is HVD a new competitor to Blu-ray? - Blu-ray Forum

thunderhawk · 03-09-2005, 02:42 PM

What is HVD?
http://www.optware.co.jp/english/what_040823.htm

found quote

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Six companies including CMC Magnetics Corporation, FUJI PHOTO FILM CO., LTD., Nippon Paint Co., Ltd., Optware Corporation, Pulstec Industrial Co., Ltd. and TOAGOSEI CO., LTD., advocates of "Holographic Versatile Disc (HVD)" announced today to form "HVD Alliance" to accelerate the development of HVD, to develop a marketplace and to promote this revolutionary technology and products. A technical committee, TC44 to discuss the standardization of "Holographic Versatile Disc (HVD)" was approved at 88th Ecma International General Assembly on December 9th 2004. The first TC44 meeting will be held in Tokyo on March 3rd and 4th.

HVD Alliance, through its activities to provide a venue for the technical discussions and information exchange among the disk manufacturers, material makers, device manufacturers and tester makers which agree with the purport of this organization, accelerates the development of HVD, develops the marketplace and promotes this technology, thus contributes to the sound development of the storage industry.Alliance companies advance final preparations towards the official launch of "HVD Alliance" in this coming spring.

Holographic recording technology
Holographic recording technology records data on discs in the form of laser interference fringes, enabling existing discs the same size as today's DVDs to store more than one terabyte of data (200 times the capacity of a single layer DVD), with a transfer rate of over one gigabit per second (40 times the speed of DVD). This approach is rapidly gaining attention as a high-capacity, high-speed data storage technology for the age of broadband.

Collinear technology
Optware's exclusive development of the collinear technology is part of its effort to make holographic recording technology practical. A patented technology originally proposed by Optware founder and CTO Hideyoshi Horimai, collinear holography combines a reference laser and signal laser on a single beam, creating a three-dimensional hologram composed of data fringes. This image is illuminated on the medium using a single objective. Using this breakthrough mechanism, Optware dramatically simplified and downsized the previously bulky and complicated systems required to generate holograms. Further enhancements were achieved with Optware's exclusive servo system. The introduction of this mechanism enabled reduced pickup size, elimination of vibration isolators, high-level compatibility with DVD and CD discs and low-cost operation, effectively obliterating the remaining obstacles to full commercialization.

What if ... in the future... HVD gets released?

Will it crush Blu-ray, if Blu-ray wins?
Can we say its a war between Blu-ray, HD-DVD and HVD?

Just wonderin...

Gorkab · 03-09-2005, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by thunderhawk

What is HVD?
http://www.optware.co.jp/english/what_040823.htm

found quote

Quote:

Six companies including CMC Magnetics Corporation, FUJI PHOTO FILM CO., LTD., Nippon Paint Co., Ltd., Optware Corporation, Pulstec Industrial Co., Ltd. and TOAGOSEI CO., LTD., advocates of "Holographic Versatile Disc (HVD)" announced today to form "HVD Alliance" to accelerate the development of HVD, to develop a marketplace and to promote this revolutionary technology and products. A technical committee, TC44 to discuss the standardization of "Holographic Versatile Disc (HVD)" was approved at 88th Ecma International General Assembly on December 9th 2004. The first TC44 meeting will be held in Tokyo on March 3rd and 4th.

HVD Alliance, through its activities to provide a venue for the technical discussions and information exchange among the disk manufacturers, material makers, device manufacturers and tester makers which agree with the purport of this organization, accelerates the development of HVD, develops the marketplace and promotes this technology, thus contributes to the sound development of the storage industry.Alliance companies advance final preparations towards the official launch of "HVD Alliance" in this coming spring.

Holographic recording technology
Holographic recording technology records data on discs in the form of laser interference fringes, enabling existing discs the same size as today's DVDs to store more than one terabyte of data (200 times the capacity of a single layer DVD), with a transfer rate of over one gigabit per second (40 times the speed of DVD). This approach is rapidly gaining attention as a high-capacity, high-speed data storage technology for the age of broadband.

Collinear technology
Optware's exclusive development of the collinear technology is part of its effort to make holographic recording technology practical. A patented technology originally proposed by Optware founder and CTO Hideyoshi Horimai, collinear holography combines a reference laser and signal laser on a single beam, creating a three-dimensional hologram composed of data fringes. This image is illuminated on the medium using a single objective. Using this breakthrough mechanism, Optware dramatically simplified and downsized the previously bulky and complicated systems required to generate holograms. Further enhancements were achieved with Optware's exclusive servo system. The introduction of this mechanism enabled reduced pickup size, elimination of vibration isolators, high-level compatibility with DVD and CD discs and low-cost operation, effectively obliterating the remaining obstacles to full commercialization.

What if ... in the future... HVD gets released?

Will it crush Blu-ray, if Blu-ray wins?
Can we say its a war between Blu-ray, HD-DVD and HVD?

Just wonderin...

HVD's great, but it's currently under development so it's not a war between Blu-Ray, HD-DVD and HVD. It will be it if the HVD really goes on ! 8)

thunderhawk · 03-10-2005, 06:20 PM

yeah but...

would you like it, when you saw that Blu-ray won, and then 2 years later hVD won?

zombie · 03-11-2005, 07:26 AM

Blu-ray and maybe HD-DVD will be the next standard(s) of home video. I highly doubt HVD will catch on.

