BD group in the short run, but in the long run, it would definitely be the right decision to make...

1. Put out some more good movies, seems like some weeks we have nothing.
2. Cheaper BD players
3. TV series! To be honest, I watch those more often over and over again than movies. Replay value is HUGE
4. Educate the public! Most ppl have no clue what Blu-ray is besides its some kind of HD DVD. HD DVD (namely Toshiba) has their own TV commercials, radio ads, and online ads. BD needs to get its name to the general public, not just cater to ppl who already are in the HD market and hoping our word of mouth to get ppl to join will get the job done.

After all that, Universal and others who supports both format will/should see BD as the true winning format and that will be the end of this war

[Lord_Stewie]

one day i went to best buy, and i saw a couple looking at HDDVD films. the husband wanted purchase an HD DVD player and get Babel on HD, but the wife insisted that BD is better. then they called one of the media employee. i decided to check what he would say to them. he said "hddvd is cheaper more economic, and they deliver more than BD."HA. I decided to cut in, so I kept explaining to the couple why BD is better. Next thing I know, I felt like an employee, unfortunately having an employee showing whats better VS. a customer. They decided to hold on and wait until the format war is over. The least i did is they decided to hold on buying an HD player.

I agree consumers need to be educated!!!.

[Blu-dock Saint]

Originally Posted by shadblz

one day i went to best buy, and i saw a couple looking at HDDVD films. the husband wanted purchase an HD DVD player and get Babel on HD, but the wife insisted that BD is better. then they called one of the media employee. i decided to check what he would say to them. he said "hddvd is cheaper more economic, and they deliver more than BD."HA. I decided to cut in, so I kept explaining to the couple why BD is better. Next thing I know, I felt like an employee, unfortunately having an employee showing whats better VS. a customer. They decided to hold on and wait until the format war is over. The least i did is they decided to hold on buying an HD player.

I agree consumers need to be educated!!!.

Consumers? I think they need to fire every best buy employee who isnt educated in new technology, I dont care if they point out the good things about hd dvd, but as soon as they start distorting facts they should be let go, such as my best buy employee trying to tell me disney was hd dvd exclusive.

[WriteSimply]

Steps till the end of 2007.

1) The studios and the CEs launch a major PR campaign announcing they are working together in support of BD.

2) The CEs announce Profile 1.1 and BD-Live Players. Also announces lower-priced BD-ROM/BD burner drives.

3) The studios announce more movies coming out, including from this summer's blockbuster roster. These movies will also be the first to use the features of Profile 1.1 and BD-Live.

4) Sony Computer Entertainment announce firmware 2.0, complete with Profile BD-Live and DTS HDMA decoding support.

5) Studios release Profile 1.1/BD-Live discs.

6) CEs release Profile 1.1/BD-Live players. Also releases BD-ROM/BD-Burner drives.

7) SCE announces more PS3 bundles in preparation for the holidays.

8) CEs announce BD-enabled DVR devices with 6x write.


fuad

[ForceMd]

I want to see them finish the blu-ray spec already. As far as I can tell, this is the reason that Fox (and other studios) are not fully supporting blu-ray now. They are waiting for the final spec to be complete. This is hurting the format. The only thing that is saving it is the fact that many knowledgeable people (myself included) who want to invest into blu-ray, but do not want to buy a player that will be obsolete in a year due to lack of full support, can buy a (presumably upgradeable) PS3.

edit: I have never used a stand alone blu-ray player (only the PS3), but what I have read here and elsewhere about playback of some titles on these units (i.e. 2+ minute start times for the Pirates movies), is UNACCEPTABLE to me. I would expect AT LEAST the performance of a DVD player, as I am sure most consumers would expect. I am glad my first (and only) experience with blu-ray movies was with the PS3, otherwise I would have been disappointed (in spite of the superior picture and sound quality).

[cdot2four]

Hell yeah shadowmoon im down with you on the tv shows coming out.

Simpsons (damn fox)

Friends. if they came out with a box set tomorrow i would buy that no matter what price.

Sopranos

[whippersnapper]

Clone PaidGeek.

[buckshot]

I would like to see them at least do something about all the missinformation the hddvd group keeps putting out. I mean come on. bd is acting like the kid on the playground that gets beat up and just lays there. they need to pick up the preverbial rock and bash one of those idiotic press releases upside the head (wow that's a little violent) how about a press release stating that the ps3 is a blu ray player and that has helped the disc sales far exceed that of hd dvd. how about pointing out hd dvds technical short comings. or that it has almost no copy protection. or that only 1 major studio is exclusive to them because of these shortcomings. if you bash a bullys head with the rock all the other kids see it and you're a hero. and the bully doesn't mess with you anymore, they learn their lesson.

