calibration

[jhoffs_ht]

can i use any 50" panny plasma custom user settings?

[dsskid]

Originally Posted by jhoffs_ht

can i use any 50" panny plasma custom user settings?

Sure if you don't mind getting just "any" results.

However, I think you'd be better served picking up a calibration disc and setting the brightness, contrast, color and tint properly for your display and environment, or try settings found for your make and model at Cnet.com .

[Alan Brown]

Let's be completely clear. The fundamental purpose of video calibration is to get the picture to look as close as possible to that which a professional mastering monitor produces. If image fidelity is your objective, use video industry test signals to adjust your TV properly. Copying settings from any other TV (even the same model) cannot be considered authentic calibration. There are just too many variables at play, including: component tolerances are too loose in consumer devices, signal source devices differ, viewing environment conditions differ, etc.

CNET and TweakTV settings guides can help determine which general picture modes on a given TV approach the best results. However, actual picture adjustment menu values can vary significantly from sample to sample. At minimum, use a test disc. Ideally, have your set professionally calibrated.

Best regards and beautiful pictures,
Alan Brown, President
CinemaQuest, Inc.
A Lion AV Consultants Affiliate

"Advancing the art and science of electronic imaging"

[dcowboy7]

What if we are too cheap to spend mucho dinero $$ on calibration.

+ ive seen some people say they had calibration done but actually liked their own settings that they had in the first place better.

[My_Two_Cents]

Originally Posted by dcowboy7

What if we are too cheap to spend mucho dinero $$ on calibration.

+ ive seen some people say they had calibration done but actually liked their own settings that they had in the first place better.

There's an accurate picture, and then there's what some people "like". Torch modes are inherently inaccurate, yet many people believe that type of cartoony picture is the best. One doesn't need to spend a lot of $$ to get a good, semi-accurate picture, which can be achieved with industry test patterns/colors on various calibration (user-adjustment) discs. Others wish to have the most accurate picture possible, which will require professional calibration.

[Alan Brown]

Originally Posted by dcowboy7

What if we are too cheap to spend mucho dinero $$ on calibration.

+ ive seen some people say they had calibration done but actually liked their own settings that they had in the first place better.

Who is this "we" you are speaking for?

Genuine calibration is for an accurate picture, not one any individual viewer may "like" or not. The only exception is the program producer who approved the video program being displayed.

There is no shortage of misunderstanding, confusion, and misinformation on the internet about what video calibration is or isn't. This thread: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=712929 , contains customer reports from over three and a half years of professional calibration results. Hearsay and speculation seldom stand up against authoritative facts and first-hand experience.

[dcowboy7]

But thats my point....i dont want an "accurate" pic for them i want an "accurate" pic for me.

Its kinda like the whole endless "motionflow" argument here when people say "dont use it cause it makes film look like video & thats not what the director intended."

But i like that video "real" look....screw the director.

I want the pic to look how i like it to look.

....Oh the we is me.

[Alan Brown]

Originally Posted by dcowboy7

But thats my point....i dont want an "accurate" pic for them i want an "accurate" pic for me.

Its kinda like the whole endless "motionflow" argument here when people say "dont use it cause it makes film look like video & thats not what the director intended."

But i like that video "real" look....screw the director.

I want the pic to look how i like it to look.

....Oh the we is me.

I appreciate the honesty! However, you still fail at logic. Please look up the definition for "accurate" and apply it to the context of the video industry. It's fine for you to make your TV picture look however you want, but it's not authentic video calibration according to video industry terms.

[dcowboy7]

I know im just saying calibration will not always give the better pic in the eye of the beholder.

[Al Bundy]

Originally Posted by Alan Brown

I appreciate the honesty! However, you still fail at logic. Please look up the definition for "accurate" and apply it to the context of the video industry. It's fine for you to make your TV picture look however you want, but it's not authentic video calibration according to video industry terms.

He is using the wrong word. I think he needs to replace accurate with personal perference.

[Alan Brown]

Originally Posted by dcowboy7

I know im just saying calibration will not always give the better pic in the eye of the beholder.

The simplest way to keep this issue straight is to realize that image fidelity is only possible if the display behaves according to video standards, like a reference professional monitor. An uncalibrated consumer TV will not provide a reference image. Beauty may be subjective but fidelity is not. Confusion and misunderstanding can be avoided if terms are defined and objectives are clear.

Some video consumers say they prefer a higher color temperature setting on their TV (bluer whites, and by default- blue tinted everything else). Yet you typically won't see them wearing blue tinted glasses over their "beholding eyes" to the movies, the art museum, or the hockey game.

Best regards and beautiful pictures,
Alan Brown, President
CinemaQuest, Inc.
A Lion AV Consultants Affiliate

"Advancing the art and science of electronic imaging"

[john_1958]

Originally Posted by Alan Brown

Let's be completely clear. The fundamental purpose of video calibration is to get the picture to look as close as possible to that which a professional mastering monitor produces. If image fidelity is your objective, use video industry test signals to adjust your TV properly. Copying settings from any other TV (even the same model) cannot be considered authentic calibration. There are just too many variables at play, including: component tolerances are too loose in consumer devices, signal source devices differ, viewing environment conditions differ, etc.

CNET and TweakTV settings guides can help determine which general picture modes on a given TV approach the best results. However, actual picture adjustment menu values can vary significantly from sample to sample. At minimum, use a test disc. Ideally, have your set professionally calibrated.

Best regards and beautiful pictures,
Alan Brown, President
CinemaQuest, Inc.
A Lion AV Consultants Affiliate

"Advancing the art and science of electronic imaging"

i did checkout their settings and got a chuckle

wish sets were auto-settings like color and contrast

[john_1958]

http://www.cnet.com/1990-7874_1-5108580-6.html
http://www.cnet.com/1990-7874_1-5108...ag=hdtv;hdtv_l

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print...771&type=story
http://www.ultimate-hdtv.com/hdtv-setup-tuning.php
http://myweb.accessus.net/~090/how2adj.html

just a few calibrate sites