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Old 11-18-2024, 06:57 AM   #1
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Dogma is coming back, baby! For years, Kevin Smith’s religious comedy has been trapped in IP jail. But as he outlined at Vulture Festival, next year will be huge for thirteenth Apostle Rufus fans. Dogma is going on tour, getting a SteelBook release, and becoming available on streaming. Then, there will be a Dogma sequel. Smith also explained how the film finally was freed from purgatory.

Over the years, the 1999 film has been a bargaining chip between various feuding entities like Disney, Miramax, and Bob and Harvey Weinstein. As Smith explained, he’s made three different offers to buy the rights to Dogma off the Weinsteins — first for $250,000, then $500,000, then a cool mil. Smith sent his offer to “a convicted rapist,” as he put it, and “got no response from him. Got it from his lawyer. Lawyer’s like, ‘He’s not interested. The bid is too low.’” Smith wanted to buy back the rights to Dogma because it was a deeply personal film — both as an expression of his faith and his relationship to his deeply Catholic parents. But every deal that Harvey Weinstein approved gave him profit participation, which Smith couldn’t support. “I was like, I can’t be involved with that dude in any way, shape, or form,” Smith said.

But God Alanis Morissette works in mysterious ways. The convicted rapist needed money for challenging the aforementioned convictions, so his company sold a huge chunk of film off. “I guess he needed money for his legal fees and shit,” Smith said, “and he sold a giant package that was a bunch of kung fu movies, Fahrenheit 9/11, Kids, and Dogma.” The company didn’t realize what they had bought, Smith said. “When they looked at them, they’re like, ‘Ben Affleck’s in this one!’” They reached out to Smith, who said it was “like getting my ****ing child back.”

And now that Dogma is back with its daddy — with a tour in the works — it’s time to give it a sibling. Smith said at Vulture Festival that his ideas for a Dogma sequel have been fomenting since a four-hour drive from Vegas to L.A. “Some people will be like, ‘Don’t ****ing touch it. You’ll ruin it.’ And I’m here to tell you: I will,” he told the audience, later teasing, “I’m ****ing tickled. I found a way in.” The film Smith’s started to plan will be more of a companion piece than a straight sequel.

So the gang isn’t getting back together to save God again, but Smith promised that Ben Affleck and Matt Damon will be in the Dogma sequel/companion film. After all, they owe Smith: The pair credit Smith with “saving” their 1997 film Good Will Hunting by convincing Miramax to let them star, but Smith never got a thank you at the Golden Globes or Oscars. “I have been able to hold that over both their heads for 25 ****ing years, which is why they keep showing up in all the movies,” Smith told the Vulture Festival crowd. “Expect a cameo from them — more than a ****ing cameo. The only way we get a Dogma sequel made is if they’re there. So count on those guys being there.”
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Old 11-18-2024, 07:09 AM   #2
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That ship sailed long ago.
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Old 11-18-2024, 07:15 AM   #3
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That ship sailed long ago.
Why mods let BB and their alias continue to make these threads is incredible. But yeah Kevin Smith projects rarely get off the ground, how many times has he promised Mallrats 2 as his next project the last 20 years? lol
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That ship sailed long ago.
And sank with all hands.
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Old 11-18-2024, 10:39 AM   #6
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Why mods let BB and their alias continue to make these threads is incredible. But yeah Kevin Smith projects rarely get off the ground, how many times has he promised Mallrats 2 as his next project the last 20 years? lol
The problem is Kevin talks. A lot. So when he mentions he's got more ideas for sequels and new films he mentions them before any proper deal happens. Mallrats 2 has been talked about for so long because Universal keeps screwing him over.
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The problem is Kevin talks. A lot. So when he mentions he's got more ideas for sequels and new films he mentions them before any proper deal happens. Mallrats 2 has been talked about for so long because Universal keeps screwing him over.
It makes it a little easier with this because Kevin has the rights back. I doubt Universal will give up the rights to Mall Rats.
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Old 11-18-2024, 12:35 PM   #8
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Universal keeps screwing him over.
That might be because they've seen what he did with Clerks 3 and The Jay and Silent Bob Reboot.

They're his movies, so he can do what he wants. I can just ignore the new ones while still enjoying the old ones like I do with Star Trek and Star Wars. But damn man, just let go of the past. Whatever he had when he was making Clerks and Dogma 25 years ago is gone.
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Old 11-18-2024, 12:52 PM   #9
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That might be because they've seen what he did with Clerks 3 and The Jay and Silent Bob Reboot.

They're his movies, so he can do what he wants. I can just ignore the new ones while still enjoying the old ones like I do with Star Trek and Star Wars. But damn man, just let go of the past. Whatever he had when he was making Clerks and Dogma 25 years ago is gone.
It's been before his return to the View Askew stuff. It's only as of the last few years that he's really been pushing for it.

I'll admit that his new stuff isn't quite up to snuff but I admire his gumption and his dedication to making films for himself and true to himself.
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Never liked the original so no interest in a sequel or remake.
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Dogma is pretty ripe for a sequel, of all of his films, so this is kind of interesting. Plus, some of the stuff that he simply couldn't do on the meager budget he had for the original film would be much cheaper today. Cautiously optimistic. I enjoyed Clerks III. I still need to watch The 4:30 Movie.
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Not trying to be overly negative, but Kevin Smith is literally incapable of making a decent movie these days. I highly doubt this will actually happen, but hopefully he just leaves it alone.
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Smith says he is writing notes in his Memory Warehouse, so this could be a long way from being a thing.

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Smith says he is writing notes in his Memory Warehouse, so this could be a long way from being a thing.

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Sure if he does not get bored and do another Clerks movie.
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Sure if he does not get bored and do another Clerks movie.
Hey, look at the bright side - either way, we're probably going to end up with yet another crappy Kevin Smith movie
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Hey, look at the bright side - either way, we're probably going to end up with yet another crappy Kevin Smith movie
I mean I skipped most of the sequels. What is one more not to watch. I am sure someone will enjoy it.
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If/when the project moves forward, I know who'd make an excellent Buddy Jesús

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If/when the project moves forward, I know who'd make an excellent Buddy Jesús

I mean cannot get any worse than this.

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The original film will be getting re-released in theatres this summer and Kevin himself will go on tour… expect more info about the sequel soon!



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