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Old 12-11-2014, 03:04 PM   #1
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Cool LG to show off new 55-inch 8K display at CES 2015

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LG Display is set to show off a new 160 ppi, 55-inch 8K display at the upcoming Consumer Electronics Show 2015.

The 55-inch 8K display bears a resolution of 7,680x4,320 pixels (that's 33.2 million pixels total), with over 20 display driver integrated circuits installed. A prototype was made in early November, while LG earlier this month decided to unveil the display at the upcoming CES.

LG ramped up the brightness of the Mabinogion to 500 nits using a new method of controlling the aperture ratio. "Unlike conventional displays that use RGB sub-pixels, LG added a W sub-pixel to increase the brightness," one of the sources said.

A PC with strengthened display was used during development. As there are no video sources that currently support 8K resolution, LG used 3D images generated by an unnamed high-quality Nvidia GPU during development, the insiders said. Nvidia's South Korean office also cooperated making the display and its driver ICs.

Mabinogion was not just developed as a showpiece to show off technological prowess but as a test-run to aim for mass production. "With the know-how acquired from making the prototype, if LG finds good grounds to commercialize the display for mass production, it will do so. LG has already finished up approving the technological viability of the 55-inch, 8K display, and is now starting preparation to commercialize it to make it a product."


LG Electronics, LG Display's biggest client, is also rumoured to be adding an 8K TV to its Full HD and 4K UHD TV models in next year's lineup.

An LG Display spokesman confirmed that it was developing 8K and other high-resolution displays that met the market trend, but declined to comment on specifics.

Anyway you look at it it's a good thing! Prices for Full HD and UHD sets will come down significantly in 2015, and people needing a bigger/better productivity space have 8k to turn to, movie buffs and videophiles can now watch/edit 4k in it's native resolution, and video gamers can play 4k at 120 frames per second!!!



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LG used 3D images generated by an unnamed high-quality Nvidia GPU during development, the insiders said. Nvidia's South Korean office also cooperated making the display and its driver ICs.


Does this mean an unofficial release of 8k enabled GPU's next year using Display Port 1.3?
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Old 12-11-2014, 09:19 PM   #2
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4K content isn't even readily available and they have 8K already coming out? lol what a joke!
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Old 12-14-2014, 03:07 PM   #3
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This is one of the reasons in a prior post a long time ago, I mentioned that the industry should make the new 4K optical disc format with the ability to be expanded to 8K quality with 500GB + optical discs. Unless streaming companies and optical disc providers start releasing 8K movies, there is really no need for 8K displays unless 3-D 4K content becomes a reality. If the new 4K optical disc format were to support 4K quality 3-D movies, then there would be a demand for 8K displays. With an 8K display with passive glasses then each eye would see a slightly different 4K image to produce a 3-D effect at true 4K quality.

The final specs for the 4K Blu-ray format has not been released yet. I doubt the new format will support 2-D 8K and it most likely will only support legacy 3-D 1080P frame packed movies and not true 3-D 4K movies. 3-D 4K movies are just starting to become a reality in some commercial movie theaters, and as far as I am aware no commercial movie theater is able to display 2-D movies at 8K quality yet.

It could take another 10+ years before 8K movies become a reality for the consumer market.

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Old 12-14-2014, 03:09 PM   #4
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LG to Sell 8K TVs In 2015?
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Old 12-14-2014, 04:55 PM   #5
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If the new 4K optical disc format were to support 4K quality 3-D movies, then there would be a demand for 8K displays. With an 8K display with passive glasses then each eye would see a slightly different 4K image to produce a 3-D effect at true 4K quality.
I don't think so. There's relatively little interest in 3D which is why 3D was barely mentioned at last year's CES. The fact that it's higher resolution isn't going to make a difference.

If 3D has any chance at all, it will have to be glasses-free.

And those first 8K sets are probably going to be at least $20,000, so like those $100,000+ 120" or larger displays, it's only going to be for the super-elite, price is absolutely no object crowd: CEOs, drug dealers, the Koch Brothers, A-list actors and musicians, etc.

Personally, I'd love to see 8K find its way into movie theatre digital projectors long before it finds its way into consumer devices. When you're projecting on a 30' to 60' screen, that's when that extra resolution makes a difference (assuming the movie is also shot at that resolution).

