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Old 06-22-2015, 06:02 PM   #1
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If anybody truly wants to see the 3D potential of their tv, they should strongly consider checking out "Geography of the Universe" by San Base studios:

It's just eye-candy CGI artwork in motion, but it's like nothing I've ever seen before. The "camera" is in constant motion, slowly passing through the walls of structures as if they weren't there, moving through the incredibly complex worlds San Base has created. It's hard to describe the effect, but check out the youtube clips to get an idea of how it looks in motion. Each world is unique and full of stunning imagery, and the 1080p images are incredibly sharp and colorful, as the images were originally rendered in 4k.

The 3D is by far some of the best I have ever seen on my tv. It's incredibly deep, pushing the limits of your 3D tv. There's so much going on with the intricate structures constantly in motion that you almost feel like you are in those worlds. It's just mindless eye-candy, and some may find it repetitive, but I find it amazing for relaxation, and it's easy to get lost and entranced in these worlds. The 3D imagery here is far superior to what you see in Hollywood films these days.

Sadly, the discs are BD-R discs, not pressed. My copy simply would not play on either blu-ray player. One player wouldn't read it at all and the other got stuck on the menu. Perhaps something was wrong with the structure of the disc? I scanned it in my PC blu-ray drive and it tested 100% readable, so I ripped it and watched it that way on my 3D media player, but it was a step I shouldn't have needed to do. So that may be cause for concern for some people, which is very understandable.

They also sell an earlier disc called "Function of Reality" which uses the same type of cgi, and that disc has the same stunning level of 3D as "Geography of the Universe". This is truly demo material.
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Old 06-26-2015, 04:27 AM   #2
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One thing I'd add about this title and "Function of Reality" is unfortunately there are a lot of compression artifacts. It's hard not to see them - with all the intricate details and the fact that it's in 3D, the artifacting is very apparent. I'd still recommend this based on the amazing imagery and stunning depth.
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Old 06-26-2015, 04:04 PM   #3
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A sample of the San Base "eye-candy CGI artwork" is found on Vol.7 of the region-free Best Of 3D Vol.7-9 Blu-ray 3D from Amazon Germany.

San Base: Solaris: runtime: 10 min 54 seconds.

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Old 06-27-2015, 03:00 AM   #4
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Good catch!
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Old 07-22-2016, 11:13 AM   #5
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I just stumbled across and ordered Geography of the Universe on the San Base website. Since it doesn't seem to be sold at any retailers or have a UPC, is it still the case that it is limited to direct sales only?

For anyone interested, here's the review from Andrew Miller of Le Cinema Paradiso:

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‘Geography of the Universe’ by San Base presents SAN BASE’s unique and spectacular "stereoscopic" “Real 3D” experience images of a special kind, which gives you some of the most enchanted 3D parallel worlds you will ever experience, plus psychedelic coral reefs, crystal caves, and breath-taking landscapes. Canadian Artist San Base developed something totally unique that has not been produced by anyone else and is also like no other fantastic 3D produced imagery by anyone else. San Base is constantly evolving 3D worlds with stunning “Pop Out” 3D effects that has an unprecedented spatial depth and perception. With its “Real 3D” awesome effects, it takes you on a SAN BASE journey to a parallel universe of the Third Kind, which is totally optimised only for 3D Blu-ray home entertainment. The combination of art and music is carefully crafted to create not only one of the best examples of “Real 3D,” but an event that will draw you into a stimulating journey for the senses that is like anything you have ever seen before.

Blu-ray Video Quality – The ‘Geography of the Universe’ by San Base is presented in the most stunning awesome 1080p image transfer and has an equally stunning wonderful 1.78:1 aspect ratio. For the most part, this is totally successful and effective super “Real 3D” video quality that is totally staggering; and with many of the 3D image sequences you get to view, you get awesome enhancements of the 3D processing effects. You will get blown away with the depth of field you get to experience and it makes you want to actually step into your Flat Screen 3D Television and explore this awesome 3D landscape in real time. At times you feel the objects will touch you, that is how realistic the “Real 3D” is and I feel SAN BASE has done the most extraordinary and stunning professional job, so much so, you will think it is a totally real place you are visiting, that is how good the “Real 3D” images you view are. The approval rating I give this is definitely 100% and you will be amazed what you view and you will never get tired of viewing this “Real 3D” Blu-ray disc, as you will see something totally different each time you view this out of this world “Real 3D” Blu-ray disc.

