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Old 08-22-2007, 08:54 PM   #1
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I was looking at 2 sets, I now have a 42" Panasonic LCD but it's only 720p & 1080i....so I want to buy a 1080P tomorrow(Thursday). I was a BJ's looking at the Vizio 47" LCD 1080P (Model# GV47LF) read alota good reviews on it looked decent at store display....but next to it I noticed a Phillips that picture to be honest looked alot better & I could spare the extra $200 for a better picture!(Model# 47PF9441) it read & claim's to be 1080p but when looked on-line I read that it actually only accepts up to 1080i & then up-converts to 1080p thus really ever only being 1080i(30fps) no 1080p or 60fps what's the deal & what set should I go with I definatly need 1080p not 1080i/720p cause I already have a nice set for them, I want 1080p for my Blu-ray's.....ASAP Help is much appriciated, Thanks
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Old 08-22-2007, 08:57 PM   #2
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ive got to reccomedn any of the samsung 65 series. i got the 40" and it only set me back about 1750 bucks which i thought was a great deal, don't know how much your willing to spend though.
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Old 08-22-2007, 08:59 PM   #3
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What size and price range are under consideration? Do you know if you want LCD, Plasma or projection?
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Old 08-22-2007, 09:02 PM   #4
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I'm looking at larger then 42" & an LCD & looking to spend $2000 or under(after tax)....the Vizio was only $1499 the Philips was $1699
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Old 08-22-2007, 09:10 PM   #5
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Hmm, an LCD true 1080p bigger than 42" may be a tough to get under $2000. 46" and up they are still pretty pricey...
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Old 08-22-2007, 09:14 PM   #6
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I'm looking at larger then 42" & an LCD & looking to spend $2000 or under(after tax)....the Vizio was only $1499 the Philips was $1699
Costco has the new 52" 1080p Vizio......it's price is $2199, but with a coupon until the 26th, it's $200 off or $1,999.

It's got 4 HDMI inputs and looks awesome.

Are you a Costco member?
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Old 08-22-2007, 09:25 PM   #7
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Costco has the new 52" 1080p Vizio......it's price is $2199, but with a coupon until the 26th, it's $200 off or $1,999.

It's got 4 HDMI inputs and looks awesome.

Are you a Costco member?
No Costso nearby...only a Bj's....of course I got all the other usuals (Best Buy, Target, Wal-Mart, Circuit City, Etc.)
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Old 08-22-2007, 09:38 PM   #8
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No Costso nearby...only a Bj's....of course I got all the other usuals (Best Buy, Target, Wal-Mart, Circuit City, Etc.)
That's too bad.

The 47" Vizio is terrific for the price, however what I've noticed is that is doesn't have a very good cotrast ratio so it appears to be a bit washed out.
I don't see this effect in the other Vizio sets including the 52".

The 47" just went down $200 when they released the 52" set.

Here is a review of the 47" set:


http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volum...07-part-1.html
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Old 08-22-2007, 09:47 PM   #9
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That's too bad.

The 47" Vizio is terrific for the price, however what I've noticed is that is doesn't have a very good cotrast ratio so it appears to be a bit washed out.
I don't see this effect in the other Vizio sets including the 52".

The 47" just went down $200 when they released the 52" set.

Here is a review of the 47" set:


http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volum...07-part-1.html
Thanks that review was very helpful BJ's may have that new 52" set I'll check it out, Thanks
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Old 08-22-2007, 09:58 PM   #10
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No Costso nearby...only a Bj's....of course I got all the other usuals (Best Buy, Target, Wal-Mart, Circuit City, Etc.)
If you were really interested...........just saying.

The thing about the Vizio is that the screens are good quality and they just use cheaper components in the back end so you often end up with a less "state of the art" set than other brands but for the price they can't be beat.

As to the upconverting issue, well, if it upconverts then it's not 1080 and nothing will make it be. It won't be true 1080p unless it accepts the input.

