The bigger letdown - Transformers audio or Die Hard PG-13 edition - Blu-ray Forum

xmositox · 09-05-2007, 03:40 PM

There have been numerous threads of how people are upse at the "rated-theatrical" release of "Live Free or Die Hard". We want the Un-rated version damn it.

Recently it was made aware to HD-DVD followers that Transformers would not have TrueHD.

What do you guys think is more of a let down. No TrueHD on "Transformers" or the rated version of "Live Free or Die Hard".

Dadds · 09-05-2007, 03:48 PM

Well it has to be die hard because I cant watch Transformers anyway. And bsides not having True HD only ruins the other side.

MrVorhees · 09-05-2007, 03:49 PM

of course not getting transformers!

DIE HARD: AT LEAST we get the movie!!
but transformers: we get nothing at all!

w_tanoto · 09-05-2007, 03:49 PM

never cared for transformer, not because its hd dvd exclusive, but not my type of movies (I hate movies about robots). Die hard-rated version is more of my concern. I prefer they release uncut version

Sane · 09-05-2007, 04:16 PM

What terrible choice to make!

As much as I like good quality audio, edited movies is the greater evil for me.

Sane · 09-05-2007, 04:19 PM

wanted to add - that I assumed the poll is more about TrueHD vs. edited movie content rather than a specific example (I know Transformers isn't coming on Blu-ray, but if it were I'd opt out of TrueHD over an edited version of "Live Free or Die Hard").

jedivball · 09-05-2007, 04:38 PM

That's an easy one. Getting the rated version of Die Hard. I won't get any version of transformers so I don't care about the audio.

It's just nice to seeing the hd folks getting screw twice. Once with the transformers audio and second for owning an hd dud player

Algernon · 09-05-2007, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dadds

Well it has to be die hard because I cant watch Transformers anyway. And bsides not having True HD only ruins the other side.

agreed

AT-AT Luvah · 09-05-2007, 04:41 PM

But LF or Die Hard is not an 'edited' movie. The 'version' we are getting is the intended theatrical release. An unrated version would technically be the 'edited up' release.

Copywriter · 09-05-2007, 04:46 PM

I didn't like the Transformers movie. I grew up with them, but I thought the movie was a 4 out of 10. My wife liked it (proof that the romance vibes were going out).

So, Die Hard is the bigger letdown.

BluBerry · 09-05-2007, 04:50 PM

Seriously, enough about Transformers! It's time to get over it. So it's not on Blu-Ray--you can still get it on standard DVD. One film is certainly not going to save HD-DVD's holiday season, which by all accounts they've already lost.

Bombthroat · 09-05-2007, 07:57 PM

Die Hard is the bigger let down for me since Transformers isn't available on Blu-ray.

If both were available on Blu-ray it would be another story.

LynxFX · 09-05-2007, 08:01 PM

Transformers. Die Hard is at least what was released in theaters and despite the lower rating I felt it was fine. I always have DH1,2,3 if I want the cursing.

UlicBelouve · 09-05-2007, 08:02 PM

I think the biggest letdown is not getting an actual story in the Transformers movie. In 20 years, they couldn't create anything better?

ReduxInflux · 09-05-2007, 08:04 PM

ha ha ha. thats hilarious. so people are sore over buying the theatrical version of die hard that they saw and liked? as opposed to a movie with inconsequential dialogue and cgi 'blood' that they haven't yet seen? who are you people?

u_nick · 09-05-2007, 08:06 PM

I voted for the TF audio.

Loved both movies as they were presented to me. Some digitzed blood in DH4? Eh, I can live without it if i had to. If I could get it, great. If not, i twont kill the movie. Picture and audio being what they are though, not having optimal audio when i know its an option that could easily be implemented on another format, its kinda frustrating.

The fact that we arent getting TF though means i cant get too upset about it. SImply because I know a Bluray release would have eben proper.

kowhite · 09-05-2007, 08:20 PM

I vote for TrueHD, since I still don't think this pg-13 thing will pan out to begin with.

bluraydog · 09-05-2007, 08:21 PM

i voted rated because anything that has to do with transformers has nothing to do with me since i dont and never will own a hddud player.

BStecke · 09-05-2007, 08:28 PM

Even though, as a Blu-only supporter, I won't be getting Transformers either way, it represents the dumbing down of HD content to cater to the lowest denominator and shows the damage HD DVD is doing to film on high def disc. Plus, when this does inevitably become available on Blu-ray, it's a good chance this is the version we'll get. I'm disappointed in Die Hard, but it was still a good movie presented with great picture and sound.

red_5ive · 09-05-2007, 08:31 PM

As much of an audio nut as I am, I'm going with Die Hard on this one. A lack of TrueHD will not make me appreciate Transformers in a different or better light (although I loved the movie). But, I would love to see a version of Die Hard 4 closer to the original.

View Poll Results: What do you guys think is more of a let down?
Not having True HD (Transformers)	39	47.56%
Getting the Rated Version (Live Free or Die Hard)	43	52.44%
Voters: 82. You may not vote on this poll

09-05-2007, 03:40 PM	#1
xmositox Active Member Member since:May 2007	The bigger letdown - Transformers audio or Die Hard PG-13 edition There have been numerous threads of how people are upse at the "rated-theatrical" release of "Live Free or Die Hard". We want the Un-rated version damn it. Recently it was made aware to HD-DVD followers that Transformers would not have TrueHD. What do you guys think is more of a let down. No TrueHD on "Transformers" or the rated version of "Live Free or Die Hard".

