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Old 12-16-2012, 04:53 AM   #1
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i have an 26 inch lg led/lcd tv. i'm wondering what's better? 16:9 or just scan. 16:9 zooms in the picture a littile (i heard this is how its suppose to be? is this true?) does just scan improve or worsen the image? if 16:9 is how it's suppose to be doesn't just scan zoom out then?

what do you use?
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Old 12-16-2012, 05:17 AM   #2
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To my knowledge, 16:9 has some overscan, which you've noticed as zooming. Just Scan displays all the lines in the video signal without the overscan.

Personally I'd use Just Scan, because it displays things as they're supposed to be seen. The test would probably be on a movie that's 1.85:1 aspect ratio, where you might see the slight black bars eliminated in 16:9 mode where they're retained in Just Scan. 16:9 might not eliminate them completely, it just depends on how much overscan 16:9 mode introduces.

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To my knowledge, 16:9 has some overscan, which you've noticed as zooming. Just Scan displays all the lines in the video signal without the overscan.

Personally I'd use Just Scan, because it displays things as they're supposed to be seen.
see tho some tvs don't have this option. i don't ill see. i kind of hate the black lines on top and bottom and 16:9 makes the lines smaller.

i'd like more opinions on that please, but thank you bstecke for your input.
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Old 12-16-2012, 05:21 AM   #4
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I think most LCD/LED tv's have the setting . . . plasmas may or may not, I dunno, it's been awhile since I went TV shopping.

While it makes the lines smaller, it also cuts information off on the sides. To each their own though
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Old 12-16-2012, 07:11 AM   #5
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Every TV (four) in my house has the option of having the picture fitted to the screen or 16:9. It is usually found under "Normal, Just Scan, or Screen Fit." The two Vizio LCDs are labeled "Normal", the LG is "Just Scan", and the Samsung Plasma is "Screen Fit."

For plasmas, a lot of people use 16:9 because it allows a few pixels to shift the picture around, supposedly avoiding burn in a bit. In reality, though, it's not doing much. You also lose a bit of information around the picture this way though. If you want to see the full picture, go with Just Scan.

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Old 12-16-2012, 11:19 AM   #6
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Every TV (four) in my house has the option of having the picture fitted to the screen or 16:9. It is usually found under "Normal, Just Scan, or Screen Fit." The two Vizio LCDs are labeled "Normal", the LG is "Just Scan", and the Samsung Plasma is "Screen Fit."

For plasmas, a lot of people use 16:9 because it allows a few pixels to shift the picture around, supposedly avoiding burn in a bit. In reality, though, it's not doing much. You also lose a bit of information around the picture this way though. If you want to see the full picture, go with Just Scan.
GamerBoy I have the same tv as you I use 16:9 instead of the screen fit so I can use the pixel orbiter. You use screen fit or 16:9? I am not really worried about burn in but like to have orbiter running just incase. I did however have to have my panel in my tv replaced 3 times in 1 year. You have any problems with your tv?
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Old 12-16-2012, 06:39 PM   #7
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GamerBoy I have the same tv as you I use 16:9 instead of the screen fit so I can use the pixel orbiter. You use screen fit or 16:9? I am not really worried about burn in but like to have orbiter running just incase. I did however have to have my panel in my tv replaced 3 times in 1 year. You have any problems with your tv?
I use Screen Fit for everything HD and 16:9 for SD content because the TV will only go as far as 16:9 for that. Knock on wood, I haven't had any problems with mine so far and I've had it for a year this month.
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Old 12-16-2012, 07:10 PM   #8
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I use Just Scan. It drives me batty in 16:9 seeing the sides of my picture missing. I've tried 3 of em. "by source" "16:9" and "just scan". Just scan is ideal.
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Old 12-16-2012, 07:57 PM   #9
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Just scan is the best option for watching movies because it shows the full intended picture rather than cutting it off. The small bars on a 1:85:1 movie are barely noticeable on just scan, and again it's what the director intended, as to plasmas, I have one and we always use "full" which is just scan and I never have any problems with burn in, if you want to see movies the way the director intended, use just scan, if u are annoyed with small or large bars, use 16:9
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Old 12-16-2012, 09:50 PM   #10
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Just scan is the best option for watching movies because it shows the full intended picture rather than cutting it off. The small bars on a 1:85:1 movie are barely noticeable on just scan, and again it's what the director intended, as to plasmas, I have one and we always use "full" which is just scan and I never have any problems with burn in, if you want to see movies the way the director intended, use just scan, if u are annoyed with small or large bars, use 16:9

