Samsung 2 new BLU-RAY players and one combo link

[HDTV1080P]

Samsung Unveils Duo HD Deck BD-UP5000 at a list price of $1,049. The BD-P1400 will be $549 and the BD-P2400 will be $649. List prices and features subject to change before launch.
http://www.twice.com/article/CA6462973.html

[monkyman]

Two of the players are cool, but they need to dump the combo player. Even if it is a great machine, they won't sell well.

[mshulman]

Originally Posted by monkyman

Two of the players are cool, but they need to dump the combo player. Even if it is a great machine, they won't sell well.

It will sell to some people. And it just leads to lower prices moving forward. Eventually, we'll all have $100 dual format players.

[Blu-Light]

Drop the dual format players. It's bad for the consumer and it's bad for the future of hidef disc in general. It's time for Hd-DUD to go.

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by monkyman

Two of the players are cool, but they need to dump the combo player. Even if it is a great machine, they won't sell well.

Funny enough, Toshiba might have accidently created a market. It might sell to a decent number of those 180K HD DVD owners who bought too early, or didn't think things through.

They will want to play the HD DVD they have. And unless they are comfortable with multiple disc players, a combo player is the route.

But, they shall pay for their lack of vision.

Gary

[jcdDigix]

I am not feeling Samsung at all. They are about to loose a customer in the Blu camp as well.

[monkyman]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

Funny enough, Toshiba might have accidently created a market. It might sell to a decent number of those 180K HD DVD owners who bought too early, or didn't think things through.

They will want to play the HD DVD they have. And unless they are comfortable with multiple disc players, a combo player is the route.

But, they shall pay for their lack of vision.

Gary

They may want to re-buy the movies in blu, rather than spend over a grand on a combo player!

[baccusboy]

Is there a 2nd thread on this?

Where'd my post about the 1400 not having DVD Upscaling go?

The 1400 is a step backwards, in my opinion.

[richteer]

Originally Posted by Blu-Light

Drop the dual format players. It's bad for the consumer and it's bad for the future of hidef disc in general. It's time for Hd-DUD to go.

I couldn't have said it better!

[Blu As Hell]

A thousand dollar combo player....and what is the point of that?

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by baccusboy

Is there a 2nd thread on this?

Where'd my post about the 1400 not having DVD Upscaling go?

The 1400 is a step backwards, in my opinion.

The 1400 is also a price reduction.

Does it not have upscaling, or is it doing it some other way than the higher-end chip?

Gary

[baccusboy]

The press release on this website states that the 1400 lacks DVD upscaling capability. The 1200 had it. The new 1400 doesn't.

The BD-P2400 and BD-UP5000 feature the Silcon Optix HQV processor which does an excellent job upconverting DVD content (currently, the BD-P1200 has this processor, but its replacement, the BD-P1400, will not).

https://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=345

[LeoneFan]

Originally Posted by mshulman

It will sell to some people. And it just leads to lower prices moving forward. Eventually, we'll all have $100 dual format players.

By the time manufacturers are able to produce a cheap enough dual player which they could realistically to sell for $100, HDDVD will be long gone and forgotten.

[JonasK]

Originally Posted by baccusboy

The press release on this website states that the 1400 lacks DVD upscaling capability. The 1200 had it. The new 1400 doesn't.

https://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=345

No, the press release says that the 1200 uses the Silcon Optix HQV processor for upscaling, and that the 1400 will not use the Silcon Optix HQV processor for upscaling. Logically, you can't conclude from this that the 1400 will not upscale at all. It might e.g. upscale using a simplier processor.

[RUR]

Here's a clue that some or all of the upcoming Sammy's will be 1.1 compliant: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...3&page=1&pp=30

Fox is demo-ing 1.1 features on a Samsung player and the most logical conclusion I can come up with is that it's one of the soon-to-be-released models.

[baccusboy]

Originally Posted by JonasK

No, the press release says that the 1200 uses the Silcon Optix HQV processor for upscaling, and that the 1400 will not use the Silcon Optix HQV processor for upscaling. Logically, you can't conclude from this that the 1400 will not upscale at all. It might e.g. upscale using a simplier processor.

Logically, one could easily see where it might do a very poor job of it.

A poor job of upscaling is as worthless as no upscaling at all.

[Shin-Ra]

Other players do a great job upscaling (certainly not a 'poor job') and don't use the Silcon Optix HQV processor, right?

[NoQuestion]

I will be udgrading to the samsung 2400 player($649 one) but is this player going to have an ethernet port? I heard they passed new standards for the players to include an ethernet port and built in memory... so are these players going to have them?

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by NoQuestion

I will be udgrading to the samsung 2400 player($649 one) but is this player going to have an ethernet port? I heard they passed new standards for the players to include an ethernet port and built in memory... so are these players going to have them?

Profile 2.0 (BD-Live) players must have an Ethernet port. Until then they might not add it.

For one thing, if they did add a port and then for whatever reason the player wasn't able to be upgraded for BD-Live, then consumers would say they were tricked into believing it would be BD-Live compatible because of the port.

Gary

[RUR]

PC World update on the three new Samsungs. The HD DVD references are to the 5000 dual-format. Hard to fathom what the folks at Samsung are thinking since this can only hurt sales when compliant players are released by other CE's shortly thereafter.

"And, sadly, you won't get support for the forthcoming update to Blu-ray's minimum player specs that go into effect October 31. Those specs delineate requirements for in-unit storage (256MB for those keeping score), picture-in-picture via a secondary audio and video decode, and ethernet-enabled interactivity. Samsung's own initial press release, distributed earlier today, noted the player will have local storage and picture-in-picture--however, it did not specify that those features would be strictly for HD DVD discs (the company has since updated their info). Later in the day I met with Samsung's Maria Colon, marketing manager, and Reid Sullivan, vice president of marketing; they clarified that the BD-UP5000's storage and picture-in-picture would only work or HD DVD discs, not Blu-ray Discs. Sullivan also said that Samsung would not have a Blu-ray player with the updated specs until 2008.

Samsung is checking to see whether support for the new Blu-ray specs might be viable through a future firmware update. My guess is the necessary guts to do so may not be there, but one could hope."

http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/004989.html