The Man with the Golden Arm - June 22, 2015

[MifuneFan]

I just noticed there's a page up for The Man with the Golden Arm, starring Frank Sinatra, being released by Network on June 22nd. This is a great film, and I hope it's true.

Update: Confirmed for June 22nd!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Man-Golden-A...8&keywords=blu

Credit also to rapta, who I noticed mentioned it in the Network thread a few days back

[IanSchultz23]

I really hope this to be true, been meaning to see this for years and been waiting for a decent copy.

[rapta]

Yeah fingers crossed it's a decent transfer...I wonder where they picked it up from?

[BigNickUK]

Up for preorder

http://networkonair.com/shop/2204-ma...626801748.html

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-M...lu-ray/129553/

[L'armée des ombres]

Great news...let's hope they release it in the correct Aspect ratio

[MifuneFan]

Awesome. Looks like it might be region free as well

[RICKBONDOO7]

Thank You Network !!! I have the German Blu , but No Widescreen, Quality ok . Want this one for sure !! Great Movie ! Frankie Machine is Excellent !! Happy 100 Frank !!!

[callmestu]

Originally Posted by L'armée des ombres

Great news...let's hope they release it in the correct Aspect ratio

The NETWORK description states its "a stunning new High Definition transfer, in its as-exhibited theatrical aspect ratio", listing 1.66:1 under details.

Is that considered the correct aspect ratio? A quick search on Google suggested that the OAR was 1.85:1...

[CinemaScope]

Well it is Frank Sinatra's centenary year, we should be getting a fair few of his films released.

[baheidstu]

Originally Posted by callmestu

The NETWORK description states its "a stunning new High Definition transfer, in its as-exhibited theatrical aspect ratio", listing 1.66:1 under details.

Is that considered the correct aspect ratio? A quick search on Google suggested that the OAR was 1.85:1...

1.66:1 might have been how it was originally exhibited in the UK.

[sjt]

Correct. In the mid-1950s, the US settled for 1.85 as the norm for non-widescreen presentation: but in the UK - and indeed throughout Europe - 1.66 was the standard aspect ratio for spherical as opposed to anamorphic films. The OAR which Network mentions is "as-exhibited" all right, but only for us in Europe. Trouble is, it's an American film, presumably made with 1.85 presentation in mind (though quite possibly shot in open matte 1.33). This is exactly the same AR malarkey that underpins Criterion's pick-and-mix versions of "On the Waterfront"

[EddieLarkin]

The film may not have one true AR. Torsten Kaiser, who did the HD master, had this to say about the framing (caps follow):

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/topi...8#entry3953125

Network are presumably using this same master, which is 1.37:1, but I suppose they might be doing their own crop.

As for 1.66:1, I'd just like to add that whilst the ratio was popular in Europe, it never caught on in the UK (or Italy for that matter) after it was first used during the first years of widescreen. By 1956/7, 1.75:1 became the dominant ratio, until 1967 onward, were 1.85:1 became dominant (which even as far back as 1957 was more frequently used than 1.66:1 was).

Further information, including documented proof of the above, can be found here:

http://www.3dfilmarchive.com/home/wi...-documentation
(UK section)

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/topi...0#entry4111107

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/topi...3#entry4111458

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/topi...3#entry4129557

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/topi...6#entry4137329

[MifuneFan]

Down to 6 GBP on Amazon

[rapta]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Down to 6 GBP on Amazon

Also in the 2 for £10 offer as is The Flying Deuces.

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by rapta

Also in the 2 for £10 offer as is The Flying Deuces.

Nice, didn't notice that

[PatrynXX]

Originally Posted by baheidstu

1.66:1 might have been how it was originally exhibited in the UK.

as it was pointed out that indeed 1:66 is how it was shown.. which ended up being ironic since later on Europe CRT tv's tended to be rectangle while American ones were still square...
it sounds similar to the times of movies being different but the same length (which I don't understand yet but sometime someone or if I have the time I'll look it up) like the Last Emperor has different times outside the USA but same length the fact I can get this for around $7 right now out of the UK to the USA total speaks volumes about how expensive things are in the USA right now and with around 800 blu rays I can wait for it to arrive.

$2.99 fyi plus shipping (Out of Stock price, probably so they can create a bigger order and save money)