Blu-ray Audio Quality – The ‘Geography of the Universe’ by San Base is presented in an awesome 5.1 DTS-HD Master Audio which is also totally impressive, because it is has an energetic soundscape that SAN BASE has carefully enhanced the sound design that comes out of your speakers, that will give you an all-out assault on the available channels and is definitely very impressive, especially going with the spectacular 3D landscapes before you, so making it a glorious awesome listening experience. With “Our Worlds is a Crazy Fractal” it starts off with a very heavy base sound that made my speakers vibrate quite strongly, that at the beginning I had to turn down the volume quite a lot, but slowly the sounds slowly turns into a very pleasant ambient sounds, that goes with all the different landscapes you get to view and slowly I was able to turn the volume up to the normal volume.

Before I finish off my comments on ‘Geography of the Universe’ by SAN BASE 3D Blu-ray disc, which by the way is not available from your usually Internet outlet, but can only be purchased from the San Base Studio in Canada. You will have to purchase the SAN BASES’s 3D Blu-ray discs to again experience something totally awesome and unique, as SAN BASE deserves all the success for all the professional work he has produced. In fact I would go as far as to say that SAN BASE deserves an OSCAR® Award for all of his professional efforts in producing something totally unique and out of this world experience that I have not seen anyone else produce something that is totally spectacular with “Real 3D” images.

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Old 07-30-2016, 06:32 AM   #6
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A bit hyperbolic, that review, no?

To be honest, the 3D itself is absolutely reference-quality. It's quite stunning and I dare say most people probably have no idea just what their 3D TV is capable of, especially if all they watch are weak Hollywood contemporary 3D films. This feature truly opens up your TV and shows you a world you have never seen. The imagery is in constant motion, twisting and morphing as you slowly glide across the ever-changing landscapes, literally tearing open as you pass through objects and rebuilding and re-forming as you pass out the other side. The color is gorgeous and each segment has a totally different look to it's "world". It's truly something to see even in 2D. In 3D it's breathtaking.

Sadly, my copy did suffer from compression artifacting, and the intricate nature of the imagery was definitely impacted by this issue. It reminds me of the older Shout Factory blu-ray transfers with their encoding issues. That, combined with the fact that the disc itself was unplayable in both of my players - likely due to either the menu structure or perhaps the fact that it was a burned disc, may be a cause of hesitation for some.

Perhaps those issues are worked out now. Or maybe not. It is definitely one of the more stunning 3D demo discs I have ever seen, and the content is 100% unique. Highly recommended with a bit of caution due to the disc issues I experienced.

Marcuslaw, yes, the only place I'm aware of to buy it is through their website directly. Let us know here if your disc plays without issue. I'm curious now.
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I plan to watch it later today. For what it's worth, I'll post my reaction afterward.
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Old 08-10-2016, 06:26 PM   #8
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They sell these in Germany.. Some are dirt cheap like these ones:
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I plan to watch it later today. For what it's worth, I'll post my reaction afterward.
Looking forward to it as I was thinking about picking these up.
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Be sure to pick up the Lichtmond series as well. They're 3-D eye candy with cool music to boot. Alan Parsons has described Lichtmond as the next Tangerine Dream. Oh, and BTW, there will be a fourth installment this fall that will feature an ATMOS track.
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Looking forward to it as I was thinking about picking these up.
Just finished viewing. While I enjoyed it, for the most part, this isn't Lichtmond. I get that there are chapters broken into different themes, but it didn't take long before it began to seem redundant if not a tad bit boring. Depth and layering are gloriously done. There is always multiple layers of objects going back into the screen. You can see inspiration in nature for some like fish and dogs but they're usually alien. I didn't care much for the peeling back or unlayering of objects from the screen. I suppose this was a technical device to limit their negative parallax but it was too distracting at times. While I did see occasional ghosting and some video noise in the first chapter, the image was otherwise pristine. The music is also not up to par with Lichtmond and it didn't really seem to help tell a story. BTW, according to the display from my Oppo, the audio was Dolby Digital not DTS-MA 5.1. Overall, while Geography is a 3-D demo disk, it won't keep you audience focused, or worse yet, awake, for the duration.

