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Old 02-17-2017, 11:01 AM   #1
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Old 02-22-2017, 01:01 PM   #2
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32.99 for the 4K Zavvi steelbook:

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Old 02-22-2017, 01:24 PM   #3
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Well it's not got a chance of showing a profit in cinemas so they have to make their money back somewhere. And what better way to do that than to set a prohibitive price point?
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Old 02-22-2017, 04:32 PM   #4
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Well it's not got a chance of showing a profit in cinemas so they have to make their money back somewhere. And what better way to do that than to set a prohibitive price point?
Yet it made over 200Mil in China and is already in profit lol
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Yet it made over 200Mil in China and is already in profit lol
No, you're wrong.. A film does not just have to gross more than it's budget to make profit. Hence Batman V Superman needing to do $800m to make money despite costing $280m. Below the line costs, advertising, marketing, cinema grosses, gross income particpants and distributors all add to costs. Great Wall needs a LOT more before it breaks even and it's not going to get it.
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Old 02-22-2017, 04:48 PM   #7
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No, you're wrong.. A film does not just have to gross more than it's budget to make profit. Hence Batman V Superman needing to do $800m to make money despite costing $280m. Below the line costs, advertising, marketing, cinema grosses, gross income particpants and distributors all add to costs. Great Wall needs a LOT more before it breaks even and it's not going to get it.
Come on then, give me figures. I'm not talking about BvS I'm talking about Great Wall. What was the budget, the marketing costs etc. Links too please.

Edit: I'm joking don't actually bother, it's not worth arguing over lol.

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Come on then, give me figures. I'm not talking about BvS I'm talking about Great Wall. What was the budget, the marketing costs etc. Links too please.

Edit: I'm joking don't actually bother, it's not worth arguing over lol.
Piss off then. But don't think you can spout "but its in profit" to other posters when it isn't. You're the one who was wrong, son.

It cost $150m. You thinking grossing $200m means its in profit just shows your ignorance of how box office figures work. I used a prominent film from last year to give an example. Not happy with it? I couldn't care less. Someone who needs to use an "lol" in all his replies isn't here to learn when they're wrong.
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Piss off then. But don't think you can spout "but its in profit" to other posters when it isn't. You're the one who was wrong, son.

It cost $150m. You thinking grossing $200m means its in profit just shows your ignorance of how box office figures work. I used a prominent film from last year to give an example. Not happy with it? I couldn't care less. Someone who needs to use an "lol" in all his replies isn't here to learn when they're wrong.
Blu-ray.com's must endearing member makes another friend. LOL.
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Piss off then. But don't think you can spout "but its in profit" to other posters when it isn't. You're the one who was wrong, son.

It cost $150m. You thinking grossing $200m means its in profit just shows your ignorance of how box office figures work. I used a prominent film from last year to give an example. Not happy with it? I couldn't care less. Someone who needs to use an "lol" in all his replies isn't here to learn when they're wrong.
Ha ha thanks for the laugh dude
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I'm looking forward to watching this. Whilst the VFX look a bit ropey I'm a sucker for period action fantasy and creatures. I loved 47 Ronin and this is clearly in a similar vein. The 3D looks terrific too.
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Come on then, give me figures. I'm not talking about BvS I'm talking about Great Wall. What was the budget, the marketing costs etc. Links too please.

Edit: I'm joking don't actually bother, it's not worth arguing over lol.
Since you ask...

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hea...se-epic-956396

As a Chinese-US co-production the studio only gets 43% of the Chinese box-office (for US pictures it's 25% at best), which means the $170m it made in China (not $200m) only equates to a $73.1m return to the studio on a film that cost at least $150m and had the biggest marketing campaign of the year in China, the film's biggest market. The studio only gets 55% of the US gross back (that's $11.8m to date - just a little more than they spent on TV ads for just two weeks in the US) and probably less of the $75m it's made elsewhere - and there's been big marketing costs in all those other countries too.

The film's performed so far below expectations that the head of Legendary Pictures got axed from the company he created by its new owners (who said it needed to do $400-500m globally to be a hit).

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Regardless of it's financial and critical performance, I saw this on Monday and really enjoyed it. It's a big dumb fun action blockbuster and that's all that I wanted. I think there's some interesting stuff you can read into it on a more 'meta' level about China and it's relationship with the West, if you're that way inclined too. Plus, having recently seen Shin Godzilla on a plane, it's interesting to see compare and contrast how both Japan and China handle a movie about giant monster attacks.

I'm looking forward to watching it again and hoping for nice BTS stuff on the blu-ray.
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I'm looking forward to seeing this actually
Don't like that cover art though, and you'd think they'd make the title a bit more authentic looking considering it's a period film
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I have four free cinema tickets for Vue and the only thing I want to see at the moment is The Great Wall... but the Mrs and kids don't want to see it.
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I have two free tickets to the local Cineworld, but I also have a stinking cold. Hopefully I'll be able to catch it next week: Legendary usually do a decent line in monster movies (Godzilla, Pacific Rim) - though their entire upcoming slate seems to be nothing but monster movies at the moment (Skull Island, Godzilla 2, Pacific Rim 2, Jurassic World 2), so they're setting themselves up for decreasing returns artistically as well as commercially at this rate, and Zhang Yimou's form hasn't been that great lately. But it's so rare to get the chance to see a big Chinese picture on the big screen that I've still got my fingers crossed on this one.
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