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Old 03-08-2013, 10:31 AM   #1
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Hi all,
Firstly, please don't flame me for using such old technology (I do have a small 23" 3D monitor too).

I have been using the Xtreme 3D shutter glasses connected via a dongle to my PC (connected to my Infocus X1 projector) and have enjoyed watching sbs movies in 3D on the big screen for several years. Unfortunately, my Xtreme 3D shutter glasses (and extra pairs) have finally died a death and I'm currently just watching all my 3D Blu-rays on my 23" 3D monitor. The picture looks great but I really miss the scale of the big screen (even if the image is at a lower resolution). I've considered buying a new Xtreme 3D system and importing it from the US but I also had another thought. Could I use Universal active glasses with my Infocus X1 projector via the PC? I noticed that the Xtreme 3D dongle has a mini VESA connection and so I was wondering if I could get a Universal pair of active shutter glasses that would work using an IR emitter connected to the dongle?

I've done some research and have found the following information...

1) The VESA connection on the dongle is for an IR emitter
2) The active shutter glasses would need a blue line code in order to sync with Stereoscopic player. (I believe I need an earlier version of Stereoscopic Player but another software called sView may also work. (although I tried to install sView on my laptop but it wouldn't run).

I have to add that I want this setup to watch 3D movies in sbs avi format only and not for gaming. I have been able to watch 3D movies for several years with my other glasses.

So is it worth me trying to get some Universal active 3D glasses to work with my system or should I just import another Xtreme 3D kit and wait a couple of weeks for delivery?

Thanks for any advice.

Gae

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Old 03-10-2013, 04:56 AM   #2
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Hmm, I don't know nearly enough about the details, so I will probably not be of great help to you. First, I am surprised that sView doesn't run on your PC; have you tried to find a solution for that already? If not, that is where I would start.

As far as I understand, you are running the box in order to half your framerate at 720p and have alternate fields (L, R) send to your InFocus, right? In that case, a stand-alone option of glasses+dongle+software may not work with your VIP-box. Have you tried contacting the manufacturer and ask them for a seperate set of glasses, or a compatibility chart for other glasses?

Lastly, other fora, like AVS may help, as well as 3dvision-blog. Good luck!
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Old 11-13-2013, 02:20 PM   #3
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I've decided to make the upgrade to 3D as my TV could do with an upgrade anyway, I've looked up active vs passive and I think I'm set on active. The only problem being that I wear glasses (never been able to fit contacts) and I don't know if anyone's had an issue with the active style glasses being uncomfortable to wear with other glasses? I'm ok with the glasses they give you at the theater but I'm thinking the extra weight and battery on the active glasses may be a problem.

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Old 11-13-2013, 07:30 PM   #4
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My missus wears glasses, we use the Panasonic TY-ER3D5MA. She doesn't have any major problems but says they are a little heavy and the bridge does make it a little difficult fit comfortably over her glasses.

I have just weighed them, including the battery they come in at 35g.
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Old 11-23-2013, 01:09 PM   #5
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Does anybody know whether Samsung 3D glasses are compatible with the more recent Panasonic plasma TVs like the TX-P65ST60E? I mean the ones using active technology.
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Old 11-23-2013, 04:06 PM   #6
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If you just want to get 3D capability as cheaply as possible the Samsungs are great. If you're willing to pay more for better comfort and durability, I'd recommend the Panasonics.

Personally I like the Panasonics best. If you're into 3D enough to actually be buying 3D glasses it makes sense to me to grab a pair of the Panasonics as your "primary glasses" and a pair of Samsungs for either friends, family or kids.

For people who just want to dabble in 3D the Samsungs are about as risk free an investment as you can get.
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Old 11-23-2013, 07:57 PM   #7
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If you just want to get 3D capability as cheaply as possible the Samsungs are great. If you're willing to pay more for better comfort and durability, I'd recommend the Panasonics.
Yeah, that's why I was asking. See, I got a low-end 46" Samsung, for which I bought a pair of 3D glasses particularly suited for people wearing glasses anyway. The Samsung is not really up to snuff 3D-wise, so I'm considering a 65" Panasonic plasma as long as they're still available.

