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Old 04-16-2011, 09:48 PM   #1
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Hey guys just need some pro advice. i am upgrading some components in my HT, but budget is an issue, i have already upgraded my projector, now i was wondering if i should upgrade my old HK AVR310 receiver to a Denon AVR-689, or should i upgrade my velodyne VDR12 sub (had enough of the popping sound!) to an SVS 21-39 PC PLUS first??

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Hey guys just need some pro advice. i am upgrading some components in my HT, but budget is an issue, i have already upgraded my projector, now i was wondering if i should upgrade my old HK AVR310 receiver to a Denon AVR-688, or should i upgrade my velodyne VDR12 sub (had enough of the popping sound!) to an SVS 21-39 PC PLUS first??
Thats a denon model that Im not too familiar with. I have the 790 but dont think I have ever heard of the 688? If budget is key you could get a 790 or 791 for under 500 now but if your saying you are having issues with your sub popping I would think about fixing that first. How much can you get for the 688
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the popping is a manufacture defect and cannot be fixed...the amp is $350 (used)...sorry the denon is a 689
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Old 04-16-2011, 11:09 PM   #4
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Hey guys just need some pro advice. i am upgrading some components in my HT, but budget is an issue, i have already upgraded my projector, now i was wondering if i should upgrade my old HK AVR310 receiver to a Denon AVR-689, or should i upgrade my velodyne VDR12 sub (had enough of the popping sound!) to an SVS 21-39 PC PLUS first??
You have a vary nice Home Theater nametab

If it were me i would replace the sub first to solve the issue you have & eliminate the popping. then when you go to upgrade the receiver Just make sure the new one has Pre-outs I see you have an Adcom amp already !
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Old 04-16-2011, 11:36 PM   #5
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You have a vary nice Home Theater nametab

If it were me i would replace the sub first to solve the issue you have & eliminate the popping. then when you go to upgrade the receiver Just make sure the new one has Pre-outs I see you have an Adcom amp already !
thanks for the nice comment blue!

ya the popping sound occurs only at high volumes - which sucks...i guess the amp bottoms out in the sub and cuts off...otherwise the sub is really good...but is the SVS 21-29 PC Plus a better sub than this one?!?
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Really nice place namtab69 , regarding the velodyne why don`t you try to contact them to see what can they do ??? If it is a manufacture defect , you got nothing to loose on the the amp i`m with Blue , Pre-outs all the way
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Really nice place namtab69 , regarding the velodyne why don`t you try to contact them to see what can they do ??? If it is a manufacture defect , you got nothing to loose on the the amp i`m with Blue , Pre-outs all the way
thanks man! i think its too late to call velodyne its been over a year now so i dont think they will bother with me...as for the amp yes for sure the new amp will have pre outs
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Regarding the Velodyne if it was me i would be a pain in the a$$ or cry over the phone saying that there subs are great and make a real nice statement , to see if they budge . I have a friend of mine who had problems with is Panny and he spoke to them and instead of buying a new tv or having is repaired for a ridiculous price ( over 600$ with taxes ) he is only paying 125$
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Regarding the Velodyne if it was me i would be a pain in the a$$ or cry over the phone saying that there subs are great and make a real nice statement , to see if they budge . I have a friend of mine who had problems with is Panny and he spoke to them and instead of buying a new tv or having is repaired for a ridiculous price ( over 600$ with taxes ) he is only paying 125$
thanks for the advice...i sold the sub as is... and just to let you guys knw i went with the svs sub and this thing is a beast...so i am quite happy...although i did get the 20-39, i might sell it cause i found a really good deal on a PB12 plus/2 so lets see (man when will this madness end...lol) will keep u guys updated

tests: the SVS sub is really good, in movies i give it 9/10 but for music i give it about 7/10. reason for that is, its too light...it has a lot of power, but it only weighs about 50lbs. so on the hard pounding notes it seems to be vibrating a lot on hardwood floor. i will need to put a piece of carpet under it i think. but once again my hats off to my polk 505. its just an amazing sub and for the price you can't go wrong with it. i have matched the 505 up with the svs. the polk is in the front right, and the svs back left. i might need to play around with the positioning a bit more, but this seems best to me based on my room. i will post new pics soon.

