I just got an OPPO BD103! Question for you?

[Robbieedr]

Hi everyone,

Love the community here at Bluray.com!

Right to the point. I just upgraded to a 65inch led Insignia calibrated by the geek squad, a Pioneer Elite SC-75 and a 9.1 home theater system. Pictures to follow soon!

My question is, I have a PS3, PS4 and now an OPPO. My wife and I tested this bad boy with the Amazing Spiderman 2 bluray and God we can't tell a difference!

Am I doing something wrong? Or should I send this back and replace to the Darbee edition?

I have it all plugged in correctly straight to the receiver from the HDMI 1 which is the Marvell processing video.

I will be putting tonight the new turtles movie and we will see how it flows.

Any help is appreciated!

[Icemouth]

[punisher]

the geek squad killed the tv.....

never let them calibrate your tv even for free.

[Naiera]

There isn't supposed to be a difference.

[Kryptonic]

There's not going to be much of a difference, if any on Blu-ray's. The big appeal of the Oppo is the DVD upconversion, audio and file capabilities, and build quality. The Darbee edition will add more "pop" to Blu-ray's.

EENY Technology stop presents: Darbee integration with OPPO DVD Player courtesy Home Theater Forum - YouTube

[solarrdadd]

for the most part, all of those machines should show pretty much the same. keep in mind that you have 30 days to send the oppo back for a full refund, minus the shipping back cost. if you have doubts, make sure to take advantage of that 30 day policy.

[Robbieedr]

Thank you everyone for the heads up! I did watched the Turtle movie today on it and it looked amazing! I will play with it for a couple more days and see how it feels!

Thank you!

[schan1269]

Blu Ray bits are Blu Ray bits.

Bits from a $50 player equal bits from a $500 player.

If you...

1. Only connected HDMI
2. Don't own SACD/DVD-A
3. Don't watch much DVD
4. Don't stream much.

You wasted your money on the Oppo.

(Regarding LCD in general. There are those of us that feel that every LCD needs a Darbee to be watchable)

[Tech-UK]

You are not wasting your money on a Oppo.

Top class support.
Top class upscaling (yes, superior scalers are available, but they are not integrated and cost around the same or more than an Oppo itself).
Solid build quality.
Guaranteed reference output (yes, all BD players should output exactly the
same, but it is not always the case).

You don't need a DVP for LCD. ("Those of us", meaning just you ).

To answer the OP's question, between the PS3, PS4 and Oppo it will be hard to impossible to see any difference between them, as all 3 are reference players.

The Oppo will have the advantage over the other two if using the analog outs for audio, but as schan1269 listed, if outputting audio over HDMI, there should be no difference, in audio quality.

[Dylan34]

To RobbieeDr. You want the machine to take exactly what's on the disc and display it bit for bit. The Oppo you purchased definitely does that. Now, about Darbee processing. My uncle has the Darblet and I borrowed it for a few days a couple of months ago to give it a test drive to see what all the hype is about. I personally enjoyed it on a low setting, and from what I understand about it, it brings out the high frequency detail that's already on the disc. It will not make a poorly mastered blu-ray or dvd look good because the Darbee is not creating information that's not there. I still haven't purchased one for myself yet because I'm waiting to see what's going to happen with the native 4k players next year but, it sure is tempting!!!

[Tech-UK]

If the Blu-ray producer wanted to 'bring out the high frequency detail', they would, and its called 'EE' (Edge Enhancement), the Darbee is redundant, and thus not needed to provide a natural looking picture.

If the OP wishes to test their players and see if any flaws are present, I would recommend the Spears & Munsil 2nd Edition test disc, this disc features test patterns that are used to evaluate the performance of a player.

As I said, all 3 players are reference, and it will only come down to playback compatibility.

[The Dragon]

Originally Posted by Tech-UK

You are not wasting your money on a Oppo.

Top class support.
Top class upscaling (yes, superior scalers are available, but they are not integrated and cost around the same or more than an Oppo itself).
Solid build quality.
Guaranteed reference output (yes, all BD players should output exactly the
same, but it is not always the case).

You don't need a DVP for LCD. ("Those of us", meaning just you ).

To answer the OP's question, between the PS3, PS4 and Oppo it will be hard to impossible to see any difference between them, as all 3 are reference players.

The Oppo will have the advantage over the other two if using the analog outs for audio, but as schan1269 listed, if outputting audio over HDMI, there should be no difference, in audio quality.

The Oppo delivers in many ways, however, you need to be versed in what YOU enjoy in your home viewing experience... ie, if you're an audio buff, your ear will be tuned to hear details that'll differentiate... Same goes for a person on the video tip.

Example: take a movie which you use for reference in audio, and one with video. Content you're extremely familiar with it's details. Compare on device you're accustomed with, then Oppo. Differences will stand out.

For me, I immediately noticed subtle details in the audio dynamics that were so much more, it was amazing. The film I used was The Matrix. As for video, I like to use the 240hz refresh on films that have a lot of CGI. For instance, Star Trek.. Of course, the 240 makes it look "live" or like a soap opera, a look some don't care for, however, the Oppo's detail is so great, you barely notice a difference with this feature on or off, on an LED TV. I believe you will not be disappointed one iota.

