Amazon 4k Fire TV - Blu-ray Forum

dvdmike · 09-17-2015, 05:35 PM

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Amazon Fire TV—the new Amazon Fire TV with support for 4K Ultra HD, and the new Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote. The new Amazon Fire TV is available for pre-order today for just $99.99 at http://www.amazon.com/firetv, and will start shipping on October 5. Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote is available for pre-order today for $49.99 at http://www.amazon.com/firetvstick, and will start shipping October 22. Fire TV Stick is also still available for purchase for $39.99 at http://www.amazon.com/fire-tv-stick.

https://developer.amazon.com/public/...red-By-Fire-OS

socal9 · 09-18-2015, 05:47 PM

What kind of download speeds do you need for 4K streams?

Zero_Cool · 09-20-2015, 09:25 AM

So my tv is 4k would this help me in any way viewing wise?

master gandhi · 09-21-2015, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by socal9

What kind of download speeds do you need for 4K streams?

Netflix says 25 Mbps for 4K, I believe.

spectre08 · 09-21-2015, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Zero_Cool

So my tv is 4k would this help me in any way viewing wise?

that depends. depending on your model of tv you probably already have the Amazon Prime and Netflix 4K apps built in, so taht's not really a benefit to you.

If you like the OTHER features of firetv, like mirroring from a fire tablet, the voice command, playing games, etc. then go for it.

The 4K is more to make sure that people with 4K tvs CAN use the FireTV rather than provide a real "value add."

A FireTV without 4K is basically useless for somebody with a 4K tv, since they would have to use the TV's apps to get 4K content from Prime or Netflix anyways.

dvdmike · 09-23-2015, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by spectre08

that depends. depending on your model of tv you probably already have the Amazon Prime and Netflix 4K apps built in, so taht's not really a benefit to you.

If you like the OTHER features of firetv, like mirroring from a fire tablet, the voice command, playing games, etc. then go for it.

The 4K is more to make sure that people with 4K tvs CAN use the FireTV rather than provide a real "value add."

A FireTV without 4K is basically useless for somebody with a 4K tv, since they would have to use the TV's apps to get 4K content from Prime or Netflix anyways.

Amazon is not 4k on all TV's plus this will run better

jamfan75 · 09-23-2015, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by master gandhi

Netflix says 25 Mbps for 4K, I believe.

I was concerned about being on the edge of 4k-capability. I have a consistent 18 Mbps through AT&T U-Verse and I am able to stream 4k via both Netflix and Amazon successfully so far.

Mr. Cinema · 10-06-2015, 08:12 PM

I have the original Fire TV and received the new one yesterday from Amazon. What I love about this box is the wi-fi coverage is excellent. Even on my 2nd floor, I get 1080p streams via wireless. My router is downstairs. Also, these boxes are extremely fast while browsing. I don't have a 4K tv, but the addition of Alexa is nice. It's the exact same size box as the 1st gen. Unfortunately, the tutorial on the 4K version is longer and I don't think there is a way to skip it during the setup.

FYI, if you are planning on getting the "gaming" version, it DOES NOT come with the voice remote. I assumed it did, but it's an extra $30.

I have the Apple TV and have tried the Roku and Google Nexus player and the Fire TV blows them away in terms of wi-fi signