It's Official: FOX Considering Firefly Reboot - Blu-ray Forum

kemcha · 02-09-2017, 05:53 PM

Well, it's official, and this is no April Fools joke either. It's being reported that Fox Studios is considering a reboot of the Firely series but that they will only do a new series with Josh Whedon.

For fans who have been pestering Fox Studios and John Whedon about this, it could be great news but that it all depends on whether or not Whedon would agree to return to Fox Studios and either reboot the series or to continue where the series left off.

According to the article being reported on ComicBook.com:

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The folks at Fox often ask if they would ever be willing to make a reboot of Firefly, or at least revisit the original with some more episodes. With X-Files, Prison Break, and 24 all getting new shows, is it really out of the question?

According to Fox President Of Entertainment David Madden, the option for more Firefly is on the table. There's only one condition:

Joss Whedon has to be on board if it's going to get made.

It's because of Whedon that the show became the landmark that it was, and Fox doesn't want to get involved without him. They know it could be a hit, but they aren't willing to drop the show's identity.

Madden was sure enough about his decision to mention that he wouldn't even consider the possibility without Whedon's involvement.

http://comicbook.com/2017/02/09/fox-...one-condition/

This is awesome news!!!

Samus Aran · 02-09-2017, 06:09 PM

Well everyone (who hasn't been killed off) is available now except Adam Baldwin, Morena Baccarin (who has one of the most underwritten and useless roles on Gotham, and that's saying something!) and Gina Torres (depending on what her role is on The Catch).

kemcha · 02-09-2017, 06:19 PM

Well, I think the best thing they could do is a reboot. But, Whedon could just as easily retcon Wash's death. Since Ron White passed away some time ago, he could be a tougher choice. But, there could also be the choice to recast the characters with other actors and just continue where the first season left off.

But, I think the best chance would be just to reboot the series and recast. I would like to see the original cast return but since they've all mostly gone their separate way, I doubt they would return.

reaperx187 · 02-09-2017, 06:44 PM

I always thought that if this didn't end up back on FOX that it could of been picked up by Netflix instead even if it was for another season or maybe more.

kemcha · 02-09-2017, 07:04 PM

The firefly series would never be found on Netflix. What many fans don't realize is that Fox Studios owns the rights to the firefly TV series. The movie rights are something different. Netflix couldn't produce a firefly series because of this. Josh Whedon has said that one of the reasons why he didn't return to bring back the series in the past was because Fox owns the rights to the series, including home video and digital rights.

The studio execs know full well about the potential behind firefly, much in the same way as how they own the rights to the first Star Wars movie. The only way Netflix of Hulu could ever produce a new firefly series is if they licensed the rights from Fox. With new interested from David Madden, it looks like they could be talking to Josh Whedon about a possible reboot for the series.

Before anyone asks, it's true that SyFy broadcasted the series on their network but that SyFy had acquired some limited rebroadcast rights to the original series.

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Originally Posted by reaperx187

I always thought that if this didn't end up back on FOX that it could of been picked up by Netflix instead even if it was for another season or maybe more.

stvn1974 · 02-09-2017, 07:10 PM

Joss Whedon is not going to go back to this unless it is a continuation from Serenity with the original cast. Never going to happen so I won't be getting my hopes up in the least.

reaperx187 · 02-09-2017, 07:17 PM

Serenity was such an surprise from the TV show into the film believe i caught it at the movies before when it had come out before.

kevin87 · 02-09-2017, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kemcha

Well, I think the best thing they could do is a reboot. But, Whedon could just as easily retcon Wash's death. Since Ron White passed away some time ago, he could be a tougher choice. But, there could also be the choice to recast the characters with other actors and just continue where the first season left off.

But, I think the best chance would be just to reboot the series and recast. I would like to see the original cast return but since they've all mostly gone their separate way, I doubt they would return.

I'd watch a continuation... but a reboot is a bad idea, as bad as unkilling characters.

kemcha · 02-09-2017, 08:24 PM

Tell me about it. While there were earlier attempts to bring firefly back, Josh Whedon has expressed some ambivalence about returning to a firefly reboot or continuation. I think that the series wouldn't work without Nathan Fillion, Morena Baccarin, Jewel Stait and Adam Baldwin. Those four (sans Ron White) were the core of the series. I would love to see the original cast return but that Josh Whedon is a major question mark. It's doubtful he would agree to return to reboot or continue firefly. The smart thing would be to continue where the events left off from the first season.

