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Giyomu · 11-13-2007, 03:06 PM

this is not officila and my only link to this news is in french so I won't post it but...

next XBOX360's update is likely scheduled on Dec.4 with really big news.

- 1st, you'll be able to download for average 1200pts full XBOX games!! first list is Halo, Fable, Farenheit, Crimson Skies Crash Bandicoot & Burnout 3

- 2nd, we will finally have access to HD movies from marketplace (France)!! (this service in US is available for a long time)
and here is something weird...
apparently, Warner would have signed an important deal with M$ ...

should we presume other consequences from this deal??

and here,
here is the link for those who understand le francais

http://www.jeuxvideo.fr/xbox-live-je...ctu-85632.html

CptGreedle · 11-13-2007, 03:10 PM

This would not affect anything with HD-DVD. Believe it or not but there are lots of studios releasing things to the XBOX Live... I think Disney does too but I am not sure.

This has nothing to do with HD-DVD. It is digital downloads, a different market.

RedIsNotBlue · 11-13-2007, 03:13 PM

yeah the Iron Man trailer is available at the PS3 store...doesn't mean anything.

Lord_Stewie · 11-13-2007, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CptGreedle

This would not affect anything with HD-DVD. Believe it or not but there are lots of studios releasing things to the XBOX Live... I think Disney does too but I am not sure.

This has nothing to do with HD-DVD. It is digital downloads, a different market.

You are right. you can download disney films from the XBOX LIVE. But it doesn't make a difference.

Giyomu · 11-13-2007, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CptGreedle

This would not affect anything with HD-DVD. Believe it or not but there are lots of studios releasing things to the XBOX Live... I think Disney does too but I am not sure.

This has nothing to do with HD-DVD. It is digital downloads, a different market.

don't think neither that we'll get a bomb news from WB they turned red but...
after crapamount "show me the money" strategy we can't be sure of nothing these days

Elandyll · 11-13-2007, 03:18 PM

Literal translation:

Quote:

The information comes straight from the Official Xbox 360 Magazine:
The Live service will soon turn into a virtual platform able to download older Xbox games. Starting December 4th, Xbox 360 owners will be able to buy Halo, Fable, Fahrenheit, Crimson Skies:High Road to Revenge, Crash Bandicoot: La Vengeance de Cortex and Burnout3: Takedown.
The price of each title is fixed at 1200 Microsoft pts, meaning about 14 euros.

At the same time, the company will put in place a Video On demand service. Users will download a first selection of films in HD. Apparently, Warner Bros. would also have signed an important agreement with Microsoft. We now wait for more details concerning this huge update.

CptGreedle · 11-13-2007, 03:24 PM

This is clearly only a XBOX Live deal. The article is only about that, plus we'd hear about something big in USA before we hear about it in France.
WB is not going red, not only did they say they are waiting till after Q4, but they are also not dumb. Look at the numbers. Even after these "90k" HD-DVD players sold, they still can't get close to out selling BD movies in USA, and in the rest of the world, it is not even a competition. Japan is at 9:1, while UK is about 4:1. Face it, the war is a joke, USA will not decide the war, the WORLD does. And the world has spoken, BD is the winner and USA will just have to catch up to reality.

Manco · 11-13-2007, 03:34 PM

To repeat again...

We need to stop worrying about downloads. Studios, who are first and foremost in the CONTENT business, will look to all methods of content delivery to maximize profits and generate revenue. This is just good business sense. However, this has nothing to do with a Studios choice to deliver packaged media as source of revenue in form of Blu-ray or HD-DVD.

stockstar1138 · 11-13-2007, 03:34 PM

since ive heard 720p is more than good enough a million times out of the 360s fanbase, i have to assume this an awful thing for hd dvd. 360 fanboys would much rather just pony up a few live points for an wb hd download than go out and spend 30 bucks on a hd dvd, especially if the movie is not a keeper. this will eat into hd dvd sales. toshiba cannot be to happy. i think they are going to see very soon that MS is NOT their friend.

Sonny · 11-13-2007, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CptGreedle

This is clearly only a XBOX Live deal. The article is only about that, plus we'd hear about something big in USA before we hear about it in France.
WB is not going red, not only did they say they are waiting till after Q4, but they are also not dumb. Look at the numbers. Even after these "90k" HD-DVD players sold, they still can't get close to out selling BD movies in USA, and in the rest of the world, it is not even a competition. Japan is at 9:1, while UK is about 4:1. Face it, the war is a joke, USA will not decide the war, the WORLD does. And the world has spoken, BD is the winner and USA will just have to catch up to reality.