However I'd like to continue the Samsung glasses (SSG-3700CR/XC) if at all possible, hence the question.
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Old 03-08-2014, 02:38 PM   #8
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I love my Active PS3 3D Glasses but now I found out I cant use them while watching 3D on my Sony 55W900A! I have to use the ones that came with my tv because the PS3 glasses aint compatible with my tv!!!!!! WTF Sony????
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Old 03-29-2014, 11:22 PM   #9
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I love my Active PS3 3D Glasses but now I found out I cant use them while watching 3D on my Sony 55W900A! I have to use the ones that came with my tv because the PS3 glasses aint compatible with my tv!!!!!! WTF Sony????
I got the same TV and found the same - I wonder why they went a different way. I mean it means little possibility of 3rd party glasses.
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Old 12-10-2014, 08:22 PM   #10
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What is the model of the Panasonic 3D glasses that keeps getting mentioned, and will they work with my Samsung F8500?
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Old 12-14-2014, 03:55 PM   #11
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What is the model of the Panasonic 3D glasses that keeps getting mentioned, and will they work with my Samsung F8500?
I *think* these are the ones:

http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/TY-ER3D4MU

I was a little unsure as well and rolled the dice. I got my pair for $25 on eBay and am pleased to report they work great with my Samsung E8000. I don't know if they'd work with your set but from what I gather after all the unclear articles I read back when I was looking, was that if you see that "FULL HD 3D" logo that it **should** be compatible.

Worst case, just make sure you buy them from a place that you can return them if they don't work. I had employees at a best buy just 4 months ago telling me that ONLY samsung glasses would work with samsung tvs. Now, we know that's not true but, proof that there is still a lot of confusion out there about our little niche.

http://www.fullhd3dglasses.com
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I *think* these are the ones:

http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/TY-ER3D4MU

I was a little unsure as well and rolled the dice. I got my pair for $25 on eBay and am pleased to report they work great with my Samsung E8000. I don't know if they'd work with your set but from what I gather after all the unclear articles I read back when I was looking, was that if you see that "FULL HD 3D" logo that it **should** be compatible.

Worst case, just make sure you buy them from a place that you can return them if they don't work. I had employees at a best buy just 4 months ago telling me that ONLY samsung glasses would work with samsung tvs. Now, we know that's not true but, proof that there is still a lot of confusion out there about our little niche.

http://www.fullhd3dglasses.com
Thanks, this helps. All the descriptions also only specify the manufacturer's tv's so I always found it iffy. I saw this as an open box item at best buy, but decided against since I couldn't tell if it would work. I wear glasses, so I need something that I can put over my glasses, hopefully these will do the job.
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Thanks, this helps. All the descriptions also only specify the manufacturer's tv's so I always found it iffy. I saw this as an open box item at best buy, but decided against since I couldn't tell if it would work. I wear glasses, so I need something that I can put over my glasses, hopefully these will do the job.
No problem. I wear glasses too. They fit better with my rectangular pair vs. my roundish pair.
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Old 03-28-2015, 04:45 PM   #14
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I recently bought a great new TV, being the Samsung UE55HU7500 which is a 4K Ultra HD 3D LED television. So far I'm very happy about it and I'm watching a lot of 3D blu-rays now that I acquired the technology for it.



Since the TV came with free 3D glasses from Samsung, I'm currently using the following active 3D glasses: Samsung SSG 5100 GB



I was wondering whether the active 3D glasses you use (brand, price, and so on) affects the quality of the 3D viewing.

I'm quite a newbie on the subject of 3D so I was wondering about this. Do high-end 3D glasses also exist? If you have a Samsung TV, should you always stick to the same brand when it comes to buying 3D glasses for viewing?

