What is the criteria? - Blu-ray Forum

Carcuss · 12-11-2009, 10:57 AM

Hey folks. I just wanted to ask the general public what reason they choose a blu-ray for? Is it all about the PQ and AQ? Or is it the actual artistic quality of the film that motivates you to buy it? I admit that i have in my collection films that i may not have otherwise bought because they are on Blu-ray. Just asking: what comes first? The PQ/AQ or the overall quality of the film.
Cheers,
Carcuss.

Harry88 · 12-11-2009, 11:23 AM

Bit of both really. Sometimes and pretty crappy movie is made slighty better if the picture quality is good.

gettodamoofies · 12-11-2009, 08:00 PM

I buy generally on movie quality/enjoyment. I won't buy something on Blu-ray just to up my collection and because it has good PQ and AQ. For instance, I don't enjoy animated films (never have, even as a kid) so titles including the reference ones like "Up" just aren't in my collection and never will be. Naturally having children will mean that films like that will crop up at home eventually, but they're just not my thing and won't be in the collection because I wanted them.

As for enjoyment, sure a film that's terrible can have great PQ and AQ but I won't buy it. Having said that, I have blind bought titles on the expectation that I will enjoy them more than reviews state. One example is Wolverine. I found I enjoyed it a lot more than reviewers must have. Sure it's got it's flaws, but as usual Hugh Jackman is just damn entertaining. He's one of those actors like Johnny Depp who, even though may be working within a sub-standard film, has the ability to lift the whole production. My better than expected enjoyment of Wolverine combined with the PQ and AQ meant that I got my monies worth.

Of my collection, probably about 20% have been blind buys, but I've researched them. I won't buy a disc with average PQ or AQ unless I can justify the cost of it (ie it's cheap) and it still represents a step up from the DVD.

eBay has been pretty handy for me, as has UK shopping at CDWow, 101CD and Amazon UK. It's allowed me to blind buy some great titles at awesome prices that had I had to buy in Australia I wouldn't have purchased. Some titles I've blind bought (either because I missed in theatres even though I wanted to see them or hadn't heard of them while running theatrically) are:

3:10 to Yuma - bought for my enjoyment of Christian Bale and James Mangold (love Identity). Great PQ and AQ.
Alien vs. Predator/Aliens vs. Predator Requiem - saw the first on DVD and enjoyed it more than others. Blind bought the double pack as picked it up for $32 delivered new on eBay. PQ on first was better than some reviews let on, having owned the DVD it's definitely a major improvement. The second had great PQ and AQ, even though it's a dark film.
The Bank Job - blind bought due to Jason Statham. Great PQ and AQ.
Fast & Furious - bought because the original team was back together. Not the greatest film but still enjoyable mainly due to the actors in the film. The presentation is high quality though
Knowing - really kicked myself for missing this at theatres, but blind bought because I enjoy Alex Proyas' work, the concept sounded good and enjoy Nicolas Cage's work even though he's not the greatest actor in the world. It's one of my most satisfying blind buys with spectacular PQ and AQ.
Midnight Meat Train - missed at theatres. Vinnie Jones, chrome meat cleaver. What more could you want? Loved the film and the presentation is absolutely fantastic for a smaller budgeted film.

I've also blind bought The Mist, My Name is Bruce, Public Enemies, RocknRolla, The Strangers/Untraceable double pack and Transformers 2.

I don't regret any of my purchases. I also feel I have gotten my value for money. Let's face it, if my wife and I went to the theatre it costs $30 and there are distractions and uncomfortable seats. If I buy the Blu-ray I get a great image, great sound (both of which are not always guaranteed in a theatre due to print damage/average sound system) and I get the film to keep to watch as often as I want. If on the off chance it's a movie I end up not liking, well I can sell it and still be better off than if I went to the theatre.

Blu-ray has allowed me to have an as good or better movie experience than going to the theatre and allowed me to relive classics in the best way possible. Big Trouble in Little China, Blade Runner, Close Encounters, Star Trek TOS and The Thing are just some examples of favourites of mine that have been given a new lease of life on Blu-ray.

LordCrumb · 12-11-2009, 09:08 PM

myself, im not going to buy a movie that I don't enjoy just because it has een given a stellar transfer. Im in the same boat as 'atexp80', I cant stand those Pixar CGI films, so Im not buying them just because they always get 5/5 for PQ and AQ.

Transformers 2 is a good example.. I generally didn't like the film, there were a couple of 'cool' action scenes, but im not going to spend a lot of money to buy it just for those scenes. I'd rather just keep the 1080p teaser trailer I have on my computer.

Zyclone · 12-11-2009, 10:47 PM

im a collecter so there is nothing i won't buy i will just wait till something is ultra cheap if im not a huge fan of the film.

Moviefan1203 · 12-13-2009, 09:27 PM

I buy purely on the quality of the film. If it is worthy of being added to my Blu-ray library, then I buy it. Considering Blu-ray is the best way to watch films out there, they are a great investment. The better news is that Blu-ray is going to be the dominant format for a very very very long time, so we'll be seeing virtually everything coming out on Blu-ray. That means that everyone will be able to have the films that they like in their Blu-ray library.

Carcuss · 12-14-2009, 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moviefan1203

I buy purely on the quality of the film. If it is worthy of being added to my Blu-ray library, then I buy it. Considering Blu-ray is the best way to watch films out there, they are a great investment. The better news is that Blu-ray is going to be the dominant format for a very very very long time, so we'll be seeing virtually everything coming out on Blu-ray. That means that everyone will be able to have the films that they like in their Blu-ray library.

The one thing that has held me back from going absolutely ballistic on buying blu-ray discs is the issue of longevity. Just how long is a very very very long time? I have a huge amount of DVDs and a small but growing collection of blu-rays. Are the blu's going to last me 10 years plus? Or longer? Someone asked me what's the point of High Definition when in a few years something better will probably come out. Is there going to be such a thing as Even Higher Definition? Or is HD as good as it's going to get at least for a long time. I don't know much about this stuff. I just want to know that the BDs i buy will give me value for money over an extended peiod of time.
Cheers,
Carcuss.

LordCrumb · 12-14-2009, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carcuss

The one thing that has held me back from going absolutely ballistic on buying blu-ray discs is the issue of longevity. Just how long is a very very very long time? I have a huge amount of DVDs and a small but growing collection of blu-rays. Are the blu's going to last me 10 years plus? Or longer? Someone asked me what's the point of High Definition when in a few years something better will probably come out. Is there going to be such a thing as Even Higher Definition? Or is HD as good as it's going to get at least for a long time. I don't know much about this stuff. I just want to know that the BDs i buy will give me value for money over an extended peiod of time.
Cheers,
Carcuss.

I think I read Toshiba has already built a television capable of displaying a higher res than 1920x1080p

gettodamoofies · 12-14-2009, 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaiGusto

I think I read Toshiba has already built a television capable of displaying a higher res than 1920x1080p

I think personally think that Blu-ray will most likely be it in terms of mainstream consumer products for quite some time. There's a point where your simply won't see the difference unless you have a 100" screen and in homes that's not always doable. I think any products that have a resolution above and beyond that will no doubt inevitably come out, but I'm not sure you will be able to convince most people it's necessary. With Blu-ray, as screen sizes have increased and the prices have come down it's turning out to be a good option for many. Anything above that and people will actually have to have a dedicated home theatre room before the difference is noticed.

I think it'll mainly be for enthusiasts only, and as a result very expensive. Blu-ray's marketable due to price point now and the benefits of lossless audio and increased picture quality noticeable on a 36-40" screen depending on viewing distance. For the next product it would have a gimmick as not everybody will own a 70" screen that will show the difference from a standard viewing distance.

blu-bren · 02-24-2010, 09:13 PM

my criteria:
1: program quality including whether it can be played at 24p,

2: extra/bonus material

3: cover artwork/design

mbhwee · 02-27-2010, 02:38 PM

I will usually buy Blu-ray for films which I actually like, for me there's no point buying a film I'm not fond of simply because the PQ and AQ is great (Transformers 2 comes to mind). To be honest I haven't really bought many blu-rays simply because alot of the titles I usually already have on DVD. Of course I would like to sell off these copies then buy the Blu-Ray editions but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

Also being a fan of special features can play a role in whether or not I buy a film on Blu-ray. It's disappointing when a film is remastered for Blu-ray but don't have any of the special features present on the DVD editions. Hence one of the reasons why I'm still unsure whether to buy Misery (and a shame the US copy with all special features is region locked). Nevertheless I have high hopes my collection will grow steadily through the months and I hope that in the future some more underrated classics will get the HD upgrade!

12-11-2009, 10:57 AM	#1
Carcuss Senior Member Member since:Oct 2009 Location:Gold Coast Queensland Australia 4K collection:64 Blu-ray collection:915	What is the criteria? Hey folks. I just wanted to ask the general public what reason they choose a blu-ray for? Is it all about the PQ and AQ? Or is it the actual artistic quality of the film that motivates you to buy it? I admit that i have in my collection films that i may not have otherwise bought because they are on Blu-ray. Just asking: what comes first? The PQ/AQ or the overall quality of the film. Cheers, Carcuss.

12-11-2009, 08:00 PM	#3
gettodamoofies Moderator Top contributor Member since:Sep 2009 Location:NSW, Australia 4K collection:609 Blu-ray collection:3162 DVD collection:125 Blu-ray reviews: 26 Trading Score:91	I buy generally on movie quality/enjoyment. I won't buy something on Blu-ray just to up my collection and because it has good PQ and AQ. For instance, I don't enjoy animated films (never have, even as a kid) so titles including the reference ones like "Up" just aren't in my collection and never will be. Naturally having children will mean that films like that will crop up at home eventually, but they're just not my thing and won't be in the collection because I wanted them. As for enjoyment, sure a film that's terrible can have great PQ and AQ but I won't buy it. Having said that, I have blind bought titles on the expectation that I will enjoy them more than reviews state. One example is Wolverine. I found I enjoyed it a lot more than reviewers must have. Sure it's got it's flaws, but as usual Hugh Jackman is just damn entertaining. He's one of those actors like Johnny Depp who, even though may be working within a sub-standard film, has the ability to lift the whole production. My better than expected enjoyment of Wolverine combined with the PQ and AQ meant that I got my monies worth. Of my collection, probably about 20% have been blind buys, but I've researched them. I won't buy a disc with average PQ or AQ unless I can justify the cost of it (ie it's cheap) and it still represents a step up from the DVD. eBay has been pretty handy for me, as has UK shopping at CDWow, 101CD and Amazon UK. It's allowed me to blind buy some great titles at awesome prices that had I had to buy in Australia I wouldn't have purchased. Some titles I've blind bought (either because I missed in theatres even though I wanted to see them or hadn't heard of them while running theatrically) are: 3:10 to Yuma - bought for my enjoyment of Christian Bale and James Mangold (love Identity). Great PQ and AQ. Alien vs. Predator/Aliens vs. Predator Requiem - saw the first on DVD and enjoyed it more than others. Blind bought the double pack as picked it up for $32 delivered new on eBay. PQ on first was better than some reviews let on, having owned the DVD it's definitely a major improvement. The second had great PQ and AQ, even though it's a dark film. The Bank Job - blind bought due to Jason Statham. Great PQ and AQ. Fast & Furious - bought because the original team was back together. Not the greatest film but still enjoyable mainly due to the actors in the film. The presentation is high quality though Knowing - really kicked myself for missing this at theatres, but blind bought because I enjoy Alex Proyas' work, the concept sounded good and enjoy Nicolas Cage's work even though he's not the greatest actor in the world. It's one of my most satisfying blind buys with spectacular PQ and AQ. Midnight Meat Train - missed at theatres. Vinnie Jones, chrome meat cleaver. What more could you want? Loved the film and the presentation is absolutely fantastic for a smaller budgeted film. I've also blind bought The Mist, My Name is Bruce, Public Enemies, RocknRolla, The Strangers/Untraceable double pack and Transformers 2. I don't regret any of my purchases. I also feel I have gotten my value for money. Let's face it, if my wife and I went to the theatre it costs $30 and there are distractions and uncomfortable seats. If I buy the Blu-ray I get a great image, great sound (both of which are not always guaranteed in a theatre due to print damage/average sound system) and I get the film to keep to watch as often as I want. If on the off chance it's a movie I end up not liking, well I can sell it and still be better off than if I went to the theatre. Blu-ray has allowed me to have an as good or better movie experience than going to the theatre and allowed me to relive classics in the best way possible. Big Trouble in Little China, Blade Runner, Close Encounters, Star Trek TOS and The Thing are just some examples of favourites of mine that have been given a new lease of life on Blu-ray. Last edited by gettodamoofies; 12-11-2009 at 09:24 PM.

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12-11-2009, 11:23 AM	#2
Harry88 Senior Member Member since:Jun 2009 Home Theater Gallery:24 Blu-ray reviews: 4 Trading Score:1	Bit of both really. Sometimes and pretty crappy movie is made slighty better if the picture quality is good.

12-11-2009, 09:08 PM	#4
LordCrumb Moderator Top contributor Member since:May 2009 Location:New Zealand Home Theater Gallery:4 4K collection:405 Blu-ray collection:2924 DVD collection:109 Blu-ray reviews: 12 Trading Score:67	myself, im not going to buy a movie that I don't enjoy just because it has een given a stellar transfer. Im in the same boat as 'atexp80', I cant stand those Pixar CGI films, so Im not buying them just because they always get 5/5 for PQ and AQ. Transformers 2 is a good example.. I generally didn't like the film, there were a couple of 'cool' action scenes, but im not going to spend a lot of money to buy it just for those scenes. I'd rather just keep the 1080p teaser trailer I have on my computer.

12-11-2009, 10:47 PM	#5
Zyclone Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Somewhere over the rainbow Home Theater Gallery:3 Blu-ray collection:304	im a collecter so there is nothing i won't buy i will just wait till something is ultra cheap if im not a huge fan of the film.

12-13-2009, 09:27 PM	#6
Moviefan1203 Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Oct 2008 Location:Pennsylvania, USA Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:45	I buy purely on the quality of the film. If it is worthy of being added to my Blu-ray library, then I buy it. Considering Blu-ray is the best way to watch films out there, they are a great investment. The better news is that Blu-ray is going to be the dominant format for a very very very long time, so we'll be seeing virtually everything coming out on Blu-ray. That means that everyone will be able to have the films that they like in their Blu-ray library.

02-24-2010, 09:13 PM	#10
blu-bren Senior Member Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Australia Home Theater Gallery:39 Blu-ray collection:548 DVD collection:384 iTunes collection:43 Blu-ray reviews:8	my criteria: 1: program quality including whether it can be played at 24p, 2: extra/bonus material 3: cover artwork/design

02-27-2010, 02:38 PM	#11
mbhwee Member Member since:Jan 2010 Location:Melbourne, Australia Blu-ray collection:396	I will usually buy Blu-ray for films which I actually like, for me there's no point buying a film I'm not fond of simply because the PQ and AQ is great (Transformers 2 comes to mind). To be honest I haven't really bought many blu-rays simply because alot of the titles I usually already have on DVD. Of course I would like to sell off these copies then buy the Blu-Ray editions but I don't see that happening anytime soon. Also being a fan of special features can play a role in whether or not I buy a film on Blu-ray. It's disappointing when a film is remastered for Blu-ray but don't have any of the special features present on the DVD editions. Hence one of the reasons why I'm still unsure whether to buy Misery (and a shame the US copy with all special features is region locked). Nevertheless I have high hopes my collection will grow steadily through the months and I hope that in the future some more underrated classics will get the HD upgrade!

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