I'm with you, WE do need to catch up

CptGreedle · 11-13-2007, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stockstar1138

since ive heard 720p is more than good enough a million times out of the 360s fanbase, i have to assume this an awful thing for hd dvd. 360 fanboys would much rather just pony up a few live points for an wb hd download than go out and spend 30 bucks on a hd dvd, especially if the movie is not a keeper. this will eat into hd dvd sales. toshiba cannot be to happy. i think they are going to see very soon that MS is NOT their friend.

I agree. M$ has done little to really support Toshiba in this except to force them to stay in the format.
In fact, toshiba is the only major CE manufacturer that is not making Blu-ray players, and the only one making HD-DVD. They should at least start making BD players as well to make up for lost sales from M$'s deals and such.

tron3 · 11-13-2007, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giyomu

...

and here,
here is the link for those who understand le francais

http://www.jeuxvideo.fr/xbox-live-je...ctu-85632.html

And here is the bablefish translation into English.

http://world.altavista.com/babelfish/tr

Keep in mind, it may not read well, but you can read it.

Giyomu · 11-13-2007, 03:58 PM

my conclusion :

viva él blu!!

finishied work right now and am going to buy harry potter movies (separately) + TMNT before going home and have a refrshing time with my blu

WickyWoo · 11-13-2007, 04:00 PM

Whatever deals studios make in the download arena is wholly seperate from physical

teunis · 11-13-2007, 04:08 PM

Umm, *scratches head*, doesn't PS3 already offer older games for download? Yes.
And isn't IPTV coming to PS3 soon? I think so.
I think this news is good for Xbox users that play games. It shouldn't effect Blu-ray vs. HD DVD at all. IMO.

*Shrug*

seto · 11-13-2007, 04:16 PM

A case of mountain being made from a mole hill perhaps. ^^;

radagast · 11-13-2007, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stockstar1138

since ive heard 720p is more than good enough a million times out of the 360s fanbase, i have to assume this an awful thing for hd dvd. 360 fanboys would much rather just pony up a few live points for an wb hd download than go out and spend 30 bucks on a hd dvd, especially if the movie is not a keeper. this will eat into hd dvd sales. toshiba cannot be to happy. i think they are going to see very soon that MS is NOT their friend.

Righto.

stockstar1138 · 11-13-2007, 05:32 PM

why on god's earth would anybody with a 360 buy an add on anymore? you got much more of a selection with dl hd movies than with hd dvd and its a hell of a lot cheaper. im pretty sure 95% of xbox owners own vizios and the other 5% own westinghouses and ilos, so obviously quality doesn't matter which would be hd dvds only real talking point over downloads. i know sony has talked of a similar service, but it won't see the light of day until after blu-ray has already won.

jw · 11-13-2007, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stockstar1138

since ive heard 720p is more than good enough a million times out of the 360s fanbase, i have to assume this an awful thing for hd dvd. 360 fanboys would much rather just pony up a few live points for an wb hd download than go out and spend 30 bucks on a hd dvd, especially if the movie is not a keeper. this will eat into hd dvd sales. toshiba cannot be to happy. i think they are going to see very soon that MS is NOT their friend.

well spoken!!!!

stockstar1138 · 11-13-2007, 05:36 PM

anybody else think their is a possibility that WB has made a decision to drop hd dvd and this is a way for them to make some quick MS $ and diversify how they distribute hd content. think about it, they drop hd dvd and go with MS downloads, they are still reaching half of their hd dvd base + all the millions who didn't buy the add on, on top of getting money from MS. its so much more lucrative to go with MS downloads than hd dvd. MS broadens its hd dl service, which makes it much more competitive against blu-ray. i think MS knows that hd dvds days are numbered and if they don't build up the dl service before it gets killed off, blu-ray is going to become mainstream real fast. we might be seeing a blu-ray v. download war.

