Blu steps out of debate? - Blu-ray Forum

OokieSpookie · 11-27-2007, 09:18 PM

I would really like some insider information on this.

According to them blu backed out.

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/format-wa...ate-319696.php

No offense but I want to know why, because it makes us blu supporters look like jackasses.

juanleche · 11-27-2007, 09:21 PM

funny I never heard about this debate before, and howcome there is no author for that article, loussy reporting to me, makes the reporter and website look bad to me

haushausman · 11-27-2007, 09:29 PM

Blu-ray did the right thing. A master debater (

) can look like they won even with all the facts in plain sight.

Just another opportunity for HD-DVD to spin numbers/facts.

Bluray4Me · 11-27-2007, 09:35 PM

There really are some idiots commenting there....

Quote:

BY FASTM3DRIVER AT 03:33 PM

HD-DVD has had a size advantage since launch! 30GB vs 25GB! AND before you argue with me try to find a 50GB BR movie anywhere.They don't exist and 50GB hd-dvd disc's should be here any minute.
I just compared 2001 a space odyssey on a hd-a3 with planet earth on the PS3 and can easily say HD-DVD rules the roust for picture quality and interface.
IMHO

My God... *shakes head

tiger roach · 11-27-2007, 09:35 PM

Debates can only help the candidate who is behind.

mystiksuicide · 11-27-2007, 09:36 PM

At first something like this would shock me but not anymore. Blu did the right thing, look at how they twisted Sony's CEO words around

RUR · 11-27-2007, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiger roach

Debates can only help the candidate who is behind.

Bingo!

Ookie, you worry too much. Waaaay too much

nhaase · 11-27-2007, 09:46 PM

I would like to know who was going to participate in the debate. The article states the sides, but is it Toshiba for HD DVD, or Universal, or Paramount? The same question for blu-ray. Or is this all just someone "knowledgeable" about each format.

I would also like to see the statement from the BD camp announcing that they were backing out.

WickyWoo · 11-27-2007, 09:49 PM

From my read it says more that they simply refused

nhaase · 11-27-2007, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

From my read it says more that they simply refused

Do you happen to know who "they" are? I looked through the format war section of his site, and did not see any previous postings announcing this.

koreyman · 11-27-2007, 09:59 PM

I wouldnt worry we dont need to debat we are in the lead by far .

reiella · 11-27-2007, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OokieSpookie

I would really like some insider information on this.

According to them blu backed out.

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/format-wa...ate-319696.php

No offense but I want to know why, because it makes us blu supporters look like jackasses.

What I found really odd is how they placed the Blu and HD logos respectively.

Seems a bit odd that the 'entity' they're upset with is the one on the winning side of their little cartoon.

coolmilo · 11-27-2007, 10:04 PM

It does seem strange that NO ONE at Blu-ray.com even knew about the debate. This smells of DUD troll FUD.

OokieSpookie · 11-27-2007, 10:11 PM

Perhaps.
I just know that Blu needs to take a more agressive stance on working on public opinion.
Yes the facts are most definitely in our favor, but smear campaigns with no countered can also have an effect.
Youtube ads are cute and all but I just think blu needs to put more focus out there on the web by getting the facts out to tech sites that people listen to.
So many sites wear their hd bias on their sleeve like aintitcoolnews and others while blu seems to feel that public opinion doesn't matter.
We have the ads on tv, the only thing that hey have is the press.
The sooner we take that away then the sooner they have nothing left.

cking2729 · 11-27-2007, 10:13 PM

It is FUD. It's kinda sad too, as I have Gizmodo on my Bookmark Bar and frequent it daily. Other than their outdated "State of Blu-Ray" post, I've never seen any crap like this on 'modo before. But the author of the post is clearly a fanboy based on the title, "The Smell of Fear." Give me a friggin break! I guess his pride got hurt that the better format had more important things to do than debate with some d-bag they know will spin Dud's numbers and figures into something artificially hopeful?!?

And anyone with a respectable Tech blog like Gizmodo should know any post relating to the format war will result in FUD and fanboy bickering.

What's even worse is the Dud guys over at HDD take it and run like crazy. It's too bad M$ guys become instantly delusional any time it looks like they get a limb out of the grave. This war could have been over a long time ago....

Luis_A51 · 11-27-2007, 10:17 PM

Quote:And since studio supported evened up when Paramount went exclusively HD DVD, Blu-ray lost its main selling point.

HA!! What a load of crap. Paramount has released 1 real blockbuster and Universal might have one in Bourne. Bluray has the definite software advantage.

buckshot · 11-27-2007, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluray4Me

There really are some idiots commenting there....

My God... *shakes head

that does not surprise me one bit. we've all known that 90% of hd owners bought it because they are ignorant, missinformed, or were simply lied to.

Kierre · 11-27-2007, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluray4Me

There really are some idiots commenting there....

