TrueHD or DTS-HD MA when Star Wars (& other Lucasfilm movies) comes to Blu-ray? Both? - Blu-ray Forum

jd213 · 01-11-2008, 05:19 AM

Lucas loves Dolby, but Fox loves DTS MA. Will we see both when Star Wars comes out on Blu-Ray like Close Encounters was released, or will they only have Dolby TrueHD since Lucas has never used DTS on Star Wars?

JJ · 01-11-2008, 05:24 AM

Oof - good question. I wish for DTS HD MA, but I did not know Lucas was in bed with DD - blast! Well, let's hope for the best - which would be just getting it out on our format period. It can be TrueHD, DTS HD MA, PCM - heck, digitally erase Jar Jar from Episode 1!!

MarekM · 01-11-2008, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jd213

Lucas loves Dolby, but Fox loves DTS MA. Will we see both when Star Wars comes out on Blu-Ray like Close Encounters was released, or will they only have Dolby TrueHD since Lucas has never used DTS on Star Wars?

well, time will tell hmm, but as far Lucas and Dolby, I think we will get DolbyTrueHD

Marek

MarekM · 01-11-2008, 05:26 AM

I think somebody can email to Starwars.com

they can make new POLL on sound options for SW

Marek

DepTii · 01-11-2008, 05:26 AM

I think we'll see the world's first combination sound format: Dolby TrueDTS-HD MA

sardaukar1977 · 01-11-2008, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JJxiv1215

Oof - good question. I wish for DTS HD MA, but I did not know Lucas was in bed with DD - blast! Well, let's hope for the best - which would be just getting it out on our format period. It can be TrueHD, DTS HD MA, PCM - heck, digitally erase Jar Jar from Episode 1!!

Maybe they will have a branching version of episode I that will allow you to watch the version with or without Jar Jar. Mesa thinks Jar Jar needs to go. maybe they could have a version where every time jar jar comes on screen he gets hit by blaster fire and explodes like the Death Star, that would be great.
as for what kind of audio the blu-rays will have, I am pretty sure you are right about DD.

swifty7 · 01-11-2008, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JJxiv1215

Oof - good question. I wish for DTS HD MA, but I did not know Lucas was in bed with DD - blast! Well, let's hope for the best - which would be just getting it out on our format period. It can be TrueHD, DTS HD MA, PCM - heck, digitally erase Jar Jar from Episode 1!!

how about digitally erasing everything except Darth Maul.

sardaukar1977 · 01-11-2008, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by swifty7

how about digitally erasing everything except Darth Maul.

you are right, that was about the only thing good about Episode I

sowecrazy · 01-11-2008, 05:42 AM

i'm hoping for a DTS-MA or a PCM soundtrack TrueHD dosen't seem as full and loud as the other 2, kinda disapointed by it when i listen to a loud scene on Ghost Rider on DDTHD then i switch to PCM pcm just sounds so much better and louder along with spider-man 3 especially notacible at the end scene when he kills venom with the pipes. truehd is holding sumthing back

JJ · 01-11-2008, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by swifty7

how about digitally erasing everything except Darth Maul.

Keep Natalie Portman in non-painted scenes.

sonicbox · 01-11-2008, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by sowecrazy

i'm hoping for a DTS-MA or a PCM soundtrack TrueHD dosen't seem as full and loud as the other 2, kinda disapointed by it when i listen to a loud scene on Ghost Rider on DDTHD then i switch to PCM pcm just sounds so much better and louder along with spider-man 3 especially notacible at the end scene when he kills venom with the pipes. truehd is holding sumthing back

Your brain is being fooled by volume: once volume is matched, it will sound identical. Lossless = Lossless.

jd213 · 01-11-2008, 06:11 AM

Except when it has Dialog Normalization, which Dolby TrueHD frequently does.

justinbaily · 01-11-2008, 06:15 AM

I really want DTS MA-drop enough extra's from the movie discs and put dd and dts on each movie. Blu's got enough space to put all 6 movie's extras on a bd 50 for those that want them. Only thing should be on the movie discs is a stero director's comintary,scene selection and very basic stuff.
Saving room for dts ma is what matters to me so 90% of extra's need their own bd-50..problem solved i hope.

view-it-blu · 01-11-2008, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jd213

Lucas loves Dolby, but Fox loves DTS MA. Will we see both when Star Wars comes out on Blu-Ray like Close Encounters was released, or will they only have Dolby TrueHD since Lucas has never used DTS on Star Wars?

