User Reviews on this site are ridiculous.

[NathanDrakeFan]

These User Reviews are getting out of control. A typical review I see goes like this:
Movie
I liked this movie. I thought it was good.
PQ
Looks great
Audio
Makes You feel like you're in the movie theater
Extras
There's a lot of them


Come on, 95% of user reviews have no real substance. If you like a movie, give reasons why it was good. You're opinion is invalid as a reviewer unless you state the reasons that you thought it was good.
Much like a persuasive essay, being against a side,but giving no reasoning for it will get you nowhere.Go into more detail on the picture quality as well. State the aspect ratio, amount of grain, depth to the image, fine object detail, encode used for the transfer.
Also with the audio and extras, go into detail.
There are so many amateur reviewers on here and it applies to pretty much any movie or game site that allows user reviews.I'm sorry, but unless you get your act together, your so-called "review" is useless.

[shinseiRomeo]

I agree with you 100% and have posted my thoughts on the current review system in the feedback forum.


https://forum.blu-ray.com/feedback-f...ck-system.html

[iam1bearcat]

OP, i understand your complaints and issues with user reviews, however, coming from my perspective, when it comes to PQ and AQ, i know nothing about the technicalities of these things, so what would i write?

i generally assume that the assigned number score indicates the greatness of it.

1 - crap
2 - a lot like crap
3 - good, possibly true to source, gets the job done
4 - great, but not reference quality, but still very enjoyable
5 - reference quality, truly stellar

but describing grain content, depth, deep blacks and other technicalities i cannot do because i have no knowledge of them.
so my reviews cannot have them.

and most people who do user reviews don't care that much. why do they do reviews at all then? no idea but that's usually how it works. i just wish the mods would get rid of the user reviews that are two sentences and simplistic, childish "this sucks", "this sounds and looks awesome!!!!!" and the best, "people who like this movie are stupid and like wasting their life" those are the worst of the worst.

[shinseiRomeo]

Originally Posted by iam1bearcat

and most people who do user reviews don't care that much. why do they do reviews at all then? no idea but that's usually how it works. i just wish the mods would get rid of the user reviews that are two sentences and simplistic, childish "this sucks", "this sounds and looks awesome!!!!!" and the best, "people who like this movie are stupid and like wasting their life" those are the worst of the worst.

I agree and disagree. I spend many time on my reviews and do so exclusively for this site. Each movie usually takes me two hours to review, and I critique A/V, extras, and the movie overall. My goal is to provide an opinion on the BD experience as a whole, not just the movie in general.

As far as the two sentence reviews, I agree. Clean 'em out as they do nothing. It's just spam in my book.

[Tom Hiddleston]

This thread is stupid. It's boring.

[SonOfArathorn]

I disagree, I like this thread. I think it is good.

[DeathByAsh'aman]

Meh. Generally disagree.

I make an educated guess on whether or not I might like a movie based on the ratio of good reviews to bad. More often than not I could care less about the details of why you liked or disliked a movie/BD. If I end up not liking the movie/quality, no biggie. Its not like reviews are chemo literature for cancer patients.

[NathanDrakeFan]

Originally Posted by DeathByAsh'aman

Meh. Generally disagree.

I make an educated guess on whether or not I might like a movie based on the ratio of good reviews to bad. More often than not I could care less about the details of why you liked or disliked a movie/BD. If I end up not liking the movie/quality, no biggie. Its not like reviews are chemo literature for cancer patients.

You do understand that when doing a review, a person must be informative and back up his/her opinion with reasoning.Otherwise it is invalid and does not deserve to be read.
Like my example, You came away knowing absolutely nothing about the movie and what makes it good or bad. That kind of review is so general,it could be used for anything.
If I could state a few more examples:

Example:Your having a discussion/debate/argument with someone over a movie.Let's just use Spiderman 3 for example.
wrong discussion:
Person A:It sucks so bad
Person B:How does it suck? It is so good!
Person A:No it isn't
Person B:Yes it is


Correct Discussion:
Person A:I felt that the movie was not only a disappointment, but bad in general because first of all, the whole Spiderman, Goblin, and Sandman issue was very shrunkated. Venom and Sandman were rushed in there.They didn't belong.Not enough time to know them. There's also the "emo" scene which did not fit in Spiderman at all,was a sad attempt at humor, and was way out of character. I do know about the symbiote being the reason for that, but it did not need to be seen. It added nothing to the movie. Also, they got Venom's character all wrong and the special effects are pretty unremarkable."