11-13-2007, 03:06 PM	#1
Giyomu Banned Member since:Sep 2007 Location:France Blu-ray collection:347 Blu-ray reviews:6	*WB Microsoft juicy contract $$$ rumor** this is not officila and my only link to this news is in french so I won't post it but... next XBOX360's update is likely scheduled on Dec.4 with really big news. - 1st, you'll be able to download for average 1200pts full XBOX games!! first list is Halo, Fable, Farenheit, Crimson Skies Crash Bandicoot & Burnout 3 - 2nd, we will finally have access to HD movies from marketplace (France)!! (this service in US is available for a long time) and here is something weird... apparently, Warner would have signed an important deal with M$ ... should we presume other consequences from this deal?? and here, here is the link for those who understand le francais http://www.jeuxvideo.fr/xbox-live-je...ctu-85632.html

11-13-2007, 05:36 PM	#20
stockstar1138 Banned Member since:Apr 2007	anybody else think their is a possibility that WB has made a decision to drop hd dvd and this is a way for them to make some quick MS $ and diversify how they distribute hd content. think about it, they drop hd dvd and go with MS downloads, they are still reaching half of their hd dvd base + all the millions who didn't buy the add on, on top of getting money from MS. its so much more lucrative to go with MS downloads than hd dvd. MS broadens its hd dl service, which makes it much more competitive against blu-ray. i think MS knows that hd dvds days are numbered and if they don't build up the dl service before it gets killed off, blu-ray is going to become mainstream real fast. we might be seeing a blu-ray v. download war. Last edited by stockstar1138; 11-13-2007 at 05:40 PM.

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11-13-2007, 03:10 PM	#2
CptGreedle Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Sworn super-hero now services Atlanta (and suburbs). Blu-ray collection:128 Blu-ray reviews:5	This would not affect anything with HD-DVD. Believe it or not but there are lots of studios releasing things to the XBOX Live... I think Disney does too but I am not sure. This has nothing to do with HD-DVD. It is digital downloads, a different market.

11-13-2007, 03:13 PM	#3
RedIsNotBlue Blu-ray Ninja Member since:May 2007 Blu-ray collection:503 Digital collection:10 Trading Score:226	yeah the Iron Man trailer is available at the PS3 store...doesn't mean anything.

11-13-2007, 03:24 PM	#7
CptGreedle Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Sworn super-hero now services Atlanta (and suburbs). Blu-ray collection:128 Blu-ray reviews:5	This is clearly only a XBOX Live deal. The article is only about that, plus we'd hear about something big in USA before we hear about it in France. WB is not going red, not only did they say they are waiting till after Q4, but they are also not dumb. Look at the numbers. Even after these "90k" HD-DVD players sold, they still can't get close to out selling BD movies in USA, and in the rest of the world, it is not even a competition. Japan is at 9:1, while UK is about 4:1. Face it, the war is a joke, USA will not decide the war, the WORLD does. And the world has spoken, BD is the winner and USA will just have to catch up to reality.

11-13-2007, 03:34 PM	#8
Manco Special Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Tucumcari	To repeat again... We need to stop worrying about downloads. Studios, who are first and foremost in the CONTENT business, will look to all methods of content delivery to maximize profits and generate revenue. This is just good business sense. However, this has nothing to do with a Studios choice to deliver packaged media as source of revenue in form of Blu-ray or HD-DVD.

11-13-2007, 03:58 PM	#13
Giyomu Banned Member since:Sep 2007 Location:France Blu-ray collection:347 Blu-ray reviews:6	my conclusion : viva él blu!! finishied work right now and am going to buy harry potter movies (separately) + TMNT before going home and have a refrshing time with my blu

11-13-2007, 04:00 PM	#14
WickyWoo Blu-ray Champion Member since:May 2007 Trading Score:2	Whatever deals studios make in the download arena is wholly seperate from physical

11-13-2007, 04:08 PM	#15
teunis Active Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Toronto, ON Blu-ray collection:120	Umm, scratches head, doesn't PS3 already offer older games for download? Yes. And isn't IPTV coming to PS3 soon? I think so. I think this news is good for Xbox users that play games. It shouldn't effect Blu-ray vs. HD DVD at all. IMO. Shrug

11-13-2007, 04:16 PM	#16
seto Senior Member Member since:Jul 2007 Blu-ray reviews:1	A case of mountain being made from a mole hill perhaps. ^^;

11-13-2007, 05:32 PM	#18
stockstar1138 Banned Member since:Apr 2007	why on god's earth would anybody with a 360 buy an add on anymore? you got much more of a selection with dl hd movies than with hd dvd and its a hell of a lot cheaper. im pretty sure 95% of xbox owners own vizios and the other 5% own westinghouses and ilos, so obviously quality doesn't matter which would be hd dvds only real talking point over downloads. i know sony has talked of a similar service, but it won't see the light of day until after blu-ray has already won.

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