Like the days of DIVX...

[Julman]

If I remember correctly, back in the day of the DVD vs. DIVX format war Paramount supported DIVX hoping to do away with DVD. They lost millions due to their incompetence and lack of technical awareness. DVD is still going strong. When's the last time you heard of someone playing a DIVX disc. Much will be the same with HD-DVD. Paramount will learn the hard way once again.

[BLUE BALLS]

Originally Posted by Julman

If I remember correctly, back in the day of the DVD vs. DIVX format war Paramount supported DIVX hoping to do away with DVD. They lost millions due to their incompetence and lack of technical awareness. DVD is still going strong. When's the last time you heard of someone playing a DIVX disc. Much will be the same with HD-DVD. Paramount will learn the hard way once again.

Ya Disney also backed DIVx so one may want to rethink the studio bashing before one steps in the droppings left behind.

[Matt X]

...along w/the underhanded tactics that supporters of the INFERIOR format pulled. I worked @ CC during that battle, and they were pulling s&*t like tripling the commissions on the DIVX players vs. DVD. some of the sales guys were just about making a buck, but many saw through the BS-----

[Julman]

True but Disney learned from their mistake and now are backing the right horse. Sadly Paramount has not learned from their million dollar mistakes in the past and now are doomed to repeat it. Much like Circuit City/Divx paying out companies for their support. The same is happening with HD-DVD. Looks like a last ditch effort and history repeating itself.

[BLUE BALLS]

Originally Posted by Julman

True but Disney learned from their mistake and now are backing the right horse. Sadly Paramount has not learned from their million dollar mistakes in the past and now are doomed to repeat it. Much like Circuit City/Divx paying out companies for their support. The same is happening with HD-DVD. Looks like a last ditch effort and history repeating itself.

Yes but Disney's CEO even said at teh annual meeting that they would be backing both formats in the coming year. So unless he goes back on the statwement he made to many many shareholders and doesn't care about keeping his lofty perch at TWDC he had best live up to his statement or he may find himself looking for a new position by way of being voted out by the shareholders he made priomises to. I will personally cast my vote to remove him if he goes back on this statement he made to myself and every other shareholder in attendance and by proxy.

[mikem471]

Originally Posted by BLUE BALLS

Ya Disney also backed DIVx so one may want to rethink the studio bashing before one steps in the droppings left behind.

What are you still doing here, asswipe? Are you that much of a nerd that as soon as the Paramount announcement was made you had to rush over to this site? Piss off

[monkyman]

Originally Posted by BLUE BALLS

Yes but Disney's CEO even said at teh annual meeting that they would be backing both formats in the coming year.

I highly doubt it since they are haveing the Bluray tour as we speak.

[alpinewiz]

Originally Posted by BLUE BALLS

Yes but Disney's CEO even said at teh annual meeting that they would be backing both formats in the coming year. So unless he goes back on the statwement he made to many many shareholders and doesn't care about keeping his lofty perch at TWDC he had best live up to his statement or he may find himself looking for a new position by way of being voted out by the shareholders he made priomises to. I will personally cast my vote to remove him if he goes back on this statement he made to myself and every other shareholder in attendance and by proxy.

If you can please post a link to the notes on that shareholder meeting.

[BLUE BALLS]

Originally Posted by monkyman

I highly doubt it since they are haveing the Bluray tour as we speak.

You are correct they are having a BR tour just remember a tour doesn't mean the be all and end all of support. I can see them releasing BR for the remainder of the year and start with HD DVD support after that. Remember even a CEO is held accountable by shareholders and if they say they are going to do something and then don't to their shareholders there are reprecussions.

[alpinewiz]

Originally Posted by BLUE BALLS

You are correct they are having a BR tour just remember a tour doesn't mean the be all and end all of support. I can see them releasing BR for the remainder of the year and start with HD DVD support after that. Remember even a CEO is held accountable by shareholders and if they say they are going to do something and then don't to their shareholders there are reprecussions.

Again, IF YOU CAN post a link to the notes of that conference.

[BLUE BALLS]

Originally Posted by alpinewiz

If you can please post a link to the notes on that shareholder meeting.

I wouldn't even know where to begin to look for any minutes that would have been taken from teh meeting. I guess we could start with Disney directly I am sure they must have taken minutes and notes at the meeting but not 100% sure.

[alpinewiz]

That is because it was never said! Do your homework son!

Originally held May 8th 2007:
http://amedia.disney.go.com/investor...t_earnings.pdf

The Q3 earnings call did not mention HD DVD even once! and if you want to check for yourself here is the link to that one as well:
http://amedia.disney.go.com/investor...t_earnings.pdf

Now don't open your mouth until you know what you are talking about.

Have a nice day!