Buying a 3D TV and 3D blu-rays has been quite an investment so I wanna be sure that I can experience it TO THE FULLEST!

All comments and suggestions are welcome of course!

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I recently bought a great new TV, being the Samsung UE55HU7500 which is a 4K Ultra HD 3D LED television. So far I'm very happy about it and I'm watching a lot of 3D blu-rays now that I acquired the technology for it.



Since the TV came with free 3D glasses from Samsung, I'm currently using the following active 3D glasses: Samsung SSG 5100 GB



I was wondering whether the active 3D glasses you use (brand, price, and so on) affects the quality of the 3D viewing.

I'm quite a newbie on the subject of 3D so I was wondering about this. Do high-end 3D glasses also exist? If you have a Samsung TV, should you always stick to the same brand when it comes to buying 3D glasses for viewing?

Buying a 3D TV and 3D blu-rays has been quite an investment so I wanna be sure that I can experience it TO THE FULLEST!

All comments and suggestions are welcome of course!
First of all...CONGRATS!! What a beaut!! I'm saving for a 4K upgrade myself...not sure if I want to stick with Sony and go passive or go Samsung, stick with active, and the curved screen (which I like). Worried about ghosting though on active 3D 4K sets vs passive 3D 4D sets. Let me know what the 3D is like on your set and your impressions.

I would stick with Samsung brand 3D glasses for your Samsung tv. There may be cheaper 3D glasses that may be compatible with your set. That may be worth looking into...if they are cheap. But I don't know if there are any higher end 3D compatible glasses out there for your set...nor if I trust their performance on your set.

Congrats again and nicely done! Let us know how you like the 3D. Enjoy it!
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Old 03-29-2015, 08:00 AM   #16
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Thanks for your reply and for sharing your ideas!

I'm very happy with the TV, most of all because its size is much bigger than my previous one which was a Sony Brava 42' screen. The Sony Brava had slightly deeper (nicer) black levels, though > Sony and Panasonic are known for that.

Well, to be honest I'm not completely sure whether I made a "best buy" with my Samsung TV since I'm not a professional on this issue. A good friend and also an enthusiastic salesman both recommended this screen to me. All the online reviews about this new model are raving as well. I like the esthetics of the Samsung CURVED screen too but several people told me that it only offers an optimal viewing experience when you sit right in front of the screen. Watching from a side angle might affect the viewing experience in a negative way. Since one of my two couches has a side angle, my choice was easy. Here in Europe, the curved screens are a bit cheaper than the non-curved, which also made me think that the traditional non-curved are better and the ones to stick to. Since I have almost 2000 movies on DVD as well, it's a true pleasure to see that my current set also automatically upgrades the image quality of those. The image of my DVD's looks sharper but the larger, "fatter" subtitles remain a little bit annoying once you're used to the "thinner", sharper subtitles that blu-ray discs offer.

On the subject of 3D: I've never been a fan of 3D viewing in movie theatres so until recently I also didn't feel the need to have a 3D screen at home. I must say that I was very pleasantly surprised when I first saw a 3D movie on my new screen, and it quickly became a new addiction My family (also my wife and my 5 y/o daughter) really enjoy watching animated movies so it's great to have a 3D screen so we can watch all together

On the subject of "ghosting" and "crosstalk": I'm not really familiar with that either but I read many blu-ray reviews here and on other movie websites so I know more or less what it means. Sometimes, what I read in reviews really CONFUSES me and makes me wonder whether I have a good 3D screen or not. For example, I read in the Epic 3D blu-ray review here on blu-ray.com: If your TV set is prone to ghosting issues, the cluttered forest scenes might give you some slight problem, but otherwise crosstalk is minimal. How on earth do I know whether my set in particular is "prone to ghosting issues"???

I can tell that some 3D blu-rays offer a better quality than others. I have enough 3D blu-rays (over 50 already) to see the difference. However, I also think that reviews of 3D are very subjective. Personally, I like the 3D blu-rays that offer a constant added depth experience more than the ones that try to impress with (often gimmicky) pop-out effects. A few of my personal 3D blu-ray favourites sofar are "Brave", "Maleficent", "Prometheus" and "Frozen". The Sammy movies that everyone raves about didn't really impress me that much, maybe also because the movies really suck, I don't know. A bad movie with "great pop-outs" still doesn't turn a bad movie into a good one! To me, the content of the movie is always superior to its presentation.

One last note: The 3D review of Disney's "Beauty and the Beast" received very praising comments here on blu-ray.com but on my screen it showed A LOT of ghosting. I'm wondering whether:
a) I bought a bad copy?
b) My screen is "prone to ghosting"???
c) Maybe my viewing position/distance is not right/optimal?

As you can see, I still have many questions, being a newbie in the 3D world
I hope that more users will read my topic and post their ideas here.
In the meanwhile, I really enjoy my new set!!!

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First of all...CONGRATS!! What a beaut!! I'm saving for a 4K upgrade myself...not sure if I want to stick with Sony and go passive or go Samsung, stick with active, and the curved screen (which I like). Worried about ghosting though on active 3D 4K sets vs passive 3D 4D sets. Let me know what the 3D is like on your set and your impressions.

I would stick with Samsung brand 3D glasses for your Samsung tv. There may be cheaper 3D glasses that may be compatible with your set. That may be worth looking into...if they are cheap. But I don't know if there are any higher end 3D compatible glasses out there for your set...nor if I trust their performance on your set.

Congrats again and nicely done! Let us know how you like the 3D. Enjoy it!
I agree Taygan, I have 3 3d displays, led, plasma and projection, I use the same glasses for all 3 , ( ssg 3100 ) and they work great, I never heard of a certain brand working better than others, the difference in price I believe is only cosmetic and not worth the steeper price point, IMO.
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Make sure to test swapping sync between l/r or r/l. It will let you know if it ghosting because of the way the eyes are trying to sync.
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One last note: The 3D review of Disney's "Beauty and the Beast" received very praising comments here on blu-ray.com but on my screen it showed A LOT of ghosting. I'm wondering whether:
a) I bought a bad copy?
b) My screen is "prone to ghosting"???
c) Maybe my viewing position/distance is not right/optimal?
My (Panasonic Plasma Active 3D) TV is sometimes prone to ghosting but I didn’t see any when I watched Beauty And The Beast last night, it looked outstanding.

It won’t be anything to do with your copy of the film. Viewing position may make a difference but most ghosting is down to the display (and the brightness/sharpness/contrast settings). For example, Doom 3 is unplayable in 3D on my PS3 because of the ghosting, but people with passive 3D sets have reported no issues.
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I recently bought a great new TV, being the Samsung UE55HU7500 which is a 4K Ultra HD 3D LED television. So far I'm very happy about it and I'm watching a lot of 3D blu-rays now that I acquired the technology for it.



Since the TV came with free 3D glasses from Samsung, I'm currently using the following active 3D glasses: Samsung SSG 5100 GB



I was wondering whether the active 3D glasses you use (brand, price, and so on) affects the quality of the 3D viewing.

I'm quite a newbie on the subject of 3D so I was wondering about this. Do high-end 3D glasses also exist? If you have a Samsung TV, should you always stick to the same brand when it comes to buying 3D glasses for viewing?

Buying a 3D TV and 3D blu-rays has been quite an investment so I wanna be sure that I can experience it TO THE FULLEST!

All comments and suggestions are welcome of course!
The Sammy glasses that came with my 51" Plasma genuinely sucked. After a few months of hating on them I finally broke down and purchased two pair of 3DActive glasses. These are awesome glasses and I would recommend them without reservation.

I truly believe that if more people would take the time to invest in a quality pair of active 3D glasses, their opinion of 3D technology might change for the better.

That said, before buying make sure they are compatible with your model TV.
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