My God... *shakes head

Yup, and HD-DVD launched dual layers 15 X 2 out of the gate, and this is one of their primary slaps in the face. Blu-Ray FUTURE PROOFED their format and still keeps 100GB in the back pocket (we will never need it against DUD). Ever heard of shootin' your wad before it's time?! By the time you get a second chance, all parties may have lost interest

.

reiella · 11-27-2007, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kierre

Yup, and HD-DVD launched dual layers 15 X 2 out of the gate, and this is one of their primary slaps in the face. Blu-Ray FUTURE PROOFED their format and still keeps 100GB in the back pocket (we will never need it against DUD). Ever heard of shootin' your wad before it's time?! By the time you get a second chance, all parties may have lost interest

.

I'm really doubtful we'll see the utilization of triple or quad layers in this generation of optical medium. The return is just really ... not pleasant.

It's possible, yes, and would be a nice step, but I expect it's something that'll get pushed for the optical media backup side of things, which is another dying field.

Joe Cain · 11-27-2007, 10:49 PM

Funny, I seem to recall the HD-DVD side refused to put up a sparring partner for another such debate not too long ago...

11-27-2007, 09:18 PM	#1
OokieSpookie Banned Member since:Nov 2007 Trading Score:1	Blu steps out of debate? I would really like some insider information on this. According to them blu backed out. http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/format-wa...ate-319696.php No offense but I want to know why, because it makes us blu supporters look like jackasses.

11-27-2007, 09:29 PM	#3
haushausman Special Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Chicago Home Theater Gallery:12 Blu-ray collection:343 Blu-ray reviews: 5	Blu-ray did the right thing. A master debater () can look like they won even with all the facts in plain sight. Just another opportunity for HD-DVD to spin numbers/facts.

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11-27-2007, 09:21 PM	#2
juanleche Active Member Member since:Oct 2007	funny I never heard about this debate before, and howcome there is no author for that article, loussy reporting to me, makes the reporter and website look bad to me

11-27-2007, 09:35 PM	#5
tiger roach Special Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Houston, TX Blu-ray collection:141 Blu-ray reviews:1	Debates can only help the candidate who is behind.

11-27-2007, 09:36 PM	#6
mystiksuicide Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Miami Blu-ray collection:305 Blu-ray reviews:27	At first something like this would shock me but not anymore. Blu did the right thing, look at how they twisted Sony's CEO words around

11-27-2007, 09:46 PM	#8
nhaase Special Member Member since:Mar 2007 Trading Score:2	I would like to know who was going to participate in the debate. The article states the sides, but is it Toshiba for HD DVD, or Universal, or Paramount? The same question for blu-ray. Or is this all just someone "knowledgeable" about each format. I would also like to see the statement from the BD camp announcing that they were backing out.

11-27-2007, 09:49 PM	#9
WickyWoo Blu-ray Champion Member since:May 2007 Trading Score:2	From my read it says more that they simply refused

11-27-2007, 09:59 PM	#11
koreyman Active Member Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:12 Blu-ray collection:717 Blu-ray reviews:1	I wouldnt worry we dont need to debat we are in the lead by far .

11-27-2007, 10:04 PM	#13
coolmilo Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Silicon Valley Home Theater Gallery:16 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:2	It does seem strange that NO ONE at Blu-ray.com even knew about the debate. This smells of DUD troll FUD.

11-27-2007, 10:11 PM	#14
OokieSpookie Banned Member since:Nov 2007 Trading Score:1	Perhaps. I just know that Blu needs to take a more agressive stance on working on public opinion. Yes the facts are most definitely in our favor, but smear campaigns with no countered can also have an effect. Youtube ads are cute and all but I just think blu needs to put more focus out there on the web by getting the facts out to tech sites that people listen to. So many sites wear their hd bias on their sleeve like aintitcoolnews and others while blu seems to feel that public opinion doesn't matter. We have the ads on tv, the only thing that hey have is the press. The sooner we take that away then the sooner they have nothing left.

11-27-2007, 10:13 PM	#15
cking2729 Senior Member Member since:Nov 2007	It is FUD. It's kinda sad too, as I have Gizmodo on my Bookmark Bar and frequent it daily. Other than their outdated "State of Blu-Ray" post, I've never seen any crap like this on 'modo before. But the author of the post is clearly a fanboy based on the title, "The Smell of Fear." Give me a friggin break! I guess his pride got hurt that the better format had more important things to do than debate with some d-bag they know will spin Dud's numbers and figures into something artificially hopeful?!? And anyone with a respectable Tech blog like Gizmodo should know any post relating to the format war will result in FUD and fanboy bickering. What's even worse is the Dud guys over at HDD take it and run like crazy. It's too bad M$ guys become instantly delusional any time it looks like they get a limb out of the grave. This war could have been over a long time ago....

11-27-2007, 10:17 PM	#16
Luis_A51 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Calgary, AB Blu-ray reviews:4	Quote:And since studio supported evened up when Paramount went exclusively HD DVD, Blu-ray lost its main selling point. HA!! What a load of crap. Paramount has released 1 real blockbuster and Universal might have one in Bourne. Bluray has the definite software advantage.

11-27-2007, 10:49 PM	#20
Joe Cain Power Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:The Tragic City Blu-ray collection:79	Funny, I seem to recall the HD-DVD side refused to put up a sparring partner for another such debate not too long ago...

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