However, I think a soft reboot could also work. Continuing the series from where the Serenity movie left off but retconning Wash's death.

Groot · 02-09-2017, 08:27 PM

I ain't watching no Firefly/Serenity without Nathan as Mal.

Samus Aran · 02-09-2017, 08:34 PM

Why do you keep bringing up retconning Wash's death? That would be a soap opera thing to do.

Rodney-2187 · 02-09-2017, 08:42 PM

They canceled the excellent Almost Human and replaced it with the lesser Minority Report. That didn't work so they are looking for something.

kemcha · 02-09-2017, 08:45 PM

I brought it up because the subject is heavily debated among the firefly community, even after the movie was first released. It's one of the most contentious aspects of firefly that a lot of fans still debate, not just here on these forums. I've actually talked to some of them and there is a lot of concern over whether Whedon did that just to shock the audience because the character's death made absolutely no sense to the storyline of the Serenity movie.

I know there was a push, some years ago, to retcon the events of the movie, in the event that the firefly series was ever restarted from where the first season left off.

ArrestedDevelopment · 02-09-2017, 08:50 PM

No original cast = no dice

Fox doesn't deserve a shot at redemption with the way they treated Firefly.

kemcha · 02-09-2017, 09:16 PM

I have to admit, Fox really doesn't deserve another chance. Even though they have expressed a desire to dig back into the series, the likelihood of Josh Whedon returning to bring back firefly is practically a non-starter. While I appreciate Fox's desire to bring this series back, there are serious doubts as to whether they could get either Josh Whedon or the original cast to return.

Personally, I doubt that Fox will be able to convince Whedon to return. I remember, in the years after the series was first released to DVD and even after the Serenity movie was released, that Whedon kept telling fans through his website, Whedonesque, that he had no desire to return to the series.

The original cast is even more doubtful since the majority of them have moved on to other projects. Morena Baccarin is still attached to Gotham, Gina Torres has recently finished a stint on Suits, Alan Tudyk is attached to Powerless, Adam Baldwin is attached to The Last Ship and Jewel Stait continues to appear in a variety of motion pictures. The original cast is simply spread out all over the map.

But, according to Madden, it all depends on Whedon.

Michael24 · 02-09-2017, 09:17 PM

I would have been all for this about ten years ago, as Firefly is the only Joss Whedon project I ever liked, but nowadays I'm like "Eh." (Kinda like with the X-Files revival.) While I still enjoy watching Serenity every now and then, I feel like too much time has passed for me to really care about Firefly in a big way anymore.

kemcha · 02-09-2017, 09:32 PM

Tell me about it. I just don't like these networks who do these television series continuation projects. X-Files and Gilmore girls are two excellent examples as to why television networks need to stop doing these revitalization projects. Even The CW is learning this lesson, with the Charmed reboot having been pushed back once again.

Once a television series is ended, it should remain there. A-Team, Bewitched, Murder She Wrote ... these are all reboots that have ended up being canceled before they even entered production. It's also why I'm dreading that Magnum P.i. reboot series.

kevin87 · 02-09-2017, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kemcha

I brought it up because the subject is heavily debated among the firefly community, even after the movie was first released. It's one of the most contentious aspects of firefly that a lot of fans still debate, not just here on these forums. I've actually talked to some of them and there is a lot of concern over whether Whedon did that just to shock the audience because the character's death made absolutely no sense to the storyline of the Serenity movie.

I know there was a push, some years ago, to retcon the events of the movie, in the event that the firefly series was ever restarted from where the first season left off.

That's just what Whedon does, his projects end so he kills people off.

[Show spoiler]

on Buffy,

[Show spoiler]

on Dollhouse, Wash on Firefly/Serenity. Hell, multiple Angels characters died throughout the run and

[Show spoiler]

dies in the finale.

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Originally Posted by Michael24

I would have been all for this about ten years ago, as Firefly is the only Joss Whedon project I ever liked

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Originally Posted by kemcha

Tell me about it. I just don't like these networks who do these television series continuation projects. X-Files and Gilmore girls are two excellent examples as to why television networks need to stop doing these revitalization projects. Even The CW is learning this lesson, with the Charmed reboot having been pushed back once again.

