AVS is back online - Blu-ray Forum

ottscay · 11-09-2007, 06:01 PM

For those who care.

glenn22 · 11-09-2007, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ottscay

For those who care.

*cricket sounds*

Deane Johnson · 11-09-2007, 06:24 PM

They obviously spent their down time writing a new set of rules, which cover a lot of the ground that was being misused. It's going to be a little tough for some of those more obnoxious posters to find anything to write about now. Too bad.

Sling · 11-09-2007, 06:51 PM

Good
They now have there play ground back.
I'm sick of AVS over flow stomping around here throwing fud from ever direction.

SNAP · 11-09-2007, 06:58 PM

FUD and total nuttiness.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sling

Good
They now have there play ground back.
I'm sick of AVS over flow stomping around here throwing fud from ever direction.

quetzalcoatl · 11-09-2007, 08:27 PM

But the numbers thread has been shut down for now again. So even with the numbers you are not allowed to talk about them I guess.

BeLikeU · 11-09-2007, 08:35 PM

Glad they got things straightened out...don't forget they DO dedicate a section or two on Blu stuff...

w_tanoto · 11-09-2007, 09:05 PM

now, they got to maintain it FUD-free

calcajun · 11-09-2007, 10:23 PM

LOL, Just went to see talk about numbers and it is closed.

WOW!

Sling · 11-09-2007, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calcajun

LOL, Just went to see talk about numbers and it is closed.

WOW!

Great great

Mr. Hanky · 11-09-2007, 10:54 PM

I have my doubts that the "new" AVS forum would be any different than before, just because of some new rules. The problem remains precisely the same as it was before (and what rules existed then vs. now had maybe 1% to do with the "real" problem). The "real" problem lies with the ability to perform moderation consistently for everybody and the willingness to eliminate troublemakers. This acknowledgment was absolutely missing from the "word from the moderators" post that announced the HDM section would be closed for a period of time. That suggests that they lacked any understanding of their own contribution to why things ended up the way they did. They just plainly panned it off as the fault of the people who were there and their behavior (which is only partly true). Hence, my belief that if they cannot acknowledge their own complicity in the matter and failure to control the situation, nothing can really change.

The people that were there are a product of who they allowed to stay and who they decided to ban.

The types of posts and the kinds of topics that appeared there were the product of what they decided to allow posted and what they chose to "delete".

There's no way around this. They can make all the rules they like, but it won't help anything if they don't care to moderate consistently, genuinely foster a neutral environment, and recognize the actual troublemakers that infest the site. Now they are stuck with a certain "clientèle" that they have, and there is simply no impetus left at the forum to push the discussions in a "neutral" direction. The "same" people will simply spawn the same kinds of discussions/zealotry, and the mods will simply pick and choose topics/posts/members to disappear so as to give the impression that things are running "smoothly".

The new list of rules strategy they chose is akin to declaring that symptoms "xyz" are no longer allowed here and hoping that the problem that spawns the symptoms spontaneously disappears. I don't know about y'all, but it doesn't look like something that will work to me.

That's my 2 cts.

zombie · 11-10-2007, 02:49 PM

AVS is wiping out signatures left and right. They even removed mine with simply stated "blu" and linked to my list of Blu-rays at DVDSpot.com. Yikes, a bit overboard but if that's what it takes to start cleaning up that mess I'm a-ok with it.

Sling · 11-10-2007, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by nyg

AVS is wiping out signatures left and right. They even removed mine with simply stated "blu" and linked to my list of Blu-rays at DVDSpot.com. Yikes, a bit overboard but if that's what it takes to start cleaning up that mess I'm a-ok with it.

They want there members to appear neutral so they can get away with more pro HD-DUD polls in there so called Blu-rays forums.

SingingTheBlues · 11-10-2007, 03:37 PM

Posts have slowed to a crawl there as of late!

Rob71 · 11-10-2007, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SingingTheBlues

Posts have slowed to a crawl there as of late!

Well according to the new rules half of the posters would get banned if they kept up their old habits, along with 90% of the posts.

And yes, I used a long drawn out scientific formula to arrive at my figures.

11-09-2007, 06:01 PM	#1
ottscay Active Member Member since:Apr 2007	AVS is back online For those who care.

11-09-2007, 10:54 PM	#11
Mr. Hanky Active Member Member since:Sep 2007	I have my doubts that the "new" AVS forum would be any different than before, just because of some new rules. The problem remains precisely the same as it was before (and what rules existed then vs. now had maybe 1% to do with the "real" problem). The "real" problem lies with the ability to perform moderation consistently for everybody and the willingness to eliminate troublemakers. This acknowledgment was absolutely missing from the "word from the moderators" post that announced the HDM section would be closed for a period of time. That suggests that they lacked any understanding of their own contribution to why things ended up the way they did. They just plainly panned it off as the fault of the people who were there and their behavior (which is only partly true). Hence, my belief that if they cannot acknowledge their own complicity in the matter and failure to control the situation, nothing can really change. The people that were there are a product of who they allowed to stay and who they decided to ban. The types of posts and the kinds of topics that appeared there were the product of what they decided to allow posted and what they chose to "delete". There's no way around this. They can make all the rules they like, but it won't help anything if they don't care to moderate consistently, genuinely foster a neutral environment, and recognize the actual troublemakers that infest the site. Now they are stuck with a certain "clientèle" that they have, and there is simply no impetus left at the forum to push the discussions in a "neutral" direction. The "same" people will simply spawn the same kinds of discussions/zealotry, and the mods will simply pick and choose topics/posts/members to disappear so as to give the impression that things are running "smoothly". The new list of rules strategy they chose is akin to declaring that symptoms "xyz" are no longer allowed here and hoping that the problem that spawns the symptoms spontaneously disappears. I don't know about y'all, but it doesn't look like something that will work to me. That's my 2 cts. Last edited by Mr. Hanky; 11-09-2007 at 10:58 PM.

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11-09-2007, 06:24 PM	#3
Deane Johnson Active Member Member since:Nov 2006 Location:Omaha, NE	They obviously spent their down time writing a new set of rules, which cover a lot of the ground that was being misused. It's going to be a little tough for some of those more obnoxious posters to find anything to write about now. Too bad.

11-09-2007, 06:51 PM	#4
Sling Special Member Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Virginia Beach Blu-ray reviews:2	Good They now have there play ground back. I'm sick of AVS over flow stomping around here throwing fud from ever direction.

11-09-2007, 08:27 PM	#6
quetzalcoatl Special Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Grants Pass, OR	But the numbers thread has been shut down for now again. So even with the numbers you are not allowed to talk about them I guess.

11-09-2007, 08:35 PM	#7
BeLikeU Banned Member since:Nov 2007	Glad they got things straightened out...don't forget they DO dedicate a section or two on Blu stuff...

11-09-2007, 09:05 PM	#8
w_tanoto Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Hatfield, UK / Jakarta, Indonesia Blu-ray collection:37 Blu-ray reviews:47	now, they got to maintain it FUD-free

11-09-2007, 10:23 PM	#9
calcajun Active Member Member since:Feb 2007	LOL, Just went to see talk about numbers and it is closed. WOW!

11-10-2007, 02:49 PM	#12
zombie Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:May 2004 Trading Score:865	AVS is wiping out signatures left and right. They even removed mine with simply stated "blu" and linked to my list of Blu-rays at DVDSpot.com. Yikes, a bit overboard but if that's what it takes to start cleaning up that mess I'm a-ok with it.

11-10-2007, 03:37 PM	#14
SingingTheBlues Banned Member since:Nov 2007	Posts have slowed to a crawl there as of late!

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