The Bad Movie Bible Discussion Thread

[deltatauhobbit]

So I've been reading a book called The Bad Movie Bible which covers some of the best bad movies to watch. I realized I own quite a few of these, but more importantly, I realized I want to own more of these and hope more titles become available on blu-ray.

Why is Gymkata not on blu-ray?
Why is there no US release of Hercules in New York? Hooray for Lionsgate of all companies, this has now been answered!
Does anyone else think it's crazy there's so many domestic releases of Troll 2?
How can I live knowing that Elves is not available in HD (or even DVD)?!

If you find yourself asking similar questions, then this thread is for you.



For those that keep track, here's the link to the list challenge.

We can thank these fine companies for supporting our bad movie habits:
Shout/Scream Factory - 12 titles
Warner/Warner Archive - 6 titles (let's be honest, they just have a lot of bad movies)
Vinegar Syndrome - 4 titles (surprised they don't have more but I have faith they'll do the right thing)
MGM - 3 titles
Kino - 2 titles
20th Century Fox - 2 titles
Image - 2 titles
Any company with less, it's time to step up your game!


Action

1 Gymkata - N/A
2 Miami Connection - Drafthouse
3 Do or Die - Mill Creek
4 Ninja III: The Domination - Shout Factory
5 Nick Fury: Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. - N/A
6 Taoism Drunkard [Drunken Wu Tang] - N/A
7 For Y'ur Height Only - N/A
8 Laser Mission - N/A
9 Mortal Kombat: Annihilation - Warner
10 Terror In Beverly Hills - N/A
11 Death Wish 3 - MGM
12 Fantasy Mission Force - N/A, Germany
13 Rambu - N/A
14 The Ultimate Ninja - N/A
15 Samurai Cop - Cinema Epoch
16 High Kicks - N/A
17 Challenge of the Tiger - N/A
18 Fist of the Vampire - N/A
19 Hot Potato - N/A
20 Deadly Prey - Slasher//Video
21 Death Machines - Vinegar Syndrome
22 Delta Force 2: The Colombian Connection - Kino
23 Who Killed Captain Alex? - AGFA
24 The Divine Enforcer - N/A
25 Raw Force [Kung Fu Cannibals] - Vinegar Syndrome

Science Fiction & Fantasy

26 Lady Terminator - N/A
27 Superman IV: The Quest for Peace - Warner
28 The Super Inframan - N/A, Germany, Hong Kong, Japan
29 Hell Comes to Frogtown - N/A, UK
30 The Alien Factor - Retromedia
31 Starcrash - Shout Factory
32 Battle Beyond the Stars - Shout Factory
33 Message from Space - Shout Factory
34 Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla - N/A, Japan
35 The Roller Blade Seven - N/A
36 Battlefield Earth - Mill Creek, Germany, Japan
37 R.O.T.O.R. - Shout Factory
38 Supersonic Man - N/A
39 Petey Wheatstraw - Vinegar Syndrome
40 Sorceress - Scorpion
41 Deathstalker II - Shout Factory
42 Hercules in New York - Lionsgate, Germany, Italy, Spain
43 The Pumaman - N/A
44 Future War - N/A
45 The Fantastic Four - N/A
46 Highlander II: The Quickening - Olive
47 Run Like Hell - N/A
48 The Final Sacrifice - N/A
49 Killdozer - N/A
50 Batman & Robin - Warner
51 After Last Season - N/A

Horror

52 Troll 2 - Shout Factory, 20th Century Fox, MGM
53 The Gore Gore Girls - Image, Arrow
54 Creatures from the Abyss - N/A
55 Silent Night, Deadly Night Part 2 - Shout Factory
56 The Incredible Melting Man - Shout Factory
57 Jason X - Warner
58 Black Devil Doll from Hell - N/A
59 Tales from the Quadead Zone - N/A
60 Things - N/A
61 Zaat - Film Chest
62 Death Bed: The Bed That Eats - Cult Epics
63 Science Crazed - N/A
64 The Corpse Grinders - Vinegar Syndrome
65 Crocodile 2: Death Swamp - N/A
66 Elves - N/A
67 Ax 'Em - N/A
68 Hard Rock Zombies - N/A
69 A Night to Dismember - N/A
70 Chopping Mall - Lionsgate
71 Blood Freak - N/A
72 Mad Mutilator [Ogroff: Mad Mutilator] - N/A
73 Die Hard Dracula - N/A
74 Rock 'n' Roll Nightmare - N/A
75 Psycho Cop - N/A
76 Howling II: Your Sister Is a Werewolf - Shout Factory

The Rest

77 The Room - Wiseau-Films
78 Ryan's Babe - N/A
79 A Talking Cat!?! - N/A
80 Ben & Arthur - N/A
81 Birdemic: Shock and Terror - Severin
82 The Swarm - Warner
83 The Happening - 20th Century Fox
84 Can't Stop the Music - N/A
85 Showgirls - MGM
86 Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band - Shout Factory
87 Darktown Strutters - N/A
88 Cool as Ice - N/A, Germany
89 Voyage of the Rock Aliens - N/A, Germany
90 Ape [A*P*E] - Kino
91 Shark Attack 3: Megalodon - Echo Bridge
92 Cruel Jaws - Severin
93 Empire of the Ants - Shout Factory
94 Anaconda - Mill Creek
95 Double Down - N/A
96 I Am Here....Now - N/A
97 Fateful Findings - Panorama
98 Pass-Thru - N/A
99 The Ice Pirates - Warner Archive
100 Traxx - N/A
101 Dead Heat - Image
102 Megaforce - N/A, Japan

[yellowcakeuf6]

Some of those titles struck me as hilarious: Fist of the Vampire, Hercules in New York, Hell Comes to Frogtown. LOL

[rocknblues81]

I only own three of the these.... Death Wish 3, Batman and Robin and Chopping Mall.

[Buscemi]

Fateful Findings has a BD-R release.

And some of these I'd be surprised if they ever hit Blu-ray. For example, the footage I saw from The Cinema Snob's review of A Talking Cat!?! looks bad even in SD (and I'm convinced it was in fact filmed in SD).

[RCRochester]

I've only seen 18 out of 102 movies on the list in the link.

Hercules In New York may not have a US release but I have the Italian blu-ray, it's region free and pretty great. It has the original on screen titles (i.e. no "Hercules Goes Bananas") and has Arnold's actual voice instead of the dubbed one (though I can't decide which is funnier as they're both pretty hilarious).

[Ruined]

I have all of the ones readily available in USA and some of the imports. Will consider the other imports.

If you haven't seen DEATH BED: THE BED THAT EATS that should be on the top of your list.

A couple others I will recommend:

SEXSQUATCH - 1st one is classic, nonstop low budget laughs. Available on limited BD-R and pressed DVD:
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Sexsq...lu-ray/168448/

CHRISTINA - Unintentionally hilarious throughout the whole movie, highly recommended, on Blu-ray:
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Chris...lu-ray/154701/

NEVER TOO YOUNG TO DIE - Great bizarre action movie with catchy soundtrack! On Blu.
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Never...lu-ray/171637/

PHOBE: The Xenophobic Experiments - Canadian cheese. DVD only, no BD coming:
https://www.blu-ray.com/dvd/Phobe-Th...ts-DVD/127865/

DEVIL'S EXPRESS - Too bizarre to describe, good stuff, now on Blu:
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Devil...lu-ray/189910/

BTW there is an Arrow release of Gore Gore Girls in the HGL set.

[deltatauhobbit]

Originally Posted by Buscemi

And some of these I'd be surprised if they ever hit Blu-ray. For example, the footage I saw from The Cinema Snob's review of A Talking Cat!?! looks bad even in SD (and I'm convinced it was in fact filmed in SD).

Yeah, there are plenty on this list that will likely never see the light of day and then there are others that make you wonder why they're not out yet. Apparently, Germany and Japan love bad movies just as much as us so there's hope for many more to come out even if they never get a domestic release.

I'm kind of surprised Fox never put out a blu-ray of Nick Fury: Agent of SHIELD as a way of giving the finger to the more successful MCU, also to ride on some of their success. Now that Disney is buying out Fox, it's even less likely since they'll just want to sweep it under the rug. Shame too, I actually like the Hoff in that role, definitely fills the cheese-o-meter to max capacity. We'll also never likely see the best Fantastic Four movie to date beyond the crummy VHS quality that we have available, at least there's a good documentary on it.

[Buscemi]

The Nick Fury movie was made-for-TV and was more than likely edited on video, therefore making a Blu-ray more of a hassle (heh, heh) than it's probably worth.

[El_Fez]

Okay, consider me in for the challenge! Hang on while I do the bookkeeping!

[Show spoiler]Miami Connection - Own
Ninja III: The Domination - own
Mortal Kombat: Annihilation - seen
Death Wish 3 - own
Rambu - Own
Death Machines - own
Delta Force 2: The Colombian Connection - own
Raw Force - own
Superman IV: The Quest for Peace - own
The Super Inframan - seen
Hell Comes to Frogtown - seen
Starcrash - Own twice
Battle Beyond the Stars - own
Message from Space - own
Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla - own
Battlefield Earth - Seen
R.O.T.O.R. - own, but not seen yet
Petey Wheatstraw - on the wish list
Deathstalker II - seen
Hercules in New York - seen
The Pumaman - seen (the non-MST3K version)
Future War - own
The Fantastic Four - seen
Highlander II: The Quickening - seen many, many times
Killdozer - seen
Batman & Robin - seen
Troll 2 - own
The Incredible Melting Man - own
Jason X - own
Death Bed: The Bed That Eats - seen
The Corpse Grinders - Own but not seen yet
Chopping Mall - own
The Swarm -own
Can't Stop the Music - Owned, but sold ages ago
Cool as Ice - Wait, this is out on Blu? WISHLIST!
Shark Attack 3: Megalodon - own
Megaforce - own

Some interesting choices on the list. Plus there is a TON of stuff not on there that I would have added. Where's the AIP Teenagers Getting Laid movies? Wheres the Kung Fu? Where's A*P*E*? Where's No Holds Barred?

[Al_The_Strange]

Originally Posted by deltatauhobbit

9 Mortal Kombat: Annihilation - Warner
11 Death Wish 3 - MGM
27 Superman IV: The Quest for Peace - Warner
36 Battlefield Earth - N/A, Germany, Japan
37 R.O.T.O.R. - Shout Factory
50 Batman & Robin - Warner
52 Troll 2 - Shout Factory, 20th Century Fox, MGM
53 The Gore Gore Girls - Image
56 The Incredible Melting Man - Shout Factory
57 Jason X - Warner
61 Zaat - Film Chest
77 The Room - Wiseau-Films
81 Birdemic: Shock and Terror - Severin
85 Showgirls - MGM
94 Anaconda - Mill Creek

I am a proud owner of all these, and then some. Still so much to explore it seems, I will use this list as a guide so I can view some more and broaden my horizons.

[defile959]

I've seen 21, and own 11 of them.

[dallywhitty]

I've only seen nine of the films on that list!

My favourite trashterpieces:

[deltatauhobbit]

Originally Posted by El_Fez

Some interesting choices on the list. Plus there is a TON of stuff not on there that I would have added. Where's the AIP Teenagers Getting Laid movies? Wheres the Kung Fu? Where's A*P*E*? Where's No Holds Barred?

Gotcha covered, Ape - #90 Great 3D flick, well, great 3D .

There is a dearth of teenager sex flicks, but for the most part, they're in on the joke which is why most wouldn't qualify. It also excludes films that aim to be good-bad or are tongue-in-cheek on purpose, such as Samurai Cop 2 and Flash Gordon. Plenty of martial arts films in the list even if they're not outright Kung Fu type films. I do agree that No Holds Barred is a glaring omission but I'm sure there's at least another 100 or so films we'd all consider missing from any good-bad list.