Once a television series is ended, it should remain there. A-Team, Bewitched, Murder She Wrote ... these are all reboots that have ended up being canceled before they even entered production. It's also why I'm dreading that Magnum P.i. reboot series.

Wasn't Charmed a complete reboot, or am I just confusing it with the other Charmed project? I think I read there was one that was a continuation and one that was a reboot.

BluRayTim · 02-09-2017, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kemcha

Tell me about it. While there were earlier attempts to bring firefly back, Josh Whedon has expressed some ambivalence about returning to a firefly reboot or continuation. I think that the series wouldn't work without Nathan Fillion, Morena Baccarin, Jewel Stait and Adam Baldwin. Those four (sans Ron White) were the core of the series. I would love to see the original cast return but that Josh Whedon is a major question mark. It's doubtful he would agree to return to reboot or continue firefly. The smart thing would be to continue where the events left off from the first season.

However, I think a soft reboot could also work. Continuing the series from where the Serenity movie left off but retconning Wash's death.

It's Joss, not Josh. And, it's Ron Glass, not Ron White.

I don't mean to be snide, but I figure I try to help out in anyway that I can. I apologize if I come across as snide. Again, it's 100% unintentional.

kemcha · 02-09-2017, 11:46 PM

Slip of the tongue on my part. HEH. But, in any event, while I'd love to see this series return, Whedon has expressed a disinterest in Fox. I remember when firefly originally broadcasted on Fox and it had a sporadic broadcast history, aired out of order and that I thought the Western theme for the series was odd for a science fiction series.

02-09-2017, 06:09 PM	#2
Samus Aran Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Jun 2010 Location:USA Home Theater Gallery:11 4K collection:14 Blu-ray collection:49 Trading Score:195	Well everyone (who hasn't been killed off) is available now except Adam Baldwin, Morena Baccarin (who has one of the most underwritten and useless roles on Gotham, and that's saying something!) and Gina Torres (depending on what her role is on The Catch).

02-09-2017, 06:19 PM	#3
kemcha Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Dec 2009 Location:Michigan, USA 4K collection:18 Blu-ray collection:344 Blu-ray reviews:18 Trading Score:32	Well, I think the best thing they could do is a reboot. But, Whedon could just as easily retcon Wash's death. Since Ron White passed away some time ago, he could be a tougher choice. But, there could also be the choice to recast the characters with other actors and just continue where the first season left off. But, I think the best chance would be just to reboot the series and recast. I would like to see the original cast return but since they've all mostly gone their separate way, I doubt they would return.

02-09-2017, 06:44 PM	#4
reaperx187 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jan 2010 Location:Newark, DE 4K collection:221 Blu-ray collection:1477 DVD collection:77	I always thought that if this didn't end up back on FOX that it could of been picked up by Netflix instead even if it was for another season or maybe more.

02-09-2017, 07:10 PM	#6
stvn1974 Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jan 2012 Location:Earth Trading Score:18	Joss Whedon is not going to go back to this unless it is a continuation from Serenity with the original cast. Never going to happen so I won't be getting my hopes up in the least.

02-09-2017, 07:17 PM	#7
reaperx187 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jan 2010 Location:Newark, DE 4K collection:221 Blu-ray collection:1477 DVD collection:77	Serenity was such an surprise from the TV show into the film believe i caught it at the movies before when it had come out before.

02-09-2017, 08:24 PM	#9
kemcha Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Dec 2009 Location:Michigan, USA 4K collection:18 Blu-ray collection:344 Blu-ray reviews:18 Trading Score:32	Tell me about it. While there were earlier attempts to bring firefly back, Josh Whedon has expressed some ambivalence about returning to a firefly reboot or continuation. I think that the series wouldn't work without Nathan Fillion, Morena Baccarin, Jewel Stait and Adam Baldwin. Those four (sans Ron White) were the core of the series. I would love to see the original cast return but that Josh Whedon is a major question mark. It's doubtful he would agree to return to reboot or continue firefly. The smart thing would be to continue where the events left off from the first season. However, I think a soft reboot could also work. Continuing the series from where the Serenity movie left off but retconning Wash's death.

02-09-2017, 08:27 PM	#10
Groot Banned Member since:Aug 2015 Location:Thanos Cock Trading Score:14	I ain't watching no Firefly/Serenity without Nathan as Mal.