Also, disc loading times are the fastest, probably out of any machines.

My experience.

[Tech-UK]

Placebo is a powerful effect.

Although I am not going to question you because I don't know all of the facts with regards to your setup, what player did you previously own, was it correctly outputting video and audio, how was/is the equipment connected, is your setup calibrated, what, if anything has changed in your room, etc.

I agree with your last sentence with regards to loading times, I would be interested in seeing how all three of the mentioned players compare in terms of that. Pretty close is my guess.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Tech-UK

You are not wasting your money on a Oppo.

Top class support.
Top class upscaling (yes, superior scalers are available, but they are not integrated and cost around the same or more than an Oppo itself).
Solid build quality.
Guaranteed reference output (yes, all BD players should output exactly the
same, but it is not always the case).

You don't need a DVP for LCD. ("Those of us", meaning just you ).

To answer the OP's question, between the PS3, PS4 and Oppo it will be hard to impossible to see any difference between them, as all 3 are reference players.

The Oppo will have the advantage over the other two if using the analog outs for audio, but as schan1269 listed, if outputting audio over HDMI, there should be no difference, in audio quality.

It's funny though, I've just picked up a cheapie 2012 Panasonic to replace my 95 (selling it because I need the cash!) and even though it struggles with a few Spears and Munsil tests like the collection of obscure cadences and the rotating jaggies which the Oppo sailed through, the DVD upscaling is BETTER on the Panny. My DVD torture test is the non-anamorphic R1 DVD of The Thing, when the dog is bounding through the snow at the beginning. The way it bobs up and down resulted in some distracting 'scan line' looking artefacts on the Oppo, no matter whether it was set to 480i, 1080i or 1080p, but the motion is perfectly handled on the Panny.

The Oppo would also cause a V-shaped artefact in the single-pixel checkerboard in the S&M Image Cropping 24p pattern which I couldn't get rid of, not even on HDMI 2 which is supposed to be devoid of extraneous processing. The same pattern on the Panny is perfect, although if I play around with the Detail Enhancer (sharpening) then the exact same V-shaped pattern appears, which suggests that the MediaTek chip in the 9x series has some sort of undefeatable sharpening, never mind the undefeatable noise reduction of the main QDeo processor.

The Oppos are tremendously well engineered machines with superb analogue sound quality and they're awesome for playing back whatever files you may have on USB (the BDMV playback is handy and there's no Cinavia on the 9x series), but at the end of the day ones and zeros are ones and zeros, and as long as they're piped to my TV and amplifier unmolested, that's all I need right now.

[Andrew Woo]

I'm owning a BDP-93 (region free) for over 3 1/2 years now. To me it's the best, most reliable and easy-to-handle player I've ever had. I've been through quite a few before (Sony, LG, Samsung, Phillips) and none of them comes close to the Oppo in terms of quality and reliability.

[Naiera]

Originally Posted by schan1269

Blu Ray bits are Blu Ray bits.

Bits from a $50 player equal bits from a $500 player.

This is not true. Either player may F up on chroma upsampling, which will give a minor difference in picture quality. It is also quite possible to make a player with DNR and EE that can't be switched off, so never assume.

[Tech-UK]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

It's funny though, I've just picked up a cheapie 2012 Panasonic to replace my 95 (selling it because I need the cash!) and even though it struggles with a few Spears and Munsil tests like the collection of obscure cadences and the rotating jaggies which the Oppo sailed through, the DVD upscaling is BETTER on the Panny. My DVD torture test is the non-anamorphic R1 DVD of The Thing, when the dog is bounding through the snow at the beginning. The way it bobs up and down resulted in some distracting 'scan line' looking artefacts on the Oppo, no matter whether it was set to 480i, 1080i or 1080p, but the motion is perfectly handled on the Panny.

The Oppo would also cause a V-shaped artefact in the single-pixel checkerboard in the S&M Image Cropping 24p pattern which I couldn't get rid of, not even on HDMI 2 which is supposed to be devoid of extraneous processing. The same pattern on the Panny is perfect, although if I play around with the Detail Enhancer (sharpening) then the exact same V-shaped pattern appears, which suggests that the MediaTek chip in the 9x series has some sort of undefeatable sharpening, never mind the undefeatable noise reduction of the main QDeo processor.

The Oppos are tremendously well engineered machines with superb analogue sound quality and they're awesome for playing back whatever files you may have on USB (the BDMV playback is handy and there's no Cinavia on the 9x series), but at the end of the day ones and zeros are ones and zeros, and as long as they're piped to my TV and amplifier unmolested, that's all I need right now.

Interesting.

I wonder if the 103/105 features those issues.

[Dylan34]

Originally Posted by Tech-UK

Interesting.

I wonder if the 103/105 features those issues.

I read that the hdmi 1 input on the 103 has dnr that you can't turn off. Why is OPPO doing this with their players now?

[Kryptonic]

Originally Posted by Dylan34

I read that the hdmi 1 input on the 103 has dnr that you can't turn off. Why is OPPO doing this with their players now?

lolwut?

[Dylan34]

Originally Posted by Kryptonic

lolwut?

Yeah, either hdmi 1 or 2 has noise reduction that can't be shut off. What's that about?