Yep... Every Calibration Disk/Calibrator will tell you to use "Just Scan" or it's equivalent. Anything else is technically "incorrect". I say technically because you should use what looks good to you. But just like there are proper color/grey scale settings, so are there screen settings etc.
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:27 PM   #11
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I would use scan or screen fit you will get a truer picture and the picture should look a little better because it's pixel for pixel and not blown up at all. As soon as the picture is blown up it will loose some of its fidelity.
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Old 12-22-2012, 08:49 PM   #12
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Let me add this about just scan ... there's the rarity that when you're watching Cable/Satellite/Air(?) that you'll still get a black bar only at the top during some programming, then disappear when commercials come on, and when the next show starts, or corrects itself in the middle of the show. It's "normal" and on the broadcasters end, not the Just Scan feature.
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Old 12-22-2012, 09:14 PM   #13
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I always use "Just Scan" no matter what I watch. No picture is lost because of zooming. Plus a lot of my animated tv shows are before widescreen became standard...allowing me to watch in 4:3 is very much a requirement or I lose about a 1/3 of the picture.
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Old 02-15-2013, 04:55 AM   #14
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Just scan works well with my Laptop on my 2008 series 50 LG LCD TV. On my new Panasonic GT50 they have two screen sizes, forgot which is which. The thing with the Panasonic is you can't use their pixel orbiter that helps with anti image retention on the larger size. And the LG defaults back to 16 x 9 every time you turn in on. It is ALWAYs something.
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Old 02-15-2013, 10:06 AM   #15
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I use just scan. Using anything else looks wrong to me.
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Old 12-24-2013, 05:35 AM   #16
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Anything other then Just Scan is ridiculous. 16.9 is AWFUL especially on Samsung TV's

TBH samsung LED TV's are the worse picture quality of all major brands.

On all the latest LED TV sets ive seen with samsung - screen fit is shaded out so there is no option to use it. samsung TVs have to be set on Smart View 2 to even get a decent picture.

LG just scan works the best for all free to aire HD channels.
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Old 12-24-2013, 03:41 PM   #17
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On all the latest LED TV sets ive seen with samsung - screen fit is shaded out so there is no option to use it.
It depends on the input used, Screen Fit (that's the option on my 2 Samsung TVs) can only be used with certain signals. You can't select the option on SCART, Composite or PC (the PC option gives 1:1 anyway), I'm not sure about component. If you have a HDMI device you should be able to select Screen Fit.
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Old 12-26-2013, 08:41 AM   #18
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What is this "Just Scan" people are talking about? My 55" LCD/LED has the following options:

16:9

4:3

Zoom1

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1:1

I keep mine on 16:9. 1:1 looks near on identical to 16:9.

The only other aspect ratio management control is a screen fit option. You can choose between 'Full' and 'Zoom'. The former on 16:9 mode shows the entire frame i.e the small black bars on 1:85.1 films (which is the one I use), while zoom slightly crops the small black bars out on 1:85.1 content in 16:9 mode.

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Old 12-26-2013, 01:44 PM   #19
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What is this "Just Scan" people are talking about? My 55" LCD/LED has the following options:

16:9

4:3

Zoom1

Zoom2

1:1

I keep mine on 16:9. 1:1 looks near on identical to 16:9.

The only other aspect ratio management control is a screen fit option. You can choose between 'Full' and 'Zoom'. The former on 16:9 mode shows the entire frame i.e the small black bars on 1:85.1 films (which is the one I use), while zoom slightly crops the small black bars out on 1:85.1 content in 16:9 mode.

I would like to know as well Blu-21.
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Old 12-26-2013, 04:30 PM   #20
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What is this "Just Scan" people are talking about? My 55" LCD/LED has the following options:

16:9

4:3

Zoom1

Zoom2

1:1

I keep mine on 16:9. 1:1 looks near on identical to 16:9.

The only other aspect ratio management control is a screen fit option. You can choose between 'Full' and 'Zoom'. The former on 16:9 mode shows the entire frame i.e the small black bars on 1:85.1 films (which is the one I use), while zoom slightly crops the small black bars out on 1:85.1 content in 16:9 mode.
Isn't that what you should be using?more about it here https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=165523
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