Terminator 3 : in need a of new replacement program ! - Blu-ray Forum

Daredevil666 · 05-06-2010, 08:07 AM

Is Terminator 3 the black sheep of Blu-Ray films ? Like it or hate it, the movie deserves to be accurately represented on HD format. So we got a 1080i picture, then lossy sound while the Europe version got loosless... Now what about the full picture. I mean the big picture. Don't know what I'm talking about ?

Here take a look. Because a picture is worth a thousand words...

Alpha · 05-06-2010, 08:47 AM

What a wonderful presentation.

Jezza · 05-06-2010, 09:28 AM

So are you saying that the US Blu-ray of T3 is widescreen and 1080i, whilst the Europe Blu-ray is 16:9 and 1080p, because I do remember seeing T3 on television a while ago and the picture suddenly seemed larger compared to my DVD, so was it shot in 16:9 like Avatar?

demiscy · 05-06-2010, 09:31 AM

so, no boobies on the BD release ???

Daredevil666 · 05-06-2010, 09:36 AM

Here's a recap :

- 1st release on Blu-Ray had problem, with 1080i picture, a replacement program was made and the release is now corrected. However, it has lossy sound.

- UK / Europe release have better bitrate and loosless sound.

- All Blu releases have a zoomed in picture, especially on the opening scenes, while the HDTV version opens the mattes, to give us the full width and feast for the eyes, as seen above. So yes, you can't see the full beauty of Kristanna Loken on your blu disc.

- No home release exists un-zoomed, apart the 4/3 DVD which have the full top and bottom picture, but lack the borders that you can see on the HDTV 1.77 version.

IMHO, they should just re-release it in 1.77, Avatar like. As you can see above, that's extremely severe zoomboxing.

T3 was shot I think in Super 35, which is approx 1.66:1 when all is exposed. (no pun intended)

Jezza · 05-06-2010, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dvdvision

Here's a recap :

- 1st release on Blu-Ray had problem, with 1080i picture, a replacement program was made and the release is now corrected. However, it has lossy sound.

- UK / Europe release have better bitrate and loosless sound.

- All Blu releases have a zoomed in picture, especially on the opening scenes, while the HDTV version opens the mattes, to give us the full width and feast for the eyes, as seen above. So yes, you can't see the full beauty of Kristanna Loken on your blu disc.

- No home release exists un-zoomed, apart the 4/3 DVD which have the full top and bottom picture, but lack the borders that you can see on the HDTV 1.77 version.

IMHO, they should just re-release it in 1.77, Avatar like. As you can see above, that's extremely severe zoomboxing.

Right I understand now, because having had just a quick look at my DVD, the opening scenes do look very grainy. Do you think this is why T3 has a lower rating than the first two Terminator movies; by that I mean in the home-video version you see much less of Loken, meaning it would get a lower rating for very little nudity, but if you had the 'full-picture' it may be higher because there is more of her on-screen? Was it done by the producers so that it would appeal to younger audiences?

STARSCREAM · 05-06-2010, 09:49 AM

SIGH, if only they would release it like that!

bhampton · 05-06-2010, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demiscy

so, no boobies on the BD release ???

Yeah,... I think I sold back my DVD version which had both OAR and pro-boobie versions of the film. D'oh!

RiseDarthVader · 05-06-2010, 10:13 AM

I think I will watch the movie intended by the director then have Warner Bros. re-release the Blu-ray for some horny pervs.

Daredevil666 · 05-06-2010, 10:23 AM

In the theaters, the nudity was there - the HD master was tampered with and zoomboxed for unknown reasons. I doubt it's the director who did it.

Proof :

Porkchop Express · 05-06-2010, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dvdvision

In the theaters, the nudity was there - the HD master was tampered with and zoomboxed for unknown reasons. I doubt it's the director who did it.

Proof :

That sucks. It's definitey not a very good release, which is unfortunate because I really enjoy the movie.

Mr. J · 05-06-2010, 02:02 PM

Thats what I want to see. The need to release again in the correct aspect ratio!

DetroitSportsFan · 05-06-2010, 02:33 PM

I did my own replacement program. I got rid of the US release and got the UK release.

As for this topless scene, sure, it would be nice to have the whole frame, but meh.... there's not much to see anyway.

bhampton · 05-06-2010, 02:51 PM

I'm all about Original Aspect Ratio unless it removes Boobies from the frame.

STARSCREAM · 05-06-2010, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhampton

I'm all about Original Aspect Ratio unless it removes Boobies from the frame.

LOL, classic!

drtre81 · 05-06-2010, 06:58 PM

well...

at least the booty shot was kept intact.

ClaytonMG · 05-06-2010, 07:41 PM

I remember this topic being brought up back when the DVD was released. The 4x3 version of the film actually had the full frame in tact. I thought the widescreen version was just cropping off the top and bottom (like the director intended), but never realized the sides are also getting cropped despite being there in the theater.

Arkitect76 · 05-06-2010, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drtre81

well...

At least the booty shot was kept intact.

thats good enough for me....

Jutty · 05-07-2010, 12:02 AM

Well,im glad i got the UK release.........

and also kept my DVDs of the terminator 1,2 and 3

QuasidodoJr · 05-07-2010, 12:10 AM

If they're just a few scenes that showed Lokken's sweater puppets, I think I can live without them.

05-06-2010, 08:07 AM	#1
Daredevil666 Power Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Future Earth Blu-ray reviews:1	Terminator 3 : in need a of new replacement program ! Is Terminator 3 the black sheep of Blu-Ray films ? Like it or hate it, the movie deserves to be accurately represented on HD format. So we got a 1080i picture, then lossy sound while the Europe version got loosless... Now what about the full picture. I mean the big picture. Don't know what I'm talking about ? Here take a look. Because a picture is worth a thousand words...

05-06-2010, 09:36 AM	#5
Daredevil666 Power Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Future Earth Blu-ray reviews:1	Here's a recap : - 1st release on Blu-Ray had problem, with 1080i picture, a replacement program was made and the release is now corrected. However, it has lossy sound. - UK / Europe release have better bitrate and loosless sound. - All Blu releases have a zoomed in picture, especially on the opening scenes, while the HDTV version opens the mattes, to give us the full width and feast for the eyes, as seen above. So yes, you can't see the full beauty of Kristanna Loken on your blu disc. - No home release exists un-zoomed, apart the 4/3 DVD which have the full top and bottom picture, but lack the borders that you can see on the HDTV 1.77 version. IMHO, they should just re-release it in 1.77, Avatar like. As you can see above, that's extremely severe zoomboxing. T3 was shot I think in Super 35, which is approx 1.66:1 when all is exposed. (no pun intended) Last edited by Daredevil666; 05-06-2010 at 09:44 AM.

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05-06-2010, 08:47 AM	#2
Alpha Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jan 2010 Location:The Island Trading Score:45	What a wonderful presentation.

05-06-2010, 09:28 AM	#3
Jezza Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Apr 2010 4K collection:431 Blu-ray collection:820 DVD collection:36 Trading Score:1	So are you saying that the US Blu-ray of T3 is widescreen and 1080i, whilst the Europe Blu-ray is 16:9 and 1080p, because I do remember seeing T3 on television a while ago and the picture suddenly seemed larger compared to my DVD, so was it shot in 16:9 like Avatar?

05-06-2010, 09:31 AM	#4
demiscy Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Nicosia, CY (EU) Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:31	so, no boobies on the BD release ???

05-06-2010, 09:49 AM	#7
STARSCREAM Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Dagobah Blu-ray collection:148 Trading Score:67	SIGH, if only they would release it like that!

05-06-2010, 10:13 AM	#9
RiseDarthVader Power Member Member since:Sep 2008 Location:Australia Blu-ray collection:136	I think I will watch the movie intended by the director then have Warner Bros. re-release the Blu-ray for some horny pervs.

05-06-2010, 10:23 AM	#10
Daredevil666 Power Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Future Earth Blu-ray reviews:1	In the theaters, the nudity was there - the HD master was tampered with and zoomboxed for unknown reasons. I doubt it's the director who did it. Proof :

05-06-2010, 02:02 PM	#12
Mr. J Gaming Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jul 2008 Location:Arkham Asylum Home Theater Gallery:6 4K collection:393 Blu-ray collection:768 DVD collection:7 iTunes collection:628 Blu-ray reviews: 4 Trading Score:181	Thats what I want to see. The need to release again in the correct aspect ratio!

05-06-2010, 02:33 PM	#13
DetroitSportsFan Hot Deals Moderator Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Michigan 4K collection:439 Blu-ray collection:2226 Trading Score:93	I did my own replacement program. I got rid of the US release and got the UK release. As for this topless scene, sure, it would be nice to have the whole frame, but meh.... there's not much to see anyway.

05-06-2010, 02:51 PM	#14
bhampton Blu-ray Count Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:981 Blu-ray collection:2537 DVD collection:67 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:18	I'm all about Original Aspect Ratio unless it removes Boobies from the frame.

05-06-2010, 06:58 PM	#16
drtre81 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2009 Blu-ray collection:110	well... at least the booty shot was kept intact.

05-06-2010, 07:41 PM	#17
ClaytonMG Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2006 Location:New Brighton, MN Home Theater Gallery:16 4K collection:833 Blu-ray collection:2370 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	I remember this topic being brought up back when the DVD was released. The 4x3 version of the film actually had the full frame in tact. I thought the widescreen version was just cropping off the top and bottom (like the director intended), but never realized the sides are also getting cropped despite being there in the theater.

05-07-2010, 12:02 AM	#19
Jutty Power Member Member since:Aug 2009 Location:Beaufort SC (British Expat) 4K collection:253 Blu-ray collection:1273 DVD collection:46 MA collection:2 Digital collection:1033 iTunes collection:79 Trading Score:22	Well,im glad i got the UK release......... and also kept my DVDs of the terminator 1,2 and 3

05-07-2010, 12:10 AM	#20
QuasidodoJr Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Cincinnati, OH 4K collection:614 Blu-ray collection:1649 DVD collection:152 Trading Score:267	If they're just a few scenes that showed Lokken's sweater puppets, I think I can live without them.

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