DTS MA all the way!

frenchglen · 01-11-2008, 07:03 AM

I am almost certian it will be Dolby TrueHD, but I don't think Lucas will use dialog normalisation, so it will be fine. He's all about the original sound from the studio, with THX mastering and all. And he's like Spielberg: he's powerful enough to override the studio on things like sound (while Spielberg demands DTS on his movies).

Besides he cares more about the sound effects than the story.

at least these days

Getus · 01-11-2008, 07:30 AM

I think it will be a dolbytrue hd track.
Because Thx surround Ex was developed with dolby.

But i am hoping for a dts or pcm track. either way it must be 7.1! and THX on blu!! can't wait!

HDJK · 01-11-2008, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJxiv1215

Oof - good question. I wish for DTS HD MA, but I did not know Lucas was in bed with DD - blast! Well, let's hope for the best - which would be just getting it out on our format period. It can be TrueHD, DTS HD MA, PCM - heck, digitally erase Jar Jar from Episode 1!!

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Originally Posted by sardaukar1977

Maybe they will have a branching version of episode I that will allow you to watch the version with or without Jar Jar. Mesa thinks Jar Jar needs to go. maybe they could have a version where every time jar jar comes on screen he gets hit by blaster fire and explodes like the Death Star, that would be great.
as for what kind of audio the blu-rays will have, I am pretty sure you are right about DD.

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Originally Posted by swifty7

how about digitally erasing everything except Darth Maul.

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Originally Posted by sardaukar1977

you are right, that was about the only thing good about Episode I

The Pod Race will be another reference scene for srround sound and LFE usage. I'll get it just for this scene alone

But on topic: How about a 2 disc release with all the bonus content on the second disc, leaving enough room for DTHD (without DN), DTS HD MA and PCM. That way everybody is happy.

blindcat87 · 01-11-2008, 08:18 AM

While I would prefer DTS, I think as long as they avoid DN, use the best elements available, and go THX with it, that it will be great.

If DN is off, then Dolby should be identical as lossless is lossless, but DTS HD MAA requires less headroom IIRC and the core 1.5 Mbps track makes it a better option IMO.

I think Lucas, since he is one of the biggest proponents of the "audio is half of the experience" school of thought, will pay as much attention to the sound as the video.

I hope we also get the SE and original versions with seamless branching. I am in the camp that prefers the original music in Jedi, cutesy Ewok song and all.

Chris

Maxell · 01-11-2008, 08:36 AM

What about THX-High-Def! (imageine that!)

Blu-Jawa · 01-11-2008, 08:41 AM

IMO as long as the PQ is given most of the space on the disc and keep all the extra's, games, online stuff on the second blu-ray disc. I would not mind ether one.

I was reading online about some studio's wanting to "STUFF" the blu-ray's with lots of other stuff, and I fear there will be less room for the Hi-def Pic and sound of there Film's.

01-11-2008, 05:19 AM	#1
jd213 Special Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:less than 10 minutes from Akihabara	TrueHD or DTS-HD MA when Star Wars (& other Lucasfilm movies) comes to Blu-ray? Both? Lucas loves Dolby, but Fox loves DTS MA. Will we see both when Star Wars comes out on Blu-Ray like Close Encounters was released, or will they only have Dolby TrueHD since Lucas has never used DTS on Star Wars?