02-09-2017, 08:34 PM	#11
Samus Aran Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Jun 2010 Location:USA Home Theater Gallery:11 4K collection:14 Blu-ray collection:49 Trading Score:195	Why do you keep bringing up retconning Wash's death? That would be a soap opera thing to do.

02-09-2017, 08:42 PM	#12
Rodney-2187 Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Jan 2014 4K collection:31 Blu-ray collection:416 DVD collection:149 MA collection:716 Digital collection:366 iTunes collection:762 Prime collection:729 Trading Score:82	They canceled the excellent Almost Human and replaced it with the lesser Minority Report. That didn't work so they are looking for something.

02-09-2017, 08:45 PM	#13
kemcha Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Dec 2009 Location:Michigan, USA 4K collection:18 Blu-ray collection:344 Blu-ray reviews:18 Trading Score:32	I brought it up because the subject is heavily debated among the firefly community, even after the movie was first released. It's one of the most contentious aspects of firefly that a lot of fans still debate, not just here on these forums. I've actually talked to some of them and there is a lot of concern over whether Whedon did that just to shock the audience because the character's death made absolutely no sense to the storyline of the Serenity movie. I know there was a push, some years ago, to retcon the events of the movie, in the event that the firefly series was ever restarted from where the first season left off.

02-09-2017, 08:50 PM	#14
ArrestedDevelopment Banned Top contributor Member since:Jul 2009 Location:The O.C. 4K collection:489 Blu-ray collection:1622 DVD collection:68	No original cast = no dice Fox doesn't deserve a shot at redemption with the way they treated Firefly.

02-09-2017, 09:16 PM	#15
kemcha Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Dec 2009 Location:Michigan, USA 4K collection:18 Blu-ray collection:344 Blu-ray reviews:18 Trading Score:32	I have to admit, Fox really doesn't deserve another chance. Even though they have expressed a desire to dig back into the series, the likelihood of Josh Whedon returning to bring back firefly is practically a non-starter. While I appreciate Fox's desire to bring this series back, there are serious doubts as to whether they could get either Josh Whedon or the original cast to return. Personally, I doubt that Fox will be able to convince Whedon to return. I remember, in the years after the series was first released to DVD and even after the Serenity movie was released, that Whedon kept telling fans through his website, Whedonesque, that he had no desire to return to the series. The original cast is even more doubtful since the majority of them have moved on to other projects. Morena Baccarin is still attached to Gotham, Gina Torres has recently finished a stint on Suits, Alan Tudyk is attached to Powerless, Adam Baldwin is attached to The Last Ship and Jewel Stait continues to appear in a variety of motion pictures. The original cast is simply spread out all over the map. But, according to Madden, it all depends on Whedon.

02-09-2017, 09:17 PM	#16
Michael24 Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Nov 2009 Location:California 4K collection:11 Blu-ray collection:552 DVD collection:164 Trading Score:2	I would have been all for this about ten years ago, as Firefly is the only Joss Whedon project I ever liked, but nowadays I'm like "Eh." (Kinda like with the X-Files revival.) While I still enjoy watching Serenity every now and then, I feel like too much time has passed for me to really care about Firefly in a big way anymore.

02-09-2017, 09:32 PM	#17
kemcha Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Dec 2009 Location:Michigan, USA 4K collection:18 Blu-ray collection:344 Blu-ray reviews:18 Trading Score:32	Tell me about it. I just don't like these networks who do these television series continuation projects. X-Files and Gilmore girls are two excellent examples as to why television networks need to stop doing these revitalization projects. Even The CW is learning this lesson, with the Charmed reboot having been pushed back once again. Once a television series is ended, it should remain there. A-Team, Bewitched, Murder She Wrote ... these are all reboots that have ended up being canceled before they even entered production. It's also why I'm dreading that Magnum P.i. reboot series.

02-09-2017, 11:46 PM	#20
kemcha Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Dec 2009 Location:Michigan, USA 4K collection:18 Blu-ray collection:344 Blu-ray reviews:18 Trading Score:32	Slip of the tongue on my part. HEH. But, in any event, while I'd love to see this series return, Whedon has expressed a disinterest in Fox. I remember when firefly originally broadcasted on Fox and it had a sporadic broadcast history, aired out of order and that I thought the Western theme for the series was odd for a science fiction series.

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