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![]() ![]() ![]() Third Window have finally announced details of their much-anticipated boxset Nobuhiko Obayashi's 80s Kadokawa Years. Amazon Pre-Order Quote:
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This release looks fantastic. It will be mine.
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May 2022
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Pre-ordered. Looks essential.
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Also arrived from Terracotta today, it looks gorgeous.
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School in the Crosshairs [Show spoiler] The Girl Who Leapt Through Time [Show spoiler] The Island Closest to Heaven [Show spoiler] His Motorbike, Her Island [Show spoiler]
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Mar 2022
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Kept on getting FOMO with Terracotta constantly mentioning its lower price before release date. Looking forward to it arriving today perhaps. |
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I've now watched the whole set (thoughts below copied from my posts in the Third Window set) and I can't see anything topping it as my favourite release of the year. An absolutely essential purchase.
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Got my set in yesterday, and watched the School in the Crosshairs disc completely. The films here have been aired in the last year so I was able to compare this BD to the recording I made of WOWOW Plus on Feb. 21st. The UK disc and the OTA both have similar color grades, but beyond that they differ. The OTA is slightly windowboxed (perhaps indicating an older HD master?) and there are obvious spots of debris and damage over the course of the film that are now clean for the UK edition. The biggest difference though is in gamma. As you can see from the caps earlier in this thread, the UK disc is (all four are?) very low contrast which leaves plenty of shadow detail visible. This is completely opposite the TV master which has gamma dialed into a typical 1980s era (Japanese) feature film level, blacks crushing to the point where the shadows are black (school uniforms appear dark blue, as they would in real life). Back to back, the OTA seems more "correct" but I will give Third Window the benefit of the doubt here and assume this brightness wasn't a mastering mistake. Grain has been managed to a large extent on the BD, projected it seemed a bit heavy handed (static), but compression was much better than OTA which suffers from (more grain and) lower bitrate MPEG-2.
The other BIG difference is the audio. The TV master is two-channel mono, while the BD is 5.1. The rejiggered surround audio could be jarring, with sound effects of enhanced dynamic range applied to the L/R/surrounds (or bass, VERY deep bass) standing in stark contrast to the tonally limited central audio stem. It was only employed in a limited number of scenes making it all the more obvious. I would have liked an option of the original mono track on the BD, but perhaps this remaster was all that was available? Supplements were nice but (iphone?) auto-focus really needs to be disabled for interview and talking head pieces. I wound up watching the interview at 2x speed silent reading the subtitles to avoid having the constant focus racking distract me from the content! |
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Just received my set and took a look at the discs. Was very disappointed to find the The Girl Who Leapt Through Time is clearly sourced from an older master when a 4K scan of this film exists (and is available in Blu-ray in Japan: https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-L...lu-ray/114680/). For a comparison, see this video:
I know Japanese companies can be rather particular about these things and I wouldn't put it past them they provided Third Window Films with an older master to prevent reverse importation. Even more strange is that Arrow's recent release of another Kadokawa film from the 80s (Sailor Suit and Machine Gun) is sourced from the 4K scan! I have contacted Third Window for an explanation and will update if they reply. Last edited by KaizerChef; 11-14-2022 at 08:40 PM. |
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We did briefly discuss it over at the Third Window thread. To be fair, they never advertised that it would be the 4K restoration, though one certainly hoped it would have been 8 years after the Japanese release. I've given up on trying to understand why Japanese studios do what they do.
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Update: I got a reply from Adam Torel from Third Window Films:
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I think it is a fair point that they didn’t promote that film as having a 4K restoration on the release. It is disappointing to be sure but it sounds like an issue that might not be resolved. Maybe another foreign distributor can license that film for 4K.
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I remember there being drama that Criterion were sent older masters for some Godzilla movies compared to what was available in Japan |
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sure, i get that, to an extent. it's the accumulative effect of things promoted across the formats, that end up being less than ideal. it gets frustrating and disappointing to see little issues. i don't really buy films regularly any more because of these issues, in large part. there are a small handful each year worth following, and this was one of them for me. i'd like more japanese cinema that isn't widely covered, especially 80s stuff.
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