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01-11-2008, 05:24 AM	#2
JJ Blu-ray Count Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Miami, FL Home Theater Gallery:99 4K collection:619 Blu-ray collection:1293 DVD collection:31 Digital collection:5 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:203	Oof - good question. I wish for DTS HD MA, but I did not know Lucas was in bed with DD - blast! Well, let's hope for the best - which would be just getting it out on our format period. It can be TrueHD, DTS HD MA, PCM - heck, digitally erase Jar Jar from Episode 1!!

01-11-2008, 05:26 AM	#4
MarekM Expert Member Member since:Oct 2006	I think somebody can email to Starwars.com they can make new POLL on sound options for SW Marek

01-11-2008, 05:26 AM	#5
DepTii Active Member Member since:Nov 2007 Blu-ray collection:154 Blu-ray reviews:26 Trading Score:3	I think we'll see the world's first combination sound format: Dolby TrueDTS-HD MA

01-11-2008, 05:42 AM	#9
sowecrazy Active Member Member since:Dec 2007 Location:illinois Blu-ray collection:250	i'm hoping for a DTS-MA or a PCM soundtrack TrueHD dosen't seem as full and loud as the other 2, kinda disapointed by it when i listen to a loud scene on Ghost Rider on DDTHD then i switch to PCM pcm just sounds so much better and louder along with spider-man 3 especially notacible at the end scene when he kills venom with the pipes. truehd is holding sumthing back

01-11-2008, 06:11 AM	#12
jd213 Special Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:less than 10 minutes from Akihabara	Except when it has Dialog Normalization, which Dolby TrueHD frequently does.

01-11-2008, 06:15 AM	#13
justinbaily Active Member Member since:Mar 2007	I really want DTS MA-drop enough extra's from the movie discs and put dd and dts on each movie. Blu's got enough space to put all 6 movie's extras on a bd 50 for those that want them. Only thing should be on the movie discs is a stero director's comintary,scene selection and very basic stuff. Saving room for dts ma is what matters to me so 90% of extra's need their own bd-50..problem solved i hope.

01-11-2008, 07:03 AM	#15
frenchglen Active Member Member since:Nov 2006	I am almost certian it will be Dolby TrueHD, but I don't think Lucas will use dialog normalisation, so it will be fine. He's all about the original sound from the studio, with THX mastering and all. And he's like Spielberg: he's powerful enough to override the studio on things like sound (while Spielberg demands DTS on his movies). Besides he cares more about the sound effects than the story. at least these days

01-11-2008, 07:30 AM	#16
Getus Active Member Member since:Dec 2007 Location:The Netherlands	I think it will be a dolbytrue hd track. Because Thx surround Ex was developed with dolby. But i am hoping for a dts or pcm track. either way it must be 7.1! and THX on blu!! can't wait!

01-11-2008, 08:18 AM	#18
blindcat87 Expert Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Southern NM	While I would prefer DTS, I think as long as they avoid DN, use the best elements available, and go THX with it, that it will be great. If DN is off, then Dolby should be identical as lossless is lossless, but DTS HD MAA requires less headroom IIRC and the core 1.5 Mbps track makes it a better option IMO. I think Lucas, since he is one of the biggest proponents of the "audio is half of the experience" school of thought, will pay as much attention to the sound as the video. I hope we also get the SE and original versions with seamless branching. I am in the camp that prefers the original music in Jedi, cutesy Ewok song and all. Chris

01-11-2008, 08:36 AM	#19
Maxell Expert Member Member since:Aug 2007	What about THX-High-Def! (imageine that!)

01-11-2008, 08:41 AM	#20
Blu-Jawa Expert Member Member since:Dec 2007 4K collection:245 Blu-ray collection:1579 DVD collection:519 Blu-ray reviews:2	IMO as long as the PQ is given most of the space on the disc and keep all the extra's, games, online stuff on the second blu-ray disc. I would not mind ether one. I was reading online about some studio's wanting to "STUFF" the blu-ray's with lots of other stuff, and I fear there will be less room for the Hi-def Pic and sound of there Film's.

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