BigDaddy, audio question regarding players

[JimShaw]

BigD

I am considering purchasing a Denon DVD-A1UDCI only because I can pick it up for less than $1,000 and it still has warranty.
http://usa.denon.com/us/Product/Page...f-8da0f4de0482

I would be getting rid of my Marantz BD8002.

It is in the area of audio where I need your thought...

If one's receiver is doing all the work and the player is only streaming, does it really matter the quality of DACs and processing in the player vs another if they are pretty good to begin with?

Would changing over from my Marantz to the Denon (which has better DACs and processing) give me any noticeable audio improvement to make the purchase worth it? There definitely was a difference when I changed over from my Marantz SR7002 receiver to Denon's 5308 but would there be by swapping out players?

I know this is something that should be tested to see if there is a difference but I can't test it. Once I purchase, I own and the Denon can't be returned if there isn't a noticeable difference. So, I am asking an experts opinion before doing anything.




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[Big Daddy]

There is no question that the Denon players has a few advantages over the Marantz player. I have summarized the differences in the following table:

Denon-Marantz.jpg

Is it worth $1,000? It is a question that you will have to answer. If SACD/DVD-A, BD-Live, and Bragging Rights are important to you, go ahead and buy it.

I believe the new Oppo BDP-93 at $499 is a better alternative.

[JimShaw]

Originally Posted by Big Daddy

There is no question that the Denon players has a few advantages over the Marantz player. I have summarized the differences in the following table:

Attachment 29109

Is it worth $1,000? It is a question that you will have to answer. If SACD/DVD-A, BD-Live, and Bragging Rights are important to you, go ahead and buy it.

I believe the new Oppo BDP-93 at $499 is a better alternative.

BigD

Once again you have helped.

From your chart, looks like audio is equal. All the other stuff is not that important to me except maybe the Ethernet connection.

Oppo?? Interesting? I have been reading the posts regarding the player. You think the Oppo's audio can be better or equal to the Marantz?

Also, does a player really help in audio if the receiver is doing the work?

[Big Daddy]

Originally Posted by JimShaw

BigD

Once again you have helped.

From your chart, looks like audio is equal. All the other stuff is not that important to me except maybe the Ethernet connection.

Oppo?? Interesting? I have been reading the posts regarding the player. You think the Oppo's audio can be better or equal to the Marantz?

Also, does a player really help in audio if the receiver is doing the work?

The most important component that determines the quality of audio is the digital to analog chip. If the receiver does all the work, the player becomes less significant.

The Oppo BDP-93 is probably better than Marantz. There is a new Oppo BDP-95 due in February 2011 for about $1,000 that may be better than the Denon.

[JimShaw]

Originally Posted by Big Daddy

The most important component that determines the quality of audio is the digital to analog chip. If the receiver does all the work, the player becomes less significant.

The Oppo BDP-93 is probably better than Marantz. There is a new Oppo BDP-95 due in February 2011 for about $1,000 that may be better than the Denon.

It is always good to talk to you about my upgrading. I'll look at the Oppo-95 when it arrives.

A BIG thanks to you for your wisdom.


JimShaw

[Big Daddy]

Originally Posted by JimShaw

It is always good to talk to you about my upgrading. I'll look at the Oppo-95 when it arrives.

A BIG thanks to you for your wisdom.


JimShaw

There is some information available on the BDP-95 player.

http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-b...-Features.aspx

[JimShaw]

Originally Posted by Big Daddy

There is some information available on the BDP-95 player.

http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-b...-Features.aspx

That is amazing. The Oppo-95 looks as good as the Denon DVD-A1UDCI for what I want.

New Oppo-95 about $1,000.00
New DVD-A1UDCI about $4,500.00 and not as up to date as the Oppo

No brainier, you are correct.


Thanks

[JimShaw]

I have just registered to be notified when the 95 is to be released.


thanks

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by JimShaw

I have just registered to be notified when the 95 is to be released.


thanks

The Oppo BDP-95 Universal BD player is the way to go Jim!

It has Balanced XLR connections as well.

@ http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-95/

[JimShaw]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

The Oppo BDP-95 Universal BD player is the way to go Jim!

It has Balanced XLR connections as well.

@ http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-95/

LOTR

Glad to hear from you. I had e-mailed you with no response. I wondered if I had the wrong address?, you were on vacation?, even dead?. Really glad your back.

One question: the 95 over the 93 even though I will not be using the multi channel outputs. I have heard the dollar increase for the 95 was mainly for all the upgraded 7.1 outputs??

BigDaddy has convinced me away from using the multi channel system back to HDMI with Audyssey

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by JimShaw

LOTR

Glad to hear from you. I had e-mailed you with no response. I wondered if I had the wrong address?, you were on vacation?, even dead?. Really glad your back.

One question: the 95 over the 93 even though I will not be using the multi channel outputs. I have heard the dollar increase for the 95 was mainly for all the upgraded 7.1 outputs??

BigDaddy has convinced me away from using the multi channel system back to HDMI with Audyssey

1. If you don't need the Analog Multichannel outputs with better DACS, stay with the 93.

2. If you can't make use of the XLR balanced connections, stay with the 93.

3. Big Daddy is right!

*** You can get the Sony BDP-S570 Blu-ray player that also plays SACDs for $139!

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- Jim, how's Audyssey from your Denon 5308 receiver?
- Any solution that was found for your high speaker's crossovers?
- Did you get a mic stand with boom?
- Are you spending your money wisely?

Cheers,
Bob

P.S. Sorry Jim, it's been a while regarding my emails and for few unusual reasons.

[JimShaw]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

1. If you don't need the Analog Multichannel outputs with better DACS, stay with the 93.

2. If you can't make use of the XLR balanced connections, stay with the 93.

3. Big Daddy is right!

*** You can get the Sony BDP-S570 Blu-ray player that also plays SACDs for $139!

____________________________________________

- Jim, how's Audyssey from your Denon 5308 receiver?
- Any solution that was found for your high speaker's crossovers?
- Did you get a mic stand with boom?
- Are you spending your money wisely?

Cheers,
Bob

P.S. Sorry Jim, it's been a while regarding my emails and for few unusual reasons.

I don't listen to SACDs, then maybe keep the Marantz BD8002? Or do you think the 93 would be a better player in regards to audio than the Marantz.

Love the 5308

Chris (the founder of Audyssey) has helped. The crossover for the surround backs are now down to 90Hz, surrounds 110Hz, fronts 220Hz, center 150Hz. The fronts are still high BUT I still get a much, much fuller and better sound through the room with the 5308 than I did with the Marantz SR7002. So, I am not that worried. Chris thinks there is an acoustical problem with my room. I will keep working on it.

Spending my money wisely? Probably not. I would be spending better if the 93 will work better than the 95 and much more wisely if my Marantz BD8002 is better than the 93.

Your thoughts

[LordoftheRings]

Keep your Marantz BD8002 and keep your money in the bank!

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Jim, some info that can be useful for you (and others too):

@ http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...ostcount=34331

==> Just click on the link: The Paradigm Group's critique of pivoting drivers for in-wall/in-ceiling speakers.