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Old 12-03-2009, 03:55 AM   #1
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Hey guys,just a quick question, a friend of mine asked me if I knew anyone interested in a Rotel pre pro model # Rsp-1098 would there be any reason a HT buff would be interested in this processor considering it doesn't accept DTS and the likes? Just curious.
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Hey guys,just a quick question, a friend of mine asked me if I knew anyone interested in a Rotel pre pro model # Rsp-1098 would there be any reason a HT buff would be interested in this processor considering it doesn't accept DTS and the likes? Just curious.
Many HT buffs like two-channel music and also own LP's.
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Old 12-03-2009, 04:00 AM   #3
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So basically it would just be for music?
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So basically it would just be for music?
Yes, I have an HT room full of speakers and amplifiers. I also have a two-channel room with a 2-channel preamp, a 2-channel amplifier, two speakers, and a subwoofer.
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Old 12-03-2009, 04:12 AM   #5
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Thanks for the info I think I will be passing on this deal for the pre-pro I really don't listen to music much at home.
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Old 12-03-2009, 05:03 PM   #6
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Whooooa Gandytime!

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it doesn't accept DTS and the likes? Just curious.
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How do you mean that the RSP-1098 doesn't accept DTS and the likes?

The 1098 is a Home theater processor that decodes core DTS and dolby digital codecs. If you meant the hi-rez audio codecs such as DTS-HD/MA and Dolby TrueHD, then you are correct in your assessment. But it does have 7.1 analog inputs. So if your bluray player can decode the hi rez codecs (and most of blu ray players now have that ability) you can send the signal to the processor via PCM allowing you to enjoy the higher bit rate audio.

As far as video processing is concerned, most of the RSP-1098's lack HDMI inputs. The 1098's built at the end of it's production run came equipped with the HDMI inputs. With the non-HDMI (earlier) models, modification can be made at the factory to incorporate HDMI (3 in/1 out), but either way, the HDMI inputs will only accommodate the video signal for switching, not audio. The inputs stand alone in function, so there's no up-converting component video and/or composite to HDMI output. But up-converting composite to component is still in play. By the way, when HDMI is incorporated, it's at the expense of the S-Video input and output board. The HDMI input/output module is installed in the S-Video's input/output location.

Although somewhat dated, it's still very capable of producing excellent audio, but by today's standards, very basic when it comes to video switching/processing capabilities.

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Old 12-03-2009, 09:14 PM   #7
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How do you mean that the RSP-1098 doesn't accept DTS and the likes?

The 1098 is a Home theater processor that decodes core DTS and dolby digital codecs. If you meant the hi-rez audio codecs such as DTS-HD/MA and Dolby TrueHD, then you are correct in your assessment. But it does have 7.1 analog inputs. So if your bluray player can decode the hi rez codecs (and most of blu ray players now have that ability) you can send the signal to the processor via PCM allowing you to enjoy the higher bit rate audio.

As far as video processing is concerned, most of the RSP-1098's lack HDMI inputs. The 1098's built at the end of it's production run came equipped with the HDMI inputs. With the non-HDMI (earlier) models, modification can be made at the factory to incorporate HDMI (3 in/1 out), but either way, the HDMI inputs will only accommodate the video signal for switching, not audio. The inputs stand alone in function, so there's no up-converting component video and/or composite to HDMI output. But up-converting composite to component is still in play. By the way, when HDMI is incorporated, it's at the expense of the S-Video input and output board. The HDMI input/output module is installed in the S-Video's input/output location.

Although somewhat dated, it's still an capable of producing excellent audio, but by today's standards, very basic when it comes to video switching/processing capabilities.
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And many Rotel fans would prefer this over the new 15 Series. I would easily pick this up and get my Oppo upgraded to the SE version if the price was right.
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Old 12-04-2009, 12:19 AM   #8
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And many Rotel fans would prefer this over the new 15 Series. I would easily pick this up and get my Oppo upgraded to the SE version if the price was right.
Lou, I'm really debating if whether or not I should snatch one up off of eBay. Instead of shipping it back to Rotel for the HDMI retrofit, purchase the Zektor MAS7.1 HDMI/7.1 audio switcher for virtually the same money. Plus, with the MAS7.1, it would give me the ability to accommodate 2 different players (bluray and universal) that decode hi-rez audio.
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plan b: http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/srch...ng=rotel&B1=go

i have the rsp-1068 and use the 6-channel inputs for hi-rez sound. first i used the sony bdp-s550 but now the oppo bdp-83. and now
plus it was better $$$ to use the 6-channel inputs than to buy a new processor
6 cables $100 vs. new processor $2100.
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plan b: http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/srch...ng=rotel&B1=go

i have the rsp-1068 and use the 6-channel inputs for hi-rez sound. first i used the sony bdp-s550 but now the oppo bdp-83. and now
plus it was better $$$ to use the 6-channel inputs than to buy a new processor
6 cables $100 vs. new processor $2100.

So you have Rotel gear. I'm insanely jealous! Being that I'm really trying to acquire the RMB-1095 and possibly the RSP-1098!
Are you sending the video via HDMI straight to your TV or projector? Not sure of which technology you're using.
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Old 02-06-2010, 09:30 PM   #11
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dgibson76,

video via hdmi straight to the tv / audio via 6-channel in / outputs for bluray.
but for comcast cable, hdmi to tv / coaxial for audio.
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video via hdmi straight to the tv / audio via 6-channel in / outputs for bluray.
but for comcast cable, hdmi to tv / coaxial for audio.
In my setup, I am not experiencing the hi-rez audio from my bluray player. Reason being, I opted for SACD/DVD-A audio playback from my Denon DVD2910.
So the Denon occupies the multi-channel-in on the Marantz AVR. It looking like it will be a while before I acquire an HDMI equiped pre-pro or AVR, so I may just replace my current HDMI switcher for the Zektor MAS7.1 3 in 1 out HDMI/7.1 analogue switcher. That way i can get hi-rez audio from both players.

What are some of you other components and what speakers are you using?
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my set up:

60' SONY SXRD XBR2
OPPO BDP-83
ROTEL RSP-1068 PROCESSOR
ROTEL RT-02 TURNER
ROTEL RCC-1055 CD PLAYER
PARADIGM REF STUDIO 100 V2 MAINS
PARADIGM REF STUDIO CC-470 V3 CENTER
PARADIGM REF STUDIO 20 V3 SURROUNDS
PARADIGM PS 1200 SUBWOOFER
COMCAST CABLE

what's your set up?
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my set up:

60' SONY SXRD XBR2
OPPO BDP-83
ROTEL RSP-1068 PROCESSOR
ROTEL RT-02 TURNER
ROTEL RCC-1055 CD PLAYER
PARADIGM REF STUDIO 100 V2 MAINS
PARADIGM REF STUDIO CC-470 V3 CENTER
PARADIGM REF STUDIO 20 V3 SURROUNDS
PARADIGM PS 1200 SUBWOOFER
COMCAST CABLE

what's your set up?
That is a very nice ensemble. The Paradigms Refs are incredible speakers.
If you click onto my HT gallery, it will display my complete configuration.
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ldgibson76,

beautiful system. i must learn how to make my wires look like yours!!!
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Old 02-08-2010, 08:32 PM   #16
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beautiful system. i must learn how to make my wires look like yours!!!
Thank you for the compliment on my system. It's dated but it works.
Cable management is mind over matter! You have to really want to do it! It can be a tedious task, but it's worth it in the long run.
I find the biggest difficulty most have, is taking the first step. And what is that you ask? Unplugging and disconnecting the whole system. But, contrary to conventional thinking, that is the easy part and the best way to achieve the proper organization. Depending on access, and the amount of cables to contend with, it can be a daunting endeavor. Time is a big factor also. Depending on how complex your system is, it could take a hours, days, or easily a week! Check out ZIPPO, crazyBLUE and blurayas11.
They have excellent examples of proper cable management. Mine in comparison is amateur-ish at best.
Anyway, if you have any questions, I'll be more than happy to help, if I can!
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Old 02-09-2010, 12:12 AM   #17
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ldgibson76,

with the snow coming again on wed, i will begin to do this project. after completion i'll post some photos.

if you hear of any home theater shows in the area please let me know.
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