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Old 06-03-2010, 04:07 AM   #1
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Default Blu-ray movies that are overrated?

Are there any major Blu-ray movies that are overrated? I don't mean the MOVIE being overrated, but the actual Blu-ray.

For example, people saying so-and-so movies has great PQ and AQ, or amazing special features, when they really don't?

Is there any specific movie(s) I should avoid buying on Blu?
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Old 06-03-2010, 04:09 AM   #2
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Dark Knight. I wouldn't say avoid buying it by any means, but it gets a lot of perfect scores for picture quality that, if you were just judging the IMAX scenes, would be spot on, but the rest of the scenes are pretty so-so.
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Old 06-03-2010, 04:10 AM   #3
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Old 06-03-2010, 04:11 AM   #4
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What's wrong with the Avatar Blu-ray? It's pristine.
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Old 06-03-2010, 04:15 AM   #5
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I think this question applied a lot more 3 years ago when every new movie release was called "reference" quality

If anything i think what movies are underrated in this department is a far more important question as some movies have great transfers, yet get crapped on simply because they were made in 80's or don't have the look of avatar, or god forbid have grain.

Either way my main concern is if the movie is a signifigant upgrade over previous dvd releases (catalougue titles), which 99 out of 100 times it is, and the few times they were not or actually horrible, got new releases out already. The rest we won't see new transfers until blu-ray becomes THE format.
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Old 06-03-2010, 04:16 AM   #6
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What's wrong with the Avatar Blu-ray? It's pristine.
The same could be said for Dark Knight... It's a matter of opinion for the most part.
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Old 06-03-2010, 04:17 AM   #7
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Not really . . . there are things that were done to Dark Knight to make it look bad that are pretty easily pointed out. The same can't be said of Avatar.
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What's wrong with the Avatar Blu-ray? It's pristine.
Maybe the audio? I know that a couple of people noticed the audio doesn't go down past 25hz. Kind of an odd thing... Plus some of the dialogue didn't sound so hot.

I'd agree about The Dark Knight. Granted it looks exactly like the IMAX print would, but that's not a good thing since it's DNR'd and EE'd to the max. But the IMAX stuff looks amazingly great.

My choice is Planet Earth though. It just doesn't look like it's near today's standards.
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The same could be said for Dark Knight... It's a matter of opinion for the most part.
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Of course it is, since actual artifacts and transfer problems get discussed here quite frequently. Except dark knight really did have a few tiny things, although i would not consider that to be over rated as it really was an overall beautiful blu-ray
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Old 06-03-2010, 04:27 AM   #10
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Well, there's two ways to answer this question. Many blu-rays represent a very tangible upgrade over SD, but don't look as good as the movie COULD look.
Then there's discs that just aren't a major upgrade over SD. I'm guessing you're looking for discs in this category, which tend to be older films.

I find it best to be wary with releases by distributors like Criterion and Blue Underground, whose fanbase has a certain "they can do no wrong" mentality. Criterion's The 400 Blows, for instance, could pass for a DVD for the most part.
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There is no such thing as an overrated blu-ray.
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Old 06-03-2010, 05:39 AM   #12
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Well, there's two ways to answer this question. Many blu-rays represent a very tangible upgrade over SD, but don't look as good as the movie COULD look.
Then there's discs that just aren't a major upgrade over SD. I'm guessing you're looking for discs in this category, which tend to be older films.

I find it best to be wary with releases by distributors like Criterion and Blue Underground, whose fanbase has a certain "they can do no wrong" mentality. Criterion's The 400 Blows, for instance, could pass for a DVD for the most part.
Could not disagree more here, although thats purely a matter of opinion. I see catalogue releases as getting the greatest benefit, especially older stuff, where mostly newer stuff does not see the greatest upgrade as the dvd already looks stellar. Of course folks on this site, myself included know how "obvious" the difference is, to j6p the dvd looks great! Unlike for instance the old non anamorphic dvds, some of which were used for great titles that are only available on those crappy dvd's. *cough* grosse point blank *cough*

Most of what i have seen from Criterion has been great so far, but i definitely hear where your coming from. Fanboyism sucks in every regard, especially for the consumer that does not drink the kool-aid.
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Well, there's two ways to answer this question. Many blu-rays represent a very tangible upgrade over SD, but don't look as good as the movie COULD look.
Then there's discs that just aren't a major upgrade over SD. I'm guessing you're looking for discs in this category, which tend to be older films.

I find it best to be wary with releases by distributors like Criterion and Blue Underground, whose fanbase has a certain "they can do no wrong" mentality. Criterion's The 400 Blows, for instance, could pass for a DVD for the most part.
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That is certainly true of the cult distributors. The people inclined to review something from Criterion or Blue Underground are loathe to criticize the BD on the merits, simply being content with the obscure film finally being released. That also exists to some degree with older classics, which many seem to want to grade on a curve. If a disc looks bad, it does not matter how old or great the film is.
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hate when old film get crazy good PQ just because it looks as good as it can. recently i been watching trueblood and the blu doesnt look much different than the HD broadcast however the audio is amazing, they use every damn speaker for most the time.
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Transformers. The movie is still bad even though it looks really good.
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To me, Blade Runner is what every old movie on Blu-ray should strive to be, but most never do.
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It was like stepping back in time and watching VHS again.
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Dark Knight. I wouldn't say avoid buying it by any means, but it gets a lot of perfect scores for picture quality that, if you were just judging the IMAX scenes, would be spot on, but the rest of the scenes are pretty so-so.
+1 I couldn't agree more! Great movie though
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Maybe the audio? I know that a couple of people noticed the audio doesn't go down past 25hz. Kind of an odd thing... Plus some of the dialogue didn't sound so hot.

I'd agree about The Dark Knight. Granted it looks exactly like the IMAX print would, but that's not a good thing since it's DNR'd and EE'd to the max. But the IMAX stuff looks amazingly great.

My choice is Planet Earth though. It just doesn't look like it's near today's standards.
+ 1 Planet earth looks good but lacks lossless audio..
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