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Old 01-12-2009, 10:43 PM   #1
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was anyone else completely floored by the PQ on this special feature segment...i was looking through various reviews of the disc online, but no one seemed to really comment on it much. Maybe Im nuts...but i thought it was dangerously close to some of the best HD material i've seen. And in any case, the fact that this footage is 40 years old truely astounds me.

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Old 01-12-2009, 10:52 PM   #2
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Whatup, Tommy? Welcome to the boards! I haven't checked out the material you mentioned, but I do have the Sleeping Beauty BD. I'll be sure to check it out next time I pop it in.

The nice thing about older film footage is that it still contains more than enough resolution for 1080 transfer. We've been locked into 480 "standard definition" for so many decades that it's easy to not realize it.

Have fun on here! There's a lot of very knowledgeable folks here, and thanks for the tip!

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Old 01-12-2009, 10:58 PM   #3
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I thought this was one of the best extra features I have ever seen on any home video release. It was very nice of Disney to include it on Sleeping Beauty.
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Old 01-12-2009, 11:01 PM   #4
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Whatup, Tommy? Welcome to the boards! I haven't checked out the material you mentioned, but I do have the Sleeping Beauty BD. I'll be sure to check it out next time I pop it in.

The nice thing about older film footage is that it still contains more than enough resolution for 1080 transfer. We've been locked into 480 "standard definition" for so many decades that it's easy to not realize it.

Have fun on here! There's a lot of very knowledgeable folks here, and thanks for the tip!

- Rob J

hey rob. i know what your saying about film, im just not used to seeing such clean, detailed restorations. thanks for the friendly reply though...its nice to join a message board without being greeted by some elitist prick who wants to make an ass out of you haha
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Old 01-13-2009, 01:22 PM   #5
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It's been brought up on the SB thread. It is quite good but unfortunately lots of folks don't bother with extras and that is understandable. But this is definitely worth checking out!
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Old 01-13-2009, 01:46 PM   #6
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Check out Lindsay's very detailed new article about the restoration process. You may not have seen it as it was posted a few months back

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Recently, Walt Disney Studios Home Entertainment held a web conference on the extensive restoration process of the monumental animated feature film Sleeping Beauty, and Blu-ray.com was in attendance. The following is a highlight report of the hour-long presentation, led by Senior Vice President of Post Production Sara Duran-Singer and moderated by WDSHE Publicity representative Mindy Johnson.

Using illustrative slides, Duran-Singer explained the difference in restoration technique for Sleeping Beauty's previous home video releases, especially its initial debut on DVD in 2003. The most problematic issue was the studio's use of film elements that were several generations removed from the original negative. Use of interpositives, internegatives, or other masters were utilized in its stead. But confidence in digital film preservation technology has grown exponentially every year. So, for Sleeping Beauty's latest release, a brand new, complete restoration was undertaken using the film's fragile nitrate negative, as well as the original 1958 score recordings from UFA Studios in West Berlin.



Sleeping Beauty was shot in the Sequential Technicolor process; fine grained, high quality black and white film is exposed through 3 successive filters of pure red, green, and blue to create a 3-frame perfect, unfading record of the colors. Using a photo optical process, these 3 color registers are then recombined to make one image. "What's really great about this is not only is the image sharp, but because it's shot on black and white film stock, it doesn't have any fading issues that we get in this current color negative," Duran- Singer explains. Because of this successive exposure process, three times the amount of footage - the entire film in cyan, yellow, and magenta respectively - had to be scrutinized and cleaned up accordingly. Scanned in at a 4K resolution, the film is restored and saved as a digital file - a new generation of negative, in some respects.

The film's format proved to be another challenge. Sleeping Beauty was shot using the Technirama Large Format Negative process, which was Technicolor's widescreen process using an anamorphic Delrama lens to produce high quality prints. Regular 35mm travels vertically and has 4 sprocket perforations per single frame, giving an approximate dimension to the original 35mm silent film frame of around 18 mm tall by 24mm wide. Paramount's VistaVision 35mm large format process had the film traveling horizontally, using the equivalent of two frames (8 perforations per frame or "double frame") to get a negative exposing area of 24mm tall by 36mm wide, just like the one used in 35mm still photography. The addition of an anamorphic lens allows then for a wider image to be recorded suitable for Scope and 70mm prints.