The book also only includes films from the 70's and later since films from earlier than that may seem funny and cheesy now but actually played quite serious at the time (even something as beloved as Forbidden Planet can garner chuckles now).

Decided to go through the list and see which ones I own:

[Show spoiler]
2 Miami Connection
4 Ninja III: The Domination - haven't watched it yet
20 Deadly Prey - haven't watched it yet
21 Death Machines - haven't watched it yet
22 Delta Force 2: The Colombian Connection
25 Raw Force [Kung Fu Cannibals]
27 Superman IV: The Quest for Peace
30 The Alien Factor - haven't watched it yet
31 Starcrash
32 Battle Beyond the Stars
33 Message from Space - haven't watched it yet
40 Sorceress
41 Deathstalker II
50 Batman & Robin
52 Troll 2 - haven't watched it yet
57 Jason X
70 Chopping Mall
90 Ape [A*P*E]
94 Anaconda
99 The Ice Pirates

My seen but don't own list adds to it a small bit:

[Show spoiler]
5 Nick Fury: Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. - wish it was on blu
9 Mortal Kombat: Annihilation
15 Samurai Cop - need to buy
36 Battlefield Earth
45 The Fantastic Four - wish it was on blu
46 Highlander II: The Quickening
83 The Happening
85 Showgirls - I've seen most of it... well... I've seen the parts that matter

Somehow, I still have yet to watch The Room despite its epic status. I've seen parts and I think the only way I could make it through would be to watch it as part of a midnight showing with a crowd but nothing like that has happened in my area yet, one of these days though!

[Buscemi]

Give Fateful Findings a shot. Breen's earnestness and belief of the conspiracy theories his "character" spouts off makes it one of the most unintentionally funny movies possibly ever.

In fact, it's more entertaining than most of today's vanity projects that The Playlist or some other shill site will praise.

Here's one of my favorite moments from His Breenness:

Neil Breen - No More Books - YouTube

[Jaymole]

Is there a reason the book ignores tons of older films...Is there a date cut-off?

[deltatauhobbit]

Originally Posted by Jaymole

Is there a reason the book ignores tons of older films...Is there a date cut-off?

Recently answered it above.

Originally Posted by deltatauhobbit

The book also only includes films from the 70's and later since films from earlier than that may seem funny and cheesy now but actually played quite serious at the time (even something as beloved as Forbidden Planet can garner chuckles now).

[B-52 Bass]

Yup, bad films can still be good. I saw a few a own:

Mortal Combat: Annihilation - So bad it's good
Death Wish 3
Godzilla v. Mech - Humans in monster suits, what's not to like
Fantastic Four - Sounds awesome
Kill Dozer - This made me afraid of construction trucks lol
Jason X - Whyyyyyyyy, lol
Croc: 2 - I like this because I went to film school with a chick that's in the
film. She died after plane crash lol
The Swarm - Killer bees come'on lol
The Happening - I was on the set a couple days while filming
Empire of the Ants - Bad effects, still liked it.
Anaconda - Huh, I'm shocked lol

I like a lot of bad B movies they have something these big hype films just don't have. A small fan base lol

[Jaymole]

Originally Posted by deltatauhobbit

Recently answered it above.

I completely disagree with their reasoning so I will not comment further. I would also replace some of their films with far worst films released after 1970 that they surprisingly ignored.

[mja345]

"Dead Heat"? The one with Treat Williams and Joe Piscopo? That's not a remotely bad film. I've seen like 10 films the past month that make "Dead Heat" look like "The Third Man". Also, "Petey Wheatstraw" has no business being on this list.

[edwoodjr]

I've seen 53 of these, and own 21.*

Like any best/worst lists, I could quibble with some of the choices and omissions. But in the end, these things are always an interesting peek into someone's tastes.


*Numbers based on an incredibly hasty count. Feel free to put an "-ish" by them.