Should I buy AudioQuest Gibraltar

[PaulJunior]

Hey,

The auction ends in 3 hours and the price is very attractive at about $60 for 2x2,5m right now. I currently use the Valab King cable. Will this cable surpass the Valab one?

Regards,

[naturephoto1]

Originally Posted by PaulJunior

Hey,

The auction ends in 3 hours and the price is very attractive at about $60 for 2x2,5m right now. I currently use the Valab King cable. Will this cable surpass the Valab one?

Regards,

Hi Paul,

I have never used or tried the Audioquest Gibralter speaker cables. I have used the Valab King and TimePortal speaker cables for some years and have been very happy with them. It may be worth a try. But, do not be surprised if the Valab cables are better. They will quite possibly be of higher quality and certainly heavier wire than the Audioquest.

Rich

[Intamin]

I'd save your 60 bucks and use it to buy 3 movies or some cds instead. Just my $.02

[emoxley]

Get your cables from here: http://www.monoprice.com/home/index.asp
You'll never notice a difference, except the cost.

[PaulJunior]

Thanks for your comments guys, but the retail price of those cables is over $1600... I think it's a pretty good deal at around $60-$100?

[emoxley]

If you say so............

[Intamin]

Originally Posted by PaulJunior

Thanks for your comments guys, but the retail price of those cables is over $1600... I think it's a pretty good deal at around $60-$100?

While the retail price of the cables may be over 1600, the actual cost of those cables is probably around 10 bucks. Again, save your money.

[emoxley]

Originally Posted by Intamin

While the retail price of the cables may be over 1600, the actual cost of those cables is probably around 10 bucks. Again, save your money.

Save your breath.
Once someone has convinced themselves that expensive cables are better than cheaper ones, you're not going to change their minds. The placebo effect will even make them believe they hear a difference, when they hook them up. Then they tell everyone else how much better it sounds. Just let them enjoy spending their money.........

[PaulJunior]

haha, ok guys, I didn't manage to bid before the the auction ended but I guess I should be happy that I saved my money Anyway, maybe one day I'll just rent some other cable and make a comparison. Thanks for everyones help

[Johnny Vinyl]

Originally Posted by emoxley

Save your breath.
Once someone has convinced themselves that expensive cables are better than cheaper ones, you're not going to change their minds. The placebo effect will even make them believe they hear a difference, when they hook them up. Then they tell everyone else how much better it sounds. Just let them enjoy spending their money.........

Don't beleive for one second that just because you have an opinion on this matter, that you are at all correct.

The OP asked for an opinion on these cables as he can get them for a good price. He currently uses Valab/King cables in his setup (as do I) and would like to know if it would make a difference.

He didn't ask for you to crap on his thread by spewing your opinion and making it seem like those who purchase anything but cables from Monoprice are idiots.

John

[BIslander]

John - You know that objectivists will comment whenever someone asks whether a cable that costs $1600 is worth it. Why do you always act so surprised and offended by such comments?

[Johnny Vinyl]

Originally Posted by BIslander

John - You know that objectivists will comment whenever someone asks whether a cable that costs $1600 is worth it. Why do you always act so surprised and offended by such comments?

Hi BIslander,

Because it ticks me off to be honest. Whenever a thread is started on cables/IC's/Power Cords the naysayers always crap on it and turn it into a slugfest that has nothing to do with the OP's questions or inquiries.

John

[BIslander]

Originally Posted by John72953

Because it ticks me off to be honest. Whenever a thread is started on cables/IC's/Power Cords the naysayers always crap on it and turn it into a slugfest that has nothing to do with the OP's questions or inquiries.

Sure it does. They're saying one cable is no better than another and no cable is worth the extra money.

You call it "crapping". The objectivists call it "enlightening". While I understand your frustration, I doubt that angry posts are going to discourage people from weighing in on this subject one way or the other.

[Johnny Vinyl]

Originally Posted by BIslander

Sure it does. They're saying one cable is no better than another and no cable is worth the extra money.