A. Standard 35mm B. Super 35 C. Technirama sequential exposure negative
D. Magnetic track CinemaScope E. 70mm F. Optical track CinemaScope
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As you can see from the illustration here, the Technirama format's dimension is 3 times larger than the 2 most common 35mm formats used in production today. Since each single frame of animation has been exposed three times in the large format Technirama sequential Technicolor process, that means each color frame is recorded into an area 9 times as large as the current 35mm film area. This large format negative was used then to create Technicolor printing elements for 35mm reduction 4-track magnetic sound CinemaScope 2.55 prints, optical sound CinemaScope 2.35 prints, or for enlargement onto 6-track 70mm 2.20 prints.

More often than not, the latter two formats were used due to the standards in theatrical equipment at the time. Many "average" theatres were only able to project films up to 2.35 in width due to the placement of the soundtrack on the margins of the film frame. Special 70mm theatres formatted the film down to 2.20, again because of the space needed for 6-track sound encoded onto the film prints. Having such a variety of film formats inevitably led to present day confusion as to what Sleeping Beauty's true aspect ratio really was. But in looking back at the original amount of filmed image on the negative, Disney was able to conclude that the film's 2.55:1 magnetic CinemaScope composition was the intended picture. Artists and animators had fully utilized the entire ultra-wide space, so in choosing the 2.55 ratio, not only was there more background art exposed, but character animation as well. Disney proclaims this is the first time Sleeping Beauty's entire image has been viewed by audiences.



Another subjective issue was, artistically, what the filmmaker's original intent would be given a particular flaw. The Restoration Committee, comprised of members such as animator Andreas Deja, feature animation film and digital camera technician Joe Jiuliano, animation director Dave Bossert, and film format and restoration expert Theo Gluck, deliberate the appropriate action when spotting mistakes like paint pops (one cel will contain an erroneously placed object, etc.) or paint crawl, which is the "blotchiness" that can result from unevenly dried cel paint. If these artifacts detract enough from the viewing experience, they are cleaned up; even still, care is taken to not overdo the edits, lest the film begin to look too "artificial" and tinkered with by modern tools. Grain is an issue in animation just as it is in any other film medium. Unlike live action film, where too much digital noise reduction results in "waxy" looking human characters, taking the grain out of the picture on an animated film sufficiently cleans it up. Being so flat and graphic, film grain is little more than noise on a hand-drawn animated feature. Thus, grain from the negative has been consciously edited out during restoration.



Sleeping Beauty also underwent a complete audio restoration for its Blu-ray debut. Locating and utilizing the original 35mm 3-track recordings of the score from 1958, the full sessions - false starts, alternate takes, and all - were digitized into computer audio files. First, the files were edited down to the scoring that is used in the final film. Then it underwent restoration - anything from equalization to excising noise and artifacts like track hiss and popping. Handing the audio off to Terry Porter, an Academy Award nominated sound mixer, the music and dialogue was transformed into a lovely and rather engulfing lossless 7.1 mix unique to the Blu-ray release.

Utterly breathtaking in magnitude, Sleeping Beauty's from-scratch restoration process has paid off in spades. The Blu-ray Disc is garnering praise from all angles - whether it's the casual viewer, the home theatre enthusiast, or audio/video critics and media outlets. The amount of care put into this release is highly admirable, and sets a standard for not only Disney's future animated feature releases, but for studios worldwide. Kudos to the Restoration Committee and Sara Duran-Singer for accomplishing such a feat.

Huge thanks also go to Deciazulado for his technical input on Sleeping Beauty, without which this article would not be half of what it is!
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Old 01-13-2009, 01:56 PM   #7
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i own it and i thing the entire thing is incredible. what a job of restoration that was. the picture quality is incredible and the audio quality is just as incredible. make sure you play the dragon in the dungeon extra the audio is incredible in 7.1 what a great use of surrounds to show direction in audio. the grand canyon segment was beautiful considering it's age. disney really out did themselves with this product!
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Ya...SB looked absolutely stunning in 1080. I'm anxious to see how Pinocchio will look come March. The non-anamorphic transfer will hurt but what do you expect for a film made 70 years ago when that type of technology was unheard of. I never collected the Disney dvd's. So I'm going to try and get all the classics on Blu.
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At least every other time I watch SB, I'll watch the Grand Canyon feature first, just like the jolly folk of yesteryear did when it was in theaters. It really is stunning on blu.
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