AV_Integrated · 03-16-2005, 07:47 PM

I, for one, strongly believe that holographic data storage is the next, next generation. We will have BD/HD for many years, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if HVD comes along in a few years and knocks both down.

It really depends on cost and marketing, but keeping in mind that the forcast is that HVD will have first generation discs at 200GB. That is what we may see on BD in several years. But, it is pretty easy to picture putting your entire music collection in a uncompressed format onto a single disc, or to create a video server that holds more than one HD movie.

A terrabyte seems like a lot until you try to transfer your entire DVD collection, at normal quality, onto a drive. 1TB = about 120 movies or so. Not really that many if you are a serious videophile.

Video editing can quickly chew up 40+ GB for shorter clips in DV format. I can't imagine how much would be used by HD editing, but would think that HVD would allow entire HD editing sessions to be backed up for archival purposes.

Can't say if BD or HD-DVD will go away because of HVD, but it's hard to say for sure what the acceptance of BD & HD-DVD even will be at this time.

tron3 · 04-14-2005, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by thunderhawk

What if ... in the future... HVD gets released?

Will it crush Blu-ray, if Blu-ray wins?
Can we say its a war between Blu-ray, HD-DVD and HVD?

Just wonderin...

By that time, blu-ray, or hd-dvd will have too much market share. blu-ray will be costly enough - HVD will cost 2-3 times more. You see that selling just because you can put all your movies on one disc? I think not. Firstly, there is the copyright issue. HVD is the perfect choice if current HD TV resolution ever becomes 2 to 4 times denser than it is now.

You see that happening? Neither do I. HDTV is here to stay. Maybe in another 50-75 years we will see it. It is plausible that we may very well be the 2nd generation of "golden age" tv. As of right now, too much money has been invested by TV stations in hardware to support HD. HVD will serve other uses.

Gorkab · 04-14-2005, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tron3

Quote:

Originally Posted by thunderhawk

What if ... in the future... HVD gets released?

Will it crush Blu-ray, if Blu-ray wins?
Can we say its a war between Blu-ray, HD-DVD and HVD?

Just wonderin...

By that time, blu-ray, or hd-dvd will have too much market share. blu-ray will be costly enough - HVD will cost 2-3 times more. You see that selling just because you can put all your movies on one disc? I think not. Firstly, there is the copyright issue. HVD is the perfect choice if current HD TV resolution ever becomes 2 to 4 times denser than it is now.

You see that happening? Neither do I. HDTV is here to stay. Maybe in another 50-75 years we will see it. It is plausible that we may very well be the 2nd generation of "golden age" tv. As of right now, too much money has been invested by TV stations in hardware to support HD. HVD will serve other uses.

Yeah, will wait and see and the consumers too, I don't think they will buy a movie once to buy it again 2 years after in an other format... :roll:

georgir · 04-19-2005, 12:23 PM

the problem with this holographic storage is it is a LONG way in the future... i doubt we'll be seeing it in less than 10 years.
i wouldn't mind getting it earlier though. i wont feel pity for Blu-ray or hd-dvd

vick vega · 05-04-2006, 08:31 PM

Do you know if Optware is a pubically traded company

159753 · 05-04-2006, 08:49 PM

It will probably be for the next generation of HD-TV, UHDTV at 7,680 × 4,320 pixels. You forgot an uncompressed HVD will hold 3.9 terabytes.

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03-10-2005, 06:20 PM	#3
thunderhawk Moderator Member since:Jul 2004 Location:Belgium	yeah but... would you like it, when you saw that Blu-ray won, and then 2 years later hVD won?

03-11-2005, 07:26 AM	#4
zombie Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:May 2004 Trading Score:865	Blu-ray and maybe HD-DVD will be the next standard(s) of home video. I highly doubt HVD will catch on.

03-16-2005, 07:47 PM	#5
AV_Integrated Senior Member Member since:Jan 2005	I, for one, strongly believe that holographic data storage is the next, next generation. We will have BD/HD for many years, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if HVD comes along in a few years and knocks both down. It really depends on cost and marketing, but keeping in mind that the forcast is that HVD will have first generation discs at 200GB. That is what we may see on BD in several years. But, it is pretty easy to picture putting your entire music collection in a uncompressed format onto a single disc, or to create a video server that holds more than one HD movie. A terrabyte seems like a lot until you try to transfer your entire DVD collection, at normal quality, onto a drive. 1TB = about 120 movies or so. Not really that many if you are a serious videophile. Video editing can quickly chew up 40+ GB for shorter clips in DV format. I can't imagine how much would be used by HD editing, but would think that HVD would allow entire HD editing sessions to be backed up for archival purposes. Can't say if BD or HD-DVD will go away because of HVD, but it's hard to say for sure what the acceptance of BD & HD-DVD even will be at this time.

04-19-2005, 12:23 PM	#8
georgir Active Member Member since:Mar 2005	the problem with this holographic storage is it is a LONG way in the future... i doubt we'll be seeing it in less than 10 years. i wouldn't mind getting it earlier though. i wont feel pity for Blu-ray or hd-dvd

05-04-2006, 08:31 PM	#9
vick vega Banned Member since:Apr 2006 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	Do you know if Optware is a pubically traded company

05-04-2006, 08:49 PM	#10
159753 Junior Member Member since:Sep 2005	It will probably be for the next generation of HD-TV, UHDTV at 7,680 × 4,320 pixels. You forgot an uncompressed HVD will hold 3.9 terabytes.

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