You call it "crapping". The objectivists call it "enlightening". While I understand your frustration, I doubt that angry posts are going to discourage people from weighing in on this subject one way or the other.

Then what should I do? Sit back and not say a word? Be a silent "lurker" on this forum and every thread about this subject?

John

[emoxley]

Originally Posted by John72953

Don't beleive for one second that just because you have an opinion on this matter, that you are at all correct.

The OP asked for an opinion on these cables as he can get them for a good price. He currently uses Valab/King cables in his setup (as do I) and would like to know if it would make a difference.

He didn't ask for you to crap on his thread by spewing your opinion and making it seem like those who purchase anything but cables from Monoprice are idiots.

John

He asked for opinion, I gave him one.
I don't care where you buy your cables, monoprice, bluejeanscable, or Radio Shack. There's just no need to buy real expensive cables. It's been proven too many times that they don't sound better. People who swore they could tell a difference, couldn't tell a difference when put to an A/B test between cheap cables and expensive ones. They just embarrassed themselves.

[FreddieFerric]

Originally Posted by John72953

Then what should I do? Sit back and not say a word? Be a silent "lurker" on this forum and every thread about this subject?

John

Well, don't give it another thought. The OP is using good Valab Kings after-all. So he's already way ahead of the game on that alone. As far as the naysayers are concerned...nayboobs!!!

[BIslander]

Originally Posted by John72953

Then what should I do? Sit back and not say a word? Be a silent "lurker" on this forum and every thread about this subject?

Since you asked... I suggest you try offering something substantive related to the question about whether cables make a difference in audio quality. By substantive, I mean something other than personal opinion.

Or, simply ignore the objectivist posts. Complaining isn't going to stop them.

[Johnny Vinyl]

Originally Posted by emoxley

He asked for opinion, I gave him one.
I don't care where you buy your cables, monoprice, bluejeanscable, or Radio Shack. There's just no need to buy real expensive cables. It's been proven too many times that they don't sound better. People who swore they could tell a difference, couldn't tell a difference when put to an A/B test between cheap cables and expensive ones. They just embarrassed themselves.

He asked for opinion on the differences between the AudioQuest Gibraltar cables versus the Valab/King cables....NOTHING ELSE. Or did you not comprehend the post?

On the matter of AB testing..if I have to buy equipment, accessories or anything else based on the result of such tests I'll give up on this hobby. I buy what pleases the only thing that matters...my ears. You don't have to agree, you don't have to like it, but you do have to have respect for it. It is obvious you had no respect for the question posed and chose instead to provide an opinion completely unrelated to the original post.

John

[emoxley]

Originally Posted by John72953

He asked for opinion on the differences between the AudioQuest Gibraltar cables versus the Valab/King cables....NOTHING ELSE. Or did you not comprehend the post?

Yes, I comprehend the post. He asked if the cable would surpass the ones he had? I said no, in my own way, without saying "NO". Basically saying no cable is going to surpass another one.

I state my opinion. I don't care if anyone believes it or not. No skin off my teeth. I have nothing to gain by lying. Usually, when a person asks for opinions like that, they're asking if they should spend the money, or save it. I told him to save it. If you tell him to spend it, he'll do whichever he's most comfortable with. I don't know the OP personally, so he can spend all his money on one cable if he wants to.

I've heard your opinion, and you've heard mine. So, now we're through with it. Or, at least I am..........

[Johnny Vinyl]

Originally Posted by BIslander

Since you asked... I suggest you try offering something substantive related to the question about whether cables make a difference in audio quality. By substantive, I mean something other than personal opinion.

Or, simply ignore the objectivist posts. Complaining isn't going to stop them.

What does substantive mean? Does it mean charts, graphs, scientific evidence? What? I can't provide those things and I'll be honest, I'm not in the least interested in trying to obtain them.

I do know this however, I listen with a very acute ear and I listen over time, not a five-minute session. It's the same way I listen to a record, a CD or any other media before making a decision on whether the recording/mastering/performance is any good. You have to live with something for an extended period to provide a sincere opinion. Tests don't allow for that.

John