Good luck though, I'm sure whatever you get will look great. BTW, the TV that I have is now $2500 at Costco. It's a bit more than you wanted to spend but it is an awesome set.
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Old 08-23-2007, 02:01 AM   #11
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I've mow come across another Philips 47" LCD TV Model# 47PFL5432D/37 thruogh alot of searching on-line I have not found anywhere that say's this one is not TRUE 1080p HD...While the Philips(Model# 47PF9441) that claims to be 1080p through a search on google I found half the search results on page 1 say it's actually a 1080i only 1080p thruogh upscaling.....So just wondering if anyone knows anything about this Philips #47PFL5432D/37 I need to know if it is True 1080p HD(not upscaled) haven't found anywhere that say's otherwise but any1 with info much appriciated. The set's currentlt at Wal-Mart for less than $1700 plus I have a friend that works there so %10 discount.....If this set is Definatly Fully True 1080p I'm sold & will have it in home tomorrow!!
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Old 08-23-2007, 02:25 PM   #12
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I actually in the same situation as you, I have a 720p/1080i and I wanna get a 1080p and not spend over $2000

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-LN-S46...blurayforum-20

You don't have to pay shipping...
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Old 08-23-2007, 02:50 PM   #13
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I have the Vizio 42" and it looks better than the 47". The 42 is a great value and when you get your picture settings right looks very good on BD and PS3 games.
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Old 08-23-2007, 03:26 PM   #14
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I have the Vizio 42" and it looks better than the 47". The 42 is a great value and when you get your picture settings right looks very good on BD and PS3 games.
I have the 32" in the bedroom and it looks fantastic......if I got a Vizio right now that was 1080p I'd either buy the 42" or the new 52"......they both look better then the 47".

The 47" just needs to be tweaked by Vizio to fix the contrast ratio and get rid of some of the bluish hasze from the backlight. I'm sure it can be done.
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Old 08-23-2007, 03:51 PM   #15
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Vizio's price seems to good to be true. I still like Sony and Samsungs the best.
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Get a 1080p 61 inch Samsung HL-T6189S for $2400.

Best money I ever spent.
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Old 08-23-2007, 05:12 PM   #17
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Get the Philips one. I bouth a 42" 1080p Philips lcd tv for my parents about 2 months ago and it is great. Even the standard def picture looks good. Blu-rays look astonishing on it. It's model# 42PFL7432D. You can't go wrong with this one. Best buy is selling it for $1499.99 right now.
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Old 08-23-2007, 10:02 PM   #18
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Vizio's price seems to good to be true. I still like Sony and Samsungs the best.
The Vizio's prices are real. I do like the Sony's the best followed by the other major manufacturer's, but when we bought the 32" Vizio for the bedroom, I had a $160 rebate check from Costco and the set was selling for $699 (now $599)versus the Sony at the time which was $1,199.

I could not pass it up and have had it since Novemebr 2006. Great set. The PQ on the Vizios is not quite as good as the Sony's, Samsungs, etc....and you see this mainly in the black levels, but for all that savings, once calibrated, they are very good.

I guess you have to decide how picky you are and if the difference in price is worth the difference in PQ to you.

Stop by a Costco and check em out.

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Old 08-24-2007, 12:49 PM   #19
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The Vizio's prices are real. I do like the Sony's the best followed by the other major manufacturer's, but when we bought the 32" Vizio for the bedroom, I had a $160 rebate check from Costco and the set was selling for $699 (now $599)versus the Sony at the time which was $1,199.

I could not pass it up and have had it since Novemebr 2006. Great set. The PQ on the Vizios is not quite as good as the Sony's, Samsungs, etc....and you see this mainly in the black levels, but for all that savings, once calibrated, they are very good.

I guess you have to decide how picky you are and if the difference in price is worth the difference in PQ to you.

Stop by a Costco and check em out.
Interesting...I'm not picky about black levels, moreso about colors sharpness and detail...I'll check it out, thanks
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Old 08-24-2007, 01:04 PM   #20
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Sony and Samsung. They both use the same screens manufactured by Samsung. I spent months reading reviews on internet, periodicals at the library, and countless hours at numerous stores in my area that sell tvs. Sharp is good for color and clarity, but tends to have more jagged edges.
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