[Balquin]

He wont have to worry about answering to anyone, as this whole mess will be over by next year and they can just keep on there steady path of Blu-ray.

[Sielle]

As a CEO he would be accountable for what he said, if there was a business reason for Disney to support HD DVD. Keeping in mind the startup costs of having to release discs on a dying format, I think the only shareholders that would be upset are those that have an emotional investment in HD DVD not those that want to see their value in Disney rise (e.g., almost all the shareholders).

As for the whole DVD vs. Dvix and Blu vs. HD... Disney and Fox are doing the EXACT same thing this time around as they did last time. They're backing the format that gives the studios the most control over the consumers. Granted this time it's not as drastic a difference (Enhanced copy protection and limited region coding vs. time locked and pay per view discs). Luckly this time the one that gives studios the most control also happens to be benificial to the consumer in other areas which Dvix wasn't in any significant way.

[BLUE BALLS]

Originally Posted by alpinewiz

That is because it was never said! Do your homework son!

Originally held May 8th 2007:
http://amedia.disney.go.com/investor...t_earnings.pdf

The Q3 earnings call did not mention HD DVD even once! and if you want to check for yourself here is the link to that one as well:
http://amedia.disney.go.com/investor...t_earnings.pdf

Now don't open your mouth until you know what you are talking about.

Have a nice day!

Well all I can tell you is I was there and yes it was

[alpinewiz]

Originally Posted by BLUE BALLS

Well all I can tell you is I was there and yes it was

WOW! You were there but cannot come up with documentation to back up your claim. NICE!

Even with the documents right there you still can not accept that it did not happen.

MOD, Please take this guy off. He's just here to start crap!

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by Sielle

As a CEO he would be accountable for what he said, if there was a business reason for Disney to support HD DVD. Keeping in mind the startup costs of having to release discs on a dying format, I think the only shareholders that would be upset are those that have an emotional investment in HD DVD not those that want to see their value in Disney rise (e.g., almost all the shareholders).

And also, Disney has a dozen few very good corporate reasons NOT to support HD:
They've got a direct boardroom tie to Apple (and not Microsoft) for technology, promotion and synergy, and are poised at a position to saturate the industry almost immediately the day Blu should come out on top.
The bulk of their promotion has been around the in-house disk content they've added to Cars and Pirates, and they've taken it upon themselves to be the new "spokesman" studio for Blu, even in absence of Sony.
...Simply put, they ain't switchin' now.

(And yeah, I remember Circuit City, and I'll second the MOD-bounce call:
Either we've got an idiot or a deliberate stretch-troll, either one's not going to benefit the board any.)

[Chris Gerhard]

Originally Posted by Julman

True but Disney learned from their mistake and now are backing the right horse. Sadly Paramount has not learned from their million dollar mistakes in the past and now are doomed to repeat it. Much like Circuit City/Divx paying out companies for their support. The same is happening with HD-DVD. Looks like a last ditch effort and history repeating itself.

If Paramount has received a $150,000,000 payment/incentive package, how do you figure they have not learned from their mistake? Paramount would never and I mean never make $150,000,000 profit from the sales of Blu-ray discs. How could they turn this deal down and if the same deal is offered to Warner, how can they turn it down? I don't hold anything against Paramount for making this business decision. The really puzzling part is how in the world does the $150,000,000 get recouped by the companies that paid it? There just isn't that kind of market possible, particularly as long as the format war continues. I would like to see the return on investment calculation for that deal in a few years.

Chris

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by Chris Gerhard

If Paramount has received a $150,000,000 payment/incentive package, how do you figure they have not learned from their mistake? Paramount would never and I mean never make $150,000,000 profit from the sales of Blu-ray discs. How could they turn this deal down and if the same deal is offered to Warner, how can they turn it down?

They can turn it down when it suddenly gets a lot of bad industry press they, um, didn't expect it to, not to mention buzzings about having your company investigated by the SEC, legitimate deal or not.

There are easy ways of doing things, and there are hard ways, and one of the easy ways is to wait and see what happens to somebody else.

(Also, Warner's only continuing to support HD to keep their TotalHD dual-disk investments alive, a bit of money they would also ironically lose if they gave up Blu tomorrow--
Whether Microsoft likes it or not, Warner's forced to be neutral, because they just don't have much darn choice.)

[grip24]

Originally Posted by BLUE BALLS

Well all I can tell you is I was there and yes it was

There seems to be a bunch of trolling going on since Paramount left blu-camp...did MS pay you guys to come here???/

Any ways for you hd-dvd trolls theres good news for you guys by Fox only commiting to blu-ray....You wont have to worry about seeing Ryan Seacrest on hd-dvd since he seems to be Fox property.....So adios