09-05-2007, 08:28 PM	#19
BStecke Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jun 2007 4K collection:182 Blu-ray collection:567 DVD collection:1 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:6	Even though, as a Blu-only supporter, I won't be getting Transformers either way, it represents the dumbing down of HD content to cater to the lowest denominator and shows the damage HD DVD is doing to film on high def disc. Plus, when this does inevitably become available on Blu-ray, it's a good chance this is the version we'll get. I'm disappointed in Die Hard, but it was still a good movie presented with great picture and sound. Last edited by BStecke; 09-05-2007 at 08:32 PM.

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09-05-2007, 03:48 PM	#2
Dadds Special Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:South NJ Blu-ray reviews:3	Well it has to be die hard because I cant watch Transformers anyway. And bsides not having True HD only ruins the other side.

09-05-2007, 03:49 PM	#3
MrVorhees Special Member Top contributor Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Castle Grayskull 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:572 Blu-ray reviews:2	of course not getting transformers! DIE HARD: AT LEAST we get the movie!! but transformers: we get nothing at all!

09-05-2007, 03:49 PM	#4
w_tanoto Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Hatfield, UK / Jakarta, Indonesia Blu-ray collection:37 Blu-ray reviews:47	never cared for transformer, not because its hd dvd exclusive, but not my type of movies (I hate movies about robots). Die hard-rated version is more of my concern. I prefer they release uncut version

09-05-2007, 04:16 PM	#5
Sane Active Member Member since:May 2007 Location:Ottawa, Canada	What terrible choice to make! As much as I like good quality audio, edited movies is the greater evil for me.

09-05-2007, 04:19 PM	#6
Sane Active Member Member since:May 2007 Location:Ottawa, Canada	wanted to add - that I assumed the poll is more about TrueHD vs. edited movie content rather than a specific example (I know Transformers isn't coming on Blu-ray, but if it were I'd opt out of TrueHD over an edited version of "Live Free or Die Hard").

09-05-2007, 04:38 PM	#7
jedivball Active Member Member since:Oct 2006 Location:Illinois 4K collection:9 Blu-ray collection:318 DVD collection:11 Digital collection:12 Trading Score:1	That's an easy one. Getting the rated version of Die Hard. I won't get any version of transformers so I don't care about the audio. It's just nice to seeing the hd folks getting screw twice. Once with the transformers audio and second for owning an hd dud player

09-05-2007, 04:41 PM	#9
AT-AT Luvah Junior Member Member since:Jul 2007 Blu-ray collection:1	But LF or Die Hard is not an 'edited' movie. The 'version' we are getting is the intended theatrical release. An unrated version would technically be the 'edited up' release.

09-05-2007, 04:46 PM	#10
Copywriter Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Vegas Baby, Vegas	I didn't like the Transformers movie. I grew up with them, but I thought the movie was a 4 out of 10. My wife liked it (proof that the romance vibes were going out). So, Die Hard is the bigger letdown.

09-05-2007, 04:50 PM	#11
BluBerry Active Member Member since:Jun 2007	Seriously, enough about Transformers! It's time to get over it. So it's not on Blu-Ray--you can still get it on standard DVD. One film is certainly not going to save HD-DVD's holiday season, which by all accounts they've already lost.

09-05-2007, 07:57 PM	#12
Bombthroat Active Member Member since:Aug 2007	Die Hard is the bigger let down for me since Transformers isn't available on Blu-ray. If both were available on Blu-ray it would be another story.

09-05-2007, 08:01 PM	#13
LynxFX Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2007	Transformers. Die Hard is at least what was released in theaters and despite the lower rating I felt it was fine. I always have DH1,2,3 if I want the cursing.

09-05-2007, 08:02 PM	#14
UlicBelouve Senior Member Member since:May 2007 Location:Menomonee Falls, WI Blu-ray collection:95 Blu-ray reviews:1	I think the biggest letdown is not getting an actual *story* in the Transformers movie. In 20 years, they couldn't create anything better?

09-05-2007, 08:04 PM	#15
ReduxInflux Expert Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:orange county, ca Blu-ray reviews:22 Trading Score:3	ha ha ha. thats hilarious. so people are sore over buying the theatrical version of die hard that they saw and liked? as opposed to a movie with inconsequential dialogue and cgi 'blood' that they haven't yet seen? who are you people?

09-05-2007, 08:06 PM	#16
u_nick Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jan 2007 Location:CT, US Trading Score:27	I voted for the TF audio. Loved both movies as they were presented to me. Some digitzed blood in DH4? Eh, I can live without it if i had to. If I could get it, great. If not, i twont kill the movie. Picture and audio being what they are though, not having optimal audio when i know its an option that could easily be implemented on another format, its kinda frustrating. The fact that we arent getting TF though means i cant get too upset about it. SImply because I know a Bluray release would have eben proper.

09-05-2007, 08:20 PM	#17
kowhite Active Member Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:119 Blu-ray collection:727 DVD collection:3 Trading Score:65	I vote for TrueHD, since I still don't think this pg-13 thing will pan out to begin with.

09-05-2007, 08:21 PM	#18
bluraydog Active Member Member since:Jun 2007	i voted rated because anything that has to do with transformers has nothing to do with me since i dont and never will own a hddud player.

09-05-2007, 08:31 PM	#20
red_5ive Blu-ray Champion Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:The 'state' of Southern California Home Theater Gallery:18 4K collection:364 Blu-ray collection:996 DVD collection:4 Blu-ray reviews: 2 Trading Score:1	As much of an audio nut as I am, I'm going with Die Hard on this one. A lack of TrueHD will not make me appreciate Transformers in a different or better light (although I loved the movie). But, I would love to see a version of Die Hard 4 closer to the original.

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