It's also a way to keep movie theatres and the film industry alive - by maintaining a substantial difference between what you can see in a theatre and what you can see in a home.
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Old 12-14-2014, 05:30 PM   #6
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Is that info correct about the 55inch 8K tv having 160 ppi? Even tablets like the ipad air have a ppi of 326. Going above 8k might be nuts, but there will clearly be room for it.
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Old 12-14-2014, 09:38 PM   #7
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, and video gamers can play 4k at 120 frames per second!!!
Why on earth would gamers need 8k btw? with even a 32" monitor 8k would go beyond what one can see. Besides two 980's aren't really powerful enough for 60fps gaming at uhd, let alone 8k. Sure some older game will be easy like le4d2 I can render at 4160p @60fps and above, but the reality is newer games is what most people play and uhd already sees a huge diminish in return from 1440p/1600p when compared to the jump from 1080p. Let alone going beyond that.

As for films, we are only starting to get a small number of 4k DI's being used. So I agree uhd is more interesting for pc gamers in the next few years. But pc gamers with a good enough system are going to be a very small minority. It will be great for workflow I agree.
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Why on earth would gamers need 8k btw? with even a 32" monitor 8k would go beyond what one can see. Besides two 980's aren't really powerful enough for 60fps gaming at uhd, let alone 8k. Sure some older game will be easy like le4d2 I can render at 4160p @60fps and above, but the reality is newer games is what most people play and uhd already sees a huge diminish in return from 1440p/1600p when compared to the jump from 1080p. Let alone going beyond that.

As for films, we are only starting to get a small number of 4k DI's being used. So I agree uhd is more interesting for pc gamers in the next few years. But pc gamers with a good enough system are going to be a very small minority. It will be great for workflow I agree.
Who says a gamer needs to play at 8k on an 8k monitor/TV? One could simply play 4k@120hz till the technology catches up, besides the first ones to buy 8k will be professionals for their productivity needs.

Also, 8k is also the only way to watch 4k cinema in it's native resolution. The most important thing about 8k is not 8k itself, but the things it will bring with it! Rec. 2020 Color Space, higher frame rates, accelerated adoption of Interface technologies "HDMI 3.0/DP 1.3"

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Old 12-16-2014, 02:02 PM   #9
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First 4K? NOW 8K? Standards havent even been finalized for 4K and now LG is rolling out 8K? LOL what a joke. But I will give LG credit because they are way ahead of the competition.
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First 4K? NOW 8K? Standards havent even been finalized for 4K and now LG is rolling out 8K? LOL what a joke. But I will give LG credit because they are way ahead of the competition.
Someone Panasonic or Samsung showed off 8K 2 years ago at CES
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Why on earth would gamers need 8k btw? with even a 32" monitor 8k would go beyond what one can see. Besides two 980's aren't really powerful enough for 60fps gaming at uhd, let alone 8k. Sure some older game will be easy like le4d2 I can render at 4160p @60fps and above, but the reality is newer games is what most people play and uhd already sees a huge diminish in return from 1440p/1600p when compared to the jump from 1080p. Let alone going beyond that.

As for films, we are only starting to get a small number of 4k DI's being used. So I agree uhd is more interesting for pc gamers in the next few years. But pc gamers with a good enough system are going to be a very small minority. It will be great for workflow I agree.
3x Titan Black in SLI can do 8K for gamers =0)
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Old 12-16-2014, 06:45 PM   #12
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"8K" "55 inch" LOL.
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"8K" "55 inch" LOL.
My thoughts exactly.

I have a 60" 1080p at home that looks great (Pioneer Elite Kuro) if I'm going to be upgrading, it'll have to be a bigger display size, with more pixels, not smaller with more cramped pixels.

I'm hoping LGs 4K OLED TVs come down in price this year
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Sharp just announced a simulated 8k TV for April, with prices starting at $3,200 for the 70" inch and $6000 for the 80"......I know what I'm getting next Christmas!
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My thoughts exactly.

I have a 60" 1080p at home that looks great (Pioneer Elite Kuro) if I'm going to be upgrading, it'll have to be a bigger display size, with more pixels, not smaller with more cramped pixels.

I'm hoping LGs 4K OLED TVs come down in price this year
Can we just have OLED 1080p or 4K doesn't matter to me, at 9 feet from a 60' I couldn't tell the difference.
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