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Old 01-15-2009, 03:08 PM   #1
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http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/p...a-21-9-lcd-tv/

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Last July, we took a look at whether or not ultra widescreen HDTVs could eventually become a reality. Fast forward half a year and change, and here we have Philips answering that with a resounding "sure, why not?" The Cinema 21:9 is said to be the planet's first cinema-proportioned LCD TV, and of course, it'll also incorporate Ambilight technology around the borders. We'll be frank -- we had our doubts upon seeing the lackluster website linked below that this thing was even real, but Philips itself confirmed to us that the panel will be shipping this Spring in Germany, Belgium, the UK and France. We're also told that a full site will launch on January 29th, though no pricing details (nor a US release date) were mentioned. Our one and only wish? That this thing would've been displayed at CES last week.
I can't wait until this is released in the state side
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Old 01-15-2009, 03:14 PM   #2
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Awesome. Too bad it's an LCD.

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Old 01-15-2009, 03:15 PM   #3
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Duplicate post:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=81050

Maybe the mods can merge.
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Old 01-15-2009, 03:24 PM   #4
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To me, like today's 1.78:1 panels, you'll still have black bars on other aspect ratios. If they make a Cinemascope sized panel, your very few Cinemascope films would fit perfectly but anything else would have bars on the side unless you stretch or zoom. Since HD broadcasts are in 1.78:1, it makes the mose sense to me, to have the display or panel in that size. Sure, other aspect ratios have black bars top and bottom like 2:39:1 etc., but it's really the HD broadcasts that your panel is made for.

I look at 2.35, 2.39, 2.40 screens as a gimmick really. Even screens with masking systems are a silly expense to me. It's all psychological with some people. They hate seeing the black bars but there are about 14 different aspect ratios. There are going to be black bars or stretching/zooming no matter what you do.

The advantage though, to using an anamorphic lens in front of your present projo for 2.35 or 2.40, is that the resolution increases because of the lens. You put the projo in Letterbox mode and let the lens do the correction but other than that, to me personally, I don't really see any advantage to buying into a wider LCD or plasma panel. You guys may disagree with me but that's my view for what it's worth.
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Old 01-15-2009, 03:54 PM   #5
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https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=81050

Maybe the mods can merge.
my bad, I saw that Engadget had just posted it so I figured no one else had heard about it yet
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Old 01-15-2009, 03:55 PM   #6
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this is so weird

I very much do like the 2.35 aspect ratio, but to me them good old black bars are part of it!
They are like kind of a picture frame to me!
I just can' imagine my favorite screen format without them!

I think I wouldn't like it on such a ... um ... sort of slightly-out-of-proportion-monster
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Old 01-16-2009, 03:36 PM   #7
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Old 01-16-2009, 04:52 PM   #8
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If I remember correctly, Blu-ray is not anamorphic, so the letterboxing is part of the encoded picture, correct? So I'm not sure how this is going to work for Blu-ray too well
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Old 01-16-2009, 11:13 PM   #9
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I wouldn't buy that TV because you will then get pillerboxing for movies with ratios that are not as wide. And I would never want my movies to be cropped to fit thw wider screen.
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Old 01-16-2009, 11:20 PM   #10
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Third thread this week:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...42#post1510142

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=81050

Time for a merging.
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Old 01-17-2009, 04:03 AM   #11
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Wasn't this posted days ago from CES?
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Old 02-20-2009, 02:10 PM   #13
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Courtesy of Philips, more info here: http://www.cinematicviewingexperience.com/
Launching in Europe this spring.

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Old 02-20-2009, 02:34 PM   #14
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When they come out with a plasma version...I am getting one.
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Old 02-20-2009, 02:37 PM   #15
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But isnt most bd's 16:9 anyway? I would love to have full screen viewing again.
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Old 02-20-2009, 02:55 PM   #16
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Already posted.
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Old 02-20-2009, 03:33 PM   #17
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wasn't 16:9 voted as the standard voted on. besides tv shows are shot
16:9 wont they have to buy new cameras.
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Old 02-20-2009, 03:45 PM   #18
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I think this will just eliminate the black bars.


Traditional LCD televisions compromise on this experience by distorting the picture to fill the screen – losing the full scope of the original shot – or by displaying the picture in letterbox format with black bars at the top and bottom. Cinema 21:9 solves these issues to give the viewer an uncompromised and absorbing cinematic viewing experience, never before available in the home.

Using highly advanced formatting technology, regular 16:9 content from sources such as TV broadcasts and games consoles is also adapted to fill the 21:9 screen.- Philips

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Old 02-20-2009, 03:49 PM   #19
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Already posted.
I searched the forum for 21:9 and Philips 21:9 and didn't find anything - apologies if I've broken forum etiquette. I thought there would be some interesting debate....

I think screens like this (which I think looks very nice, btw) would create as many problems as they solve. The talk of making 16:9 material fit the 21:9 frame is probably as bad an idea as watching 4:3 material in 16:9 stretch-o-vision! And what about 4:3 material - Brief Encounter or Gone With The Wind with almost as much area to the sides as there is in the picture itself! I fear it may look just plain odd!

But then I think what would it look like with Star Wars... providing the cropping and scaling is of high quality... and I am wooed once more! I won't be in a rush to go buy one of these -- certainly not at the £3000 or more that they're talking about. I think everything just got interesting!
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Old 02-20-2009, 03:50 PM   #20
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Screw that.

Think about the big ol' pillarboxes you'd have on 16:9 material or God forbid when you watch something in 4:3.

I'll pass.
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