Person B:"I can see where you're coming from.I, however, thought it was good. The "emo" scene you mentioned may have been odd in spiderman, but I found it to be entertaining and added much needed humor to the film.The conflict between Peter and Harry was great. You got to see the characters develop and Peter and Harry's relationship grow throughout the movies. Now that Harry thinks Peter killed his father, it ends up being a very "real", very "human conflict. And while I agree that all 3 villains felt forced, and that is a serious flaw in this film, it was handled as best as it could within a 2 hour 15 minute movie. Some the fight scenes, like peter and harry's first fight with harry as the new goblin, and the fight in Harry's house, were very nicely coreographed.It was also very touching with the Sandman.You really do get the sense that he really isn't a bad guy and what happened to Harry at the end. It shows the brotherly love that they had for each other"

[DeathByAsh'aman]

Originally Posted by NathanDrakeFan

You do understand that when doing a review, a person must be informative and back up his/her opinion with reasoning.Otherwise it is invalid and does not deserve to be read.
Like my example, You came away knowing absolutely nothing about the movie and what makes it good or bad. That kind of review is so general,it could be used for anything.
If I could state a few more examples:

Example:Your having a discussion/debate/argument with someone over a movie.Let's just use Spiderman 3 for example.
wrong discussion:
Person A:It sucks so bad
Person B:How does it suck? It is so good!
Person A:No it isn't
Person B:Yes it is


Correct Discussion:
Person A:I felt that the movie was not only a disappointment, but bad in general because first of all, the whole Spiderman, Goblin, and Sandman issue was very shrunkated. Venom and Sandman were rushed in there.They didn't belong.Not enough time to know them. There's also the "emo" scene which did not fit in Spiderman at all,was a sad attempt at humor, and was way out of character. I do know about the symbiote being the reason for that, but it did not need to be seen. It added nothing to the movie. Also, they got Venom's character all wrong and the special effects are pretty unremarkable."

Person B:"I can see where you're coming from.I, however, thought it was good. The "emo" scene you mentioned may have been odd in spiderman, but I found it to be entertaining and added much needed humor to the film.The conflict between Peter and Harry was great. You got to see the characters develop and Peter and Harry's relationship grow throughout the movies. Now that Harry thinks Peter killed his father, it ends up being a very "real", very "human conflict. And while I agree that all 3 villains felt forced, and that is a serious flaw in this film, it was handled as best as it could within a 2 hour 15 minute movie. Some the fight scenes, like peter and harry's first fight with harry as the new goblin, and the fight in Harry's house, were very nicely coreographed.It was also very touching with the Sandman.You really do get the sense that he really isn't a bad guy and what happened to Harry at the end. It shows the brotherly love that they had for each other"

Ok, I think "reviews" are pointless then. All I need is a quick up or down vote. To me its very simple, its a movie I'm not buying a car, so I don't need a novella to make my decision. If other people do then I'm glad that there are people who enjoy writing them.

As for whether or not I find the one liner "reviews" helpful? Honestly I just look at the number rating so 1 sentence is 2 sentences too long

[Marcus Wright]

This Thread is great.

Conent quality - 4/5
Very good. Informative.

Understandability - 3/5
Overall, undrestandable subject matter and posts, but could have been clearer.

Overall 3.5/5
Worth a look.

Now, does this review suck, doesnt it?

[Tom Hiddleston]

Originally Posted by SonOfArathorn

I disagree, I like this thread. I think it is good.

I was being sarcastic. Someone said that they hate two sentence reviews so I was giving a two sentence review of the thread. I do not have any strong feelings about the thread either way.

[Troy73]

Originally Posted by Marcus Wright

This Thread is great.

Conent quality - 4/5
Very good. Informative.

Understandability - 3/5
Overall, undrestandable subject matter and posts, but could have been clearer.

Overall 3.5/5
Worth a look.

Now, does this review suck, doesnt it?

Yesser that's what I'm talkin about. Keep them there reviews simple n sweet for us slow an unedu-macated folk....Ya Here!!! We don't need no fancy $2 dollar words to tell us them movies ain't no good and such......

[Suntory_Times]

Originally Posted by DeathByAsh'aman

Meh. Generally disagree.

I make an educated guess on whether or not I might like a movie based on the ratio of good reviews to bad. More often than not I could care less about the details of why you liked or disliked a movie/BD. If I end up not liking the movie/quality, no biggie. Its not like reviews are chemo literature for cancer patients.

The real issue imho is that most people rate PQ, AQ and special features in accordance to what they think of a film. Look at Let the Right One In, a person givesd its transfer a .5/5. Its far from perfect, eg: banding is present, but otherwise it is a splendid blu-ray. I originally posted brief reviews but started posting proper reviews, before I started my blog. I however was brief, but was to the point and whilst I didn't describe everything that was right/wrong I did do some of that, I know go into more detail and prefer doing so.