I'll post the technical specs for the disk once BDinfo is done scanning. I glanced at it in progress and Geography indeed offers only a DD 5.1 track (48 kHz, 448 kbps).

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Here's the completed tech report from BDinfo on Geography:

[QUOTE]Disc Title: UNIVERSE_GEOGRAPHIC
Disc Size: 23,255,314,821 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: No
Extras: Blu-ray 3D
BDInfo: 0.5.8

Notes:

BDINFO HOME:
Cinema Squid
http://cinemasquid.com/blu-ray/tools/bdinfo

INCLUDES FORUMS REPORT FOR:
AVS Forum Blu-ray Audio and Video Specifications Thread
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1155731

WARNING: File errors were encountered during scan:

00013.M2TS The disk media is not recognized. It may not be formatted.

at System.IO.__Error.WinIOError(Int32 errorCode, String maybeFullPath)
at System.IO.FileStream.ReadCore(Byte[] buffer, Int32 offset, Int32 count)
at System.IO.FileStream.Read(Byte[] array, Int32 offset, Int32 count)
at BDInfo.TSStreamFile.Scan(List`1 playlists, Boolean isFullScan)
at BDInfo.FormMain.ScanBDROMThread(Object parameter)

00008.M2TS The disk media is not recognized. It may not be formatted.

at System.IO.__Error.WinIOError(Int32 errorCode, String maybeFullPath)
at System.IO.FileStream.ReadCore(Byte[] buffer, Int32 offset, Int32 count)
at System.IO.FileStream.Read(Byte[] array, Int32 offset, Int32 count)
at BDInfo.TSStreamFile.Scan(List`1 playlists, Boolean isFullScan)
at BDInfo.FormMain.ScanBDROMThread(Object parameter)

00007.M2TS The disk media is not recognized. It may not be formatted.

at System.IO.__Error.WinIOError(Int32 errorCode, String maybeFullPath)
at System.IO.FileStream.ReadCore(Byte[] buffer, Int32 offset, Int32 count)
at System.IO.FileStream.Read(Byte[] array, Int32 offset, Int32 count)
at BDInfo.TSStreamFile.Scan(List`1 playlists, Boolean isFullScan)
at BDInfo.FormMain.ScanBDROMThread(Object parameter)

00006.M2TS The disk media is not recognized. It may not be formatted.

at System.IO.__Error.WinIOError(Int32 errorCode, String maybeFullPath)
at System.IO.FileStream.ReadCore(Byte[] buffer, Int32 offset, Int32 count)
at System.IO.FileStream.Read(Byte[] array, Int32 offset, Int32 count)
at BDInfo.TSStreamFile.Scan(List`1 playlists, Boolean isFullScan)
at BDInfo.FormMain.ScanBDROMThread(Object parameter)

00012.M2TS The disk media is not recognized. It may not be formatted.

at System.IO.__Error.WinIOError(Int32 errorCode, String maybeFullPath)
at System.IO.FileStream.ReadCore(Byte[] buffer, Int32 offset, Int32 count)
at System.IO.FileStream.Read(Byte[] array, Int32 offset, Int32 count)
at BDInfo.TSStreamFile.Scan(List`1 playlists, Boolean isFullScan)
at BDInfo.FormMain.ScanBDROMThread(Object parameter)

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DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     UNIVERSE_GEOGRAPHIC
Disc Size:      23,255,314,821 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        No
Extras:         Blu-ray 3D
BDInfo:         0.5.8

PLAYLIST REPORT:

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Length:                 0:24:47.777 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   5,670,359,040 bytes
Total Bitrate:          30.49 Mbps

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AUDIO:

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QUICK SUMMARY:

Disc Title: UNIVERSE_GEOGRAPHIC
Disc Size: 23,255,314,821 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: No
Playlist: 00002.MPLS
Size: 5,670,359,040 bytes
Length: 0:24:47.777
Total Bitrate: 30.49 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 20532 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Video: MPEG-4 MVC Video / 8070 kbps /
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DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     UNIVERSE_GEOGRAPHIC
Disc Size:      23,255,314,821 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        No
Extras:         Blu-ray 3D
BDInfo:         0.5.8

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00007.MPLS
Length:                 0:18:34.905 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   2,595,327,168 bytes
Total Bitrate:          18.62 Mbps

VIDEO:

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AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
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CHAPTERS:

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STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

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QUICK SUMMARY:

Disc Title: UNIVERSE_GEOGRAPHIC
Disc Size: 23,255,314,821 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: No
Playlist: 00007.MPLS
Size: 2,595,327,168 bytes
Length: 0:18:34.905
Total Bitrate: 18.62 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 20245 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Video: MPEG-4 MVC Video / 8231 kbps /
Audio: English / Dolby Digital Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps


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DISC INFO:

Disc Title: UNIVERSE_GEOGRAPHIC
Disc Size: 23,255,314,821 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: No
Extras: Blu-ray 3D
BDInfo: 0.5.8

PLAYLIST REPORT:

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Part II:

Quote:
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00002.SSIF 4114 (0x1012) 0x20 MVC 1042.917 9,362 1,220,414,199 6,648,003
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QUICK SUMMARY:

Disc Title: UNIVERSE_GEOGRAPHIC
Disc Size: 23,255,314,821 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: No
Playlist: 00001.MPLS
Size: 4,213,635,072 bytes
Length: 0:17:23.042
Total Bitrate: 32.32 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 20993 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Video: MPEG-4 MVC Video / 9360 kbps /
Audio: English / Dolby Digital Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps


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DISC INFO:

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Disc Size:      23,255,314,821 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        No
Extras:         Blu-ray 3D
BDInfo:         0.5.8

PLAYLIST REPORT:

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Total Bitrate:          0.00 Mbps

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MPEG-4 MVC Video        3751 kbps                           

AUDIO:

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BD-Java: No
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Be sure to pick up the Lichtmond series as well. They're 3-D eye candy with cool music to boot. Alan Parsons has described Lichtmond as the next Tangerine Dream. Oh, and BTW, there will be a fourth installment this fall that will feature an ATMOS track.
I've read your reviews, but which Lichtmond do you recommend for a first purchase?
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Old 08-11-2016, 11:23 PM   #15
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Thanks to the posts here I just bought lichtmond 1,2 and 3d masterpieces vol. 1,2. Always happy to see more experimental 3d. I like synesthesia type movies so I'm sure I'll enjoy Lichtmond. The San Base stuff reminds me of those early shorts collections from the dawn of cgi. Just interesting stuff to look at. Sadly I'm not likely to buy Geography of the Universe as long as it's using burned discs. I'll keep an eye on them though.
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Old 08-12-2016, 12:36 AM   #16
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Interesting, surreal art work in 3D sounds promising.
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There's a pack of Lichtmond 1-3 that is lower in price than 2 individual releases. I justed added it to the database.

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Old 08-13-2016, 10:55 PM   #18
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There's a pack of Lichtmond 1-3 that is lower in price than 2 individual releases. I justed added it to the database.

I just looked at this. It said region B. Is there a region A version?
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Interesting, surreal art work in 3D sounds promising.
Remember the"Minds Eye" Series?
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I just looked at this. It said region B. Is there a region A version?


I have this, I don't see any region coding on the outer box or any of the individual boxes or discs.

If nobody else who's region free can test it at some point I guess I can, I haven't watched any of them yet.

Back on topic, I saw the San Base clip on Best Of 3D and while the 3D was nice, the rest of it was just like wallpaper to me. I didn't like the way the camera floated through structures, it just reminded me that what I was watching was fancy computer graphics like I used to do back in the 1990s.
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