[patrick99]

Originally Posted by buckshot

I would like to see them at least do something about all the missinformation the hddvd group keeps putting out. I mean come on. bd is acting like the kid on the playground that gets beat up and just lays there. they need to pick up the preverbial rock and bash one of those idiotic press releases upside the head (wow that's a little violent) how about a press release stating that the ps3 is a blu ray player and that has helped the disc sales far exceed that of hd dvd. how about pointing out hd dvds technical short comings. or that it has almost no copy protection. or that only 1 major studio is exclusive to them because of these shortcomings. if you bash a bullys head with the rock all the other kids see it and you're a hero. and the bully doesn't mess with you anymore, they learn their lesson.

I am very surprised that we have not yet seen a press release responding to the HD DVD PRG press release from last week. Wasn't there a fairly speedy response to the similar earlier HD DVD PRG release on European sales?

[Azumi]

1 - More consistency. The BDA should explain in clear terms which of the existing players can handle hi-res audio formats through an update, and when. Tell us if the PS3 can become a 1.1 profile and BD Live compliant player. No half answers please, be more transparent.

2 - Do a better job to educate consumers. When I read that somebody didn't buy a Blu-ray player because they didn't think that it was a high-def format, there's a problem somewhere. And if the BDA can't explain it in very simple terms, ask Apple to do it.

3 - Do a better job to explain to consumers that, if Disney and Fox are BD exclusive, it means that they won't be able to get their films on HD DVD. The BD-exclusive Studios must also reaffirm in no uncertain terms that yes, they're exclusive to Blu-ray and that's it.

4 - Some people consider that Sony and the BDA are arrogant. Whether there's some truth in it or not, it's beside the point. The BDA must be more down-to-earth and show more humility.

5 - Do not engage in a stupid press release war with the HD DVD Commitee. Just give consumers the actual figures and let them do the math.

6 - Non-US customers should also benefit of promotional offers in their territories.

7 - Some early enthusiasts are put off by region coding. Try to avoid it in as many titles as you can, or make sure that the BD international releases are almost simultaneous.

8 - Put more money in your marketing campaigns. More Blu-ray exposure on print and TV ads and at the POS.

9 - Pay attention to what the people in the Blu-ray and similar forums are saying.

[Blu Tiger]

I think they need to do a finishing move on HD DVD, like freeze them and then uppercut their head off.....FATALITLY!!!

[buckshot]

Originally Posted by Blu Tiger

I think they need to do a finishing move on HD DVD, like freeze them and then uppercut their head off.....FATALITLY!!!

it should have been a FLAWLESS VICTORY! but bda has been draggin their feet.

[MasterXeus]

i agree with everything that's been said.

I would like to see FOX start releasing Blu-ray movies again and start releasing TV shows.

[donricouga]

Fox needs to release more than 0 a month. Disney needs to release some big titles, like their pixar movies. Drop the players another $100

[RangerSix]

1. Finalize the BD spec! I’m not sure what the problem is, but IMO this is the lynch pin that is holding BD back.

2. CE manufacturers more aggressive in introducing players into the market. BD has the majority of the CE powerhouses (Sony, Samsung, Pioneer, Panasonic, Philips, LG, Mitsubishi, Sharp and hopefully Denon) and yet most are passive in putting up a serious challenge against what I consider is a junior varsity DVD manufacturer?

3. CE manufacturers pricing competitive with HDDVD. In addition to introducing more BD players into the market, prices MUST come down. The main advantage HDDVD has over BD is cheaper players. Every BD player currently on the market is still 3 to 4 times higher in price than most consumers are willing to pay. The CE industry reluctance to obliterate Toshiba quickly may hurt BD in the long run if Toshiba is allowed to gain a sizeable foothold with consumers. Let’s face it, most of the fanatics, like those found on AVS, bought into HDDVD, not because of specs, but because the players were cheaper.

4. BD studios aggressive in releasing movies. Content is king and the BD studios could clean house if it seriously wanted to.

BD has a royal straight flush to HDDVDs one pair; it’s time to raise the bet.

[WickyWoo]

They can never be competitive with HD DVD because they don't see a benefit in losing $100 a player

SImply wait till the contracts expire and the rest will take care of itself, judging by what different reps have told me from companies that haven't gone highdef, they're all looking Blu

[RangerSix]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

They can never be competitive with HD DVD because they don't see a benefit in losing $100 a player

SImply wait till the contracts expire and the rest will take care of itself, judging by what different reps have told me from companies that haven't gone highdef, they're all looking Blu

I hope you are right WickyWoo. Toshiba is placing all its hopes on selling enough players to consumers that CE manufacturers and studio will have no choice but to support the format.

What do you mean by contracts expiring and the rest taking care of itself?