If anyone wants to see my actual reviews pm me and i'll send you my review blob address (I can't post it here due to forum rules).


Personally I think the rating system is ridiculous. Post anything bad against a very popular film (eg: TDK video transfer) and you will get unjust negatives put against your review. I found this simply a poor system with little good able to come from it (once again people post based on whether or not they liked the film, and don't deffrentiate the transfer from that). This is actually why I started my blog.

[stevo4264]

Originally Posted by Suntory_Times

SNIP (sorry)

The real issue imho is that most people rate PQ, AQ and special features in accordance to what they think of a film.

If anyone wants to see my actual reviews pm me and i'll send you my review blob address (I can't post it here due to forum rules).
Personally I think the rating system is ridiculous. Post anything bad against a very popular film (eg: TDK video transfer) and you will get unjust negatives put against your review. This is actually why I started my blog.

Yes I 100 percent agree with you, I have read some of your reviews and regard them superior to the so called professional reviews here, the other problem I have noticed is that the reviewers both professional and amateur have small screen sizes and so will never notice a lot of screen Anomalies that are hidden by a small screen.

[DeathByAsh'aman]

Originally Posted by Suntory_Times

The real issue imho is that most people rate PQ, AQ and special features in accordance to what they think of a film. Look at Let the Right One In, a person givesd its transfer a .5/5. Its far from perfect, eg: banding is present, but otherwise it is a splendid blu-ray. I originally posted brief reviews but started posting proper reviews, before I started my blog. I however was brief, but was to the point and whilst I didn't describe everything that was right/wrong I did do some of that, I know go into more detail and prefer doing so.

If anyone wants to see my actual reviews pm me and i'll send you my review blob address (I can't post it here due to forum rules).


Personally I think the rating system is ridiculous. Post anything bad against a very popular film (eg: TDK video transfer) and you will get unjust negatives put against your review. I found this simply a poor system with little good able to come from it (once again people post based on whether or not they liked the film, and don't deffrentiate the transfer from that). This is actually why I started my blog.

I agree that giving a 5/5 for PQ when they should have rated movie 5/5 is misleading, however I have yet to run into any problems looking at only the ratings instead of reading lengthy reviews. YMMV

[jw]

Originally Posted by stevo4264

Yes I 100 percent agree with you, I have read some of your reviews and regard them superior to the so called professional reviews here, the other problem I have noticed is that the reviewers both professional and amateur have small screen sizes and so will never notice a lot of screen Anomalies that are hidden by a small screen.

So does the average consumer, There is a small percentage that is actually graced with a large screen and another percentage that have a screen too big for the room they use.
I base this of alot of what I have read

[SonOfArathorn]

Originally Posted by mmgirl

I was being sarcastic. Someone said that they hate two sentence reviews so I was giving a two sentence review of the thread. I do not have any strong feelings about the thread either way.

Um, I know. I'm not an idiot, I was playing along.

[Tom Hiddleston]

Originally Posted by SonOfArathorn

Um, I know. I'm not an idiot, I was playing along.

Yeah I got that.

[Suntory_Times]

Originally Posted by stevo4264

Yes I 100 percent agree with you, I have read some of your reviews and regard them superior to the so called professional reviews here, the other problem I have noticed is that the reviewers both professional and amateur have small screen sizes and so will never notice a lot of screen Anomalies that are hidden by a small screen.

Thankyou for the compliment. It is very nice to see that people are reading and enjoying them/finding them usefull. With regards to screen size it all has to do with viewing distance. Personally for 2d footage I have watched countless footage on my 92" screen and 50" screen (my projector is ot 3d capable), and when the screen is the same relative size (as your sitting closer/further away) I find the issues of the transfer to be just as noticable.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by NathanDrakeFan

These User Reviews are getting out of control. A typical review I see goes like this:
Movie
I liked this movie. I thought it was good.
PQ
Looks great
Audio
Makes You feel like you're in the movie theater
Extras
There's a lot of them


Come on, 95% of user reviews have no real substance. If you like a movie, give reasons why it was good. You're opinion is invalid as a reviewer unless you state the reasons that you thought it was good.
Much like a persuasive essay, being against a side,but giving no reasoning for it will get you nowhere.Go into more detail on the picture quality as well. State the aspect ratio, amount of grain, depth to the image, fine object detail, encode used for the transfer.
Also with the audio and extras, go into detail.
There are so many amateur reviewers on here and it applies to pretty much any movie or game site that allows user reviews.I'm sorry, but unless you get your act together, your so-called "review" is useless.

There is a flip side to that coin: when you do an educative and thoroughly objective review,
some members rate you ZERO on your review(s)!

Soooooooo, what's the objective to make a good one?

And Happy New Year!

Bob