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Old 03-12-2012, 03:03 AM   #1
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Default How well do you feel blu-ray limited editions have held their value?

I wanted to start a discussion topic to gauge how other users felt about this. I find it be something of an interesting topic mostly because of how one can look at value.

I think from a monetary value perspective only a very limited number of items which are considered super rare (the early Ironman steel for example) have really appreciated in value. Although some of that may just be based on my own inability to find pricing for other older limited sets.

I was mostly thinking about this from an interest stand point. As I assume most of us on these forums are fairly heavily into film and home theater as a hobby do you feel like limited sets have maintained their value as a interest grabber to showcase in a collection. Or, conversely has the sheer number of releases watered it down to the point where it is no longer an interest grabber and now has become just another shelf of discs?

any thoughts?
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Old 03-12-2012, 05:33 AM   #2
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I don't collect limited collector's sets of blurays besides steelbooks, so I don't know how their values have held up. But I think the majority of steelbooks have at least appreciated from their initial retail value.

How much they have appreciated by is a different story, as you won't find every steelbook going for Iron Man or John Rambo money. But I would be hard pressed to think of many that are worth less then when I bought them
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Old 03-14-2012, 12:15 AM   #3
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i am going to give you my 2 cets on this discussion.

i have a coworker who tried to sell me an old bottle for $400.00 said it was valued at $700.00. I am not a bottle collector so to me it was worthless because it was something i did not want.
how does this pertain to this discussion? it's like this, the only person that would find a Blu Ray dvd collectable of any value, would be someone who actually collects Blu Ray collectable sets. The average person on the street would just turn and walk away, no interest.
I will get collectables that mean something to me and i will keep them. But I do not have the thought at all to sell later on.
I know there are people who buy multiple SteelBooks thinking that they will rise in value as the years pass. Perhaps, but if another format comes out, who would be interested?
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Old 03-24-2012, 11:13 AM   #4
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i am going to give you my 2 cets on this discussion.

i have a coworker who tried to sell me an old bottle for $400.00 said it was valued at $700.00. I am not a bottle collector so to me it was worthless because it was something i did not want.
how does this pertain to this discussion? it's like this, the only person that would find a Blu Ray dvd collectable of any value, would be someone who actually collects Blu Ray collectable sets. The average person on the street would just turn and walk away, no interest.
I will get collectables that mean something to me and i will keep them. But I do not have the thought at all to sell later on.
I know there are people who buy multiple SteelBooks thinking that they will rise in value as the years pass. Perhaps, but if another format comes out, who would be interested?

That is not entirely true. These high valuable tag prices devides into 3 groups of people:
1. peope that buy special exclusive box sets/steelbooks in knowing that they are already extremely valuable will buy more than 1 copy of them just to sell them later on. In some cases their prices double themselves in just a week-month after the original release date.
2. people that buy the SEs in matter of selling them from the first place, so they order x quantities and not wait for the items to be OOP. They want to make profits out from collector's.
3. Collector's who buy an extra copy for trade or save it for a better time when it's OOP.

Personally I don't like to buy from the 2nd group I mentioned but I know certain people who usually sells their items for a good cost and not taking advantage of the collectors scene.
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Old 03-25-2012, 07:04 PM   #5
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of your 3 groups of people you listed, which one would buy a collectors edition of a blu ray movie?
answer= one who collects these movies versus my neighbor dowstairs
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Old 03-26-2012, 08:59 PM   #6
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It's not always just sellers and buyers, also on the companies.
Releases like Disney Vault releases keep their value often, because the company really pulls the plug, and the releases keep limited. Even if not numbered. Additionally the Disney movies are very good movies, not just for collector's and "freaks" collection movies like "Battle Royale" or "The Evil Dead".
Movies with very extreme unlimited releases often drops their value of limited releases of the same movies, because the masses get the movie cheap. No NEED for high prices.

I like my Limited Editions, but I (normally) won't buy insane prices, just for collection purposes, not for their "value".

Additionally the new online and streaming releases also dropping the value of Disc releases of the same movie.

The only thing that may be rise the price are real great additions, but only MAY rise the price/value.
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The UCE of Casablanca from 2008 has TERRIBLE resale value. Originally priced at $79.98 or so MSRP, you can easily snag one brand new, less than $15.

However, my Iron Man 2 Metalbook from Target would fetch $40 all day USED.

Just some examples.
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Old 07-07-2012, 03:52 PM   #8
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Things are only worth what someone will pay for them. That is ultimately what Onnichan was essentially saying.

The extended version of that thought... For something to have actual value (as opposed to perceived value) requires both a seller and a buyer.

For the seller, the value is whatever price at which he is willing to sell... For the buyer, the value is whatever price at which he is willing to buy. IF the two can agree upon a transaction, then you have established value for the transaction at that time.

IF I'm not willing to sell, then it is infinitely valuable to me! IF you are not willing to buy, then it is worthless to you.

It's all fine to talk about "collectibles" and "value" and such... but its all precariously balanced.

For every item you can name that "doubled in price in weeks"... I can find you an item that did that AND then tanked within a year.

Short term price-spikes on collectibles are to be expected as some people can't find something they want and are willing to overspend because they don't know if they'll get a chance later.

But for those willing to wait... deals can be had on most "collectibles" later.

To be blunt, the things that tend to come closer to holding value... are things not intended to be collectibles. Things that only people who liked them bought, thus a low production run, and nobody else was interested until years later a new audience learns about it and can't find the item anymore.

One of the kisses of death to value is for something to be specifically released as a "collectible" or "limited edition"... While there are always exceptions... most items released for "collectors" tend to be the least likely to hold that value years later. Even a legitimately rare "collector's item" often is not sought after later because it was aimed at selling to everyone who wanted it at that time, thus market saturation.

A limited edition stick-in-the-eye, for example, would find buyers... but after the initial sale... it is going to be difficult to find takers who wanted a stick in their eye but didn't line up for it when offered the first time.
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