Now Best Buy Canada is trying to pull a '360' on consumers. - Blu-ray Forum

sohjonn · 08-19-2007, 03:50 AM

have a look at exhibit "A"

Flyer image on lower left with price of $399 CAN; Description can be found on the left side in the middle

If i hadn't already known that the 360 didn't have an HD-dvd drive, then this advertisement would have made me think otherwise. What a great way to mislead people!

at first it didn't make any sense to me why the HD-DVD version of 300 was offered without the HD-DVD drive included in the bundle. But now it all makes sense: it's a combo disc!

This ad is very misleading: making the consumer think the 360 has an integrated HD-DVD drive. is this possible, well ~40% of ps3 owners didn't know it could play blu-ray, it seems very well likely that MS or Bestbuy can mislead people into believing the 360 has HD-DVD.

Is MS/bestbuy trying to kill hi-def? people will pop in the 'dvd' believing that it's HD-dvd watch it and say "what's the big deal, looks like a normal dvd" of course it does, because it is.

or are they trying to '360' people into buying another hd-dvd attachment and have them ask "hey what gives 300 works but my other hidef disc doesn't work?" only to be later told they have to buy the hd-dvd drive attachment to run it properly and they probably will.

That's not good/smart business; it's sneaky and concieving.

Furthermore, selling the HD-DVD 300 boosts their numbers of sales/attachment units. closing the gap b/n the blu-ray version and HD-DVD. Will it be substantial, probably not, but cheating is cheating.

just when i thought 360 owners couldn't be 360'd anymore.
first it was RROD's
-then HDMI input
-HDD required for games
-and now this
- if you didn't know already the Halo 3 Special Edition xbox doesn't come with the game!

what next HD-dvd integration, a new system, what gives.

Update: I've got the actual copy of the flyer in my hand and do you want to know what the '*' reads?

"Can be played on any DVD player"

remember the asterisks appears as (HD-DVD*)

so does that mean HD-DVD can be played on any DVD player?

BB should know that they do have SDVD version of 300 in FullScreen format and WS format.

j_rocca42 · 08-19-2007, 04:03 AM

And people blame sony for being sneaky...

Blu-dock Saint · 08-19-2007, 04:05 AM

well they will get a great wake up call when they try to play it on the hd dud side lol.

BluDrew · 08-19-2007, 06:56 AM

Maybe it was BB's booboo.

zombieking · 08-19-2007, 07:39 AM

Could be a misprint because they are supposed to have that deal with the hd-dvd add on included, but for a higher price.

docjan_uk · 08-19-2007, 09:48 AM

Dunno about you guys, but whenever I see something with an asterisk I always check the bottom of the page to see what it's referring to.

Petra_Kalbrain · 08-19-2007, 01:52 PM

This could end up working in Blu-ray's favour! Think about it. Jo Blow walks in off of the street and buys the bundle. He gets home, sets up his Xbox360 to his Hi-Def TV. Then he decides to watch his '300' HD-DVD. Well, what do you know... he is surprised at how bad his HD-DVD looks (because it's really just DVD). "Well, let me see if I can get a look at Blu-ray somewhere". He visits a local retailer (hopefully Sony Store) and sees the difference. "WOW! What a difference from HD-DVD! I'll take one of those... and those... and those... and some movies to go along with my new equipment."

In a perfect world it could happen.

Shrek · 08-19-2007, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

This could end up working in Blu-ray's favour! Think about it. Jo Blow walks in off of the street and buys the bundle. He gets home, sets up his Xbox360 to his Hi-Def TV. Then he decides to watch his '300' HD-DVD. Well, what do you know... he is surprised at how bad his HD-DVD looks (because it's really just DVD). "Well, let me see if I can get a look at Blu-ray somewhere". He visits a local retailer (hopefully Sony Store) and sees the difference. "WOW! What a difference from HD-DVD! I'll take one of those... and those... and those... and some movies to go along with my new equipment."

In a perfect world it could happen.

I like the possitive thinking

sohjonn · 08-19-2007, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by docjan_uk

Dunno about you guys, but whenever I see something with an asterisk I always check the bottom of the page to see what it's referring to.

I've got the actual copy of the flyer in my hand and do you want to know what the '*' reads?

"Can be played on any DVD player"

remember the asterisks appears as (HD-DVD*)

so does that mean HD-DVD can be played on any DVD player?

BB should know that they do have SDVD version of 300 in FullScreen format and WS format.

phranctoast · 08-19-2007, 03:14 PM

I think its a combo disc so it could be played in any dvd player.

blurayistheway · 08-19-2007, 03:17 PM

perhaps bb overstocked hd-dud and this is the best way to get rid of um. maybe people will take hd-dud if we give movies away...

stockstar1138 · 08-19-2007, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blurayistheway

perhaps bb overstocked hd-dud and this is the best way to get rid of um. maybe people will take hd-dud if we give movies away...

yep, i was there yesterday, they had about 9 copies of Batman on HD DUD, the most they had of any blu-ray was 3. Blu-ray looked picked over, hd dvd looked like it litterly hadn't been touched all day. There was two shelves of each format.....until i walked outside the aisle and there was a big four sided stand full of blu-ray in the middle of the aisle that you couldn't miss, all of this in front of two blu-ray players going on a samsung 65f series (yay!) (the bd-1200) and a sony xbr (the bdp-s300). Then way down the way they had a hd dvd player hooked up to a regza that had about a 3000:1 contrast ratio it looked like, and man it looked like absoulte sh1t. I watched aladin upscaled on a blu-ray player on a pioneer plasma, holy cow, can't wait til aladin comes to blu (in magnolia home theater). and don't forget the blu-ray that was playing at the front of the store, and panasonic had a nifty thing going to, where there was this big couch a panny hdtv and the panny blu-ray player i believe. so total was 3 blu-ray shelves: 2 hd dvd shelves, 5 blu-ray players running: 1 hd dvd player going. good news boys.

BluDrew · 08-19-2007, 07:21 PM

I just realized that the HD DVD of "300" is a combo, so buyers will get an HD DVD movie for free that they can watch right away. It might be an incentive to get the HD DVD add-on. Makes sense I guess.

sohjonn · 08-19-2007, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BluDrew

I just realized that the HD DVD of "300" is a combo, so buyers will get an HD DVD movie for free that they can watch right away. It might be an incentive to get the HD DVD add-on. Makes sense I guess.

yeah, that's what i wrote in the initial post. i thought i made it clear that it was a combo disc, but think of all the confusion involved.

08-19-2007, 03:50 AM	#1
sohjonn Active Member Member since:Aug 2007	Update: Now Best Buy Canada is trying to pull a '360' on consumers. have a look at exhibit "A" Flyer image on lower left with price of $399 CAN; Description can be found on the left side in the middle If i hadn't already known that the 360 didn't have an HD-dvd drive, then this advertisement would have made me think otherwise. What a great way to mislead people! at first it didn't make any sense to me why the HD-DVD version of 300 was offered without the HD-DVD drive included in the bundle. But now it all makes sense: it's a combo disc! This ad is very misleading: making the consumer think the 360 has an integrated HD-DVD drive. is this possible, well ~40% of ps3 owners didn't know it could play blu-ray, it seems very well likely that MS or Bestbuy can mislead people into believing the 360 has HD-DVD. Is MS/bestbuy trying to kill hi-def? people will pop in the 'dvd' believing that it's HD-dvd watch it and say "what's the big deal, looks like a normal dvd" of course it does, because it is. or are they trying to '360' people into buying another hd-dvd attachment and have them ask "hey what gives 300 works but my other hidef disc doesn't work?" only to be later told they have to buy the hd-dvd drive attachment to run it properly and they probably will. That's not good/smart business; it's sneaky and concieving. Furthermore, selling the HD-DVD 300 boosts their numbers of sales/attachment units. closing the gap b/n the blu-ray version and HD-DVD. Will it be substantial, probably not, but cheating is cheating. just when i thought 360 owners couldn't be 360'd anymore. first it was RROD's -then HDMI input -HDD required for games -and now this - if you didn't know already the Halo 3 Special Edition xbox doesn't come with the game! what next HD-dvd integration, a new system, what gives. Update: I've got the actual copy of the flyer in my hand and do you want to know what the '' reads? "Can be played on any DVD player" remember the asterisks appears as (HD-DVD) so does that mean HD-DVD can be played on any DVD player? BB should know that they do have SDVD version of 300 in FullScreen format and WS format. Last edited by sohjonn; 08-19-2007 at 03:05 PM.

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08-19-2007, 04:03 AM	#2
j_rocca42 Expert Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Recording live from somewhere Blu-ray reviews:17 Trading Score:13	And people blame sony for being sneaky...

08-19-2007, 04:05 AM	#3
Blu-dock Saint Special Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Michigan Blu-ray collection:47 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:67	well they will get a great wake up call when they try to play it on the hd dud side lol.

08-19-2007, 06:56 AM	#4
BluDrew Banned Member since:Aug 2007	Maybe it was BB's booboo.

08-19-2007, 07:39 AM	#5
zombieking Special Member Member since:May 2007 Location:CANADA Blu-ray collection:304 Blu-ray reviews: 18	Could be a misprint because they are supposed to have that deal with the hd-dvd add on included, but for a higher price.

08-19-2007, 09:48 AM	#6
docjan_uk Active Member Member since:Jun 2007 Blu-ray reviews:5	Dunno about you guys, but whenever I see something with an asterisk I always check the bottom of the page to see what it's referring to.

08-19-2007, 01:52 PM	#7
Petra_Kalbrain Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Vancouver, BC 4K collection:5 Blu-ray collection:561 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:20	This could end up working in Blu-ray's favour! Think about it. Jo Blow walks in off of the street and buys the bundle. He gets home, sets up his Xbox360 to his Hi-Def TV. Then he decides to watch his '300' HD-DVD. Well, what do you know... he is surprised at how bad his HD-DVD looks (because it's really just DVD). "Well, let me see if I can get a look at Blu-ray somewhere". He visits a local retailer (hopefully Sony Store) and sees the difference. "WOW! What a difference from HD-DVD! I'll take one of those... and those... and those... and some movies to go along with my new equipment." In a perfect world it could happen.

08-19-2007, 03:14 PM	#10
phranctoast Power Member Member since:Aug 2006 Location:Long Island, NY;psn:phranctoast Blu-ray collection:78	I think its a combo disc so it could be played in any dvd player.

08-19-2007, 03:17 PM	#11
blurayistheway Member Member since:Feb 2007 Location:colorado	perhaps bb overstocked hd-dud and this is the best way to get rid of um. maybe people will take hd-dud if we give movies away...

08-19-2007, 07:21 PM	#13
BluDrew Banned Member since:Aug 2007	I just realized that the HD DVD of "300" is a combo, so buyers will get an HD DVD movie for free that they can watch right away. It might be an incentive to get the HD DVD add-on. Makes sense I guess.

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