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Old 04-27-2011, 12:57 AM   #10
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thanks for the advice...i sold the sub as is... and just to let you guys knw i went with the svs sub and this thing is a beast...so i am quite happy...although i did get the 20-39, i might sell it cause i found a really good deal on a PB12 plus/2 so lets see (man when will this madness end...lol) will keep u guys updated

tests: the SVS sub is really good, in movies i give it 9/10 but for music i give it about 7/10. reason for that is, its too light...it has a lot of power, but it only weighs about 50lbs. so on the hard pounding notes it seems to be vibrating a lot on hardwood floor. i will need to put a piece of carpet under it i think. but once again my hats off to my polk 505. its just an amazing sub and for the price you can't go wrong with it. i have matched the 505 up with the svs. the polk is in the front right, and the svs back left. i might need to play around with the positioning a bit more, but this seems best to me based on my room. i will post new pics soon.
ok so here is an update...i have already blown my svs 20-39 pc plus i cant believe how weak this thing is... i was testing tron with the first grid scene...my polk 505 held sooo strong and did not even bottom out...but the svs could not not handel it and the driver is toast unbelievable!!!!

now what guys!?!?!
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Old 04-27-2011, 12:59 AM   #11
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does anyone know how much for a svs driver???
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does anyone know how much for a svs driver???
I say replace the driver with a better one. Parts Express has great drivers for less then what you will get from SVS.

I have replaced the drivers of 2 of my subs with Dayton Aluminum Drivers That are so smooth & they sound great.

Just an example of one of the 3 drivers I have bought ~ http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=295-464
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does anyone know how much for a svs driver???
I believe the 20-39 PC+ driver can be replaced with the latest Plus 2.3 driver which costs $275, but check with SVS first. I had the 20-39 PC+ for 8+ years until I sold it to a friend of mine.
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hmmmm...so brent you think it'll be better with a driver other than svs...the driver you mentioned will it match up with the bash amp??
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I believe the 20-39 PC+ driver can be replaced with the latest Plus 2.3 driver which costs $275, but check with SVS first. I had the 20-39 PC+ for 8+ years until I sold it to a friend of mine.
thanks for the reply i will def look into this as well...
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hmmmm...so brent you think it'll be better with a driver other than svs...the driver you mentioned will it match up with the bash amp??
That would be up to you with the direction you take namtab

I think the driver I showed you is a better built driver then you had & will match up to any plate amp. All 3 of my subs are running off my XPA-5 amplifier so what is driving what ever you choose to put there will be fine.

If you see the post above from ManUTD you will be getting a better driver for much less
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That would be up to you with the direction you take namtab

I think the driver I showed you is a better built driver then you had & will match up to any plate amp. All 3 of my subs are running off my XPA-5 amplifier so what is driving what ever you choose to put there will be fine.

If you see the post above from ManUTD you will be getting a better driver for much less
Cheaper driver?..yes. Better driver?...I'm not so sure.
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That would be up to you with the direction you take namtab

I think the driver I showed you is a better built driver then you had & will match up to any plate amp. All 3 of my subs are running off my XPA-5 amplifier so what is driving what ever you choose to put there will be fine.

If you see the post above from ManUTD you will be getting a better driver for much less
ya i think i will take your advice and get the aftermarket driver...thanks for your help man! oh btw your display pic always scares the shit out of me
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Cheaper driver?..yes. Better driver?...I'm not so sure.
true... but if i got with the cheaper driver i can put it to my "Tron test" and see how it holds...if it blows its $138 blown...i took out the svs driver and man its built weak...light magnet, light weight...
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Cheaper driver?..yes. Better driver?...I'm not so sure.
Can you link me to the specs on that driver because they don't show any of them listed in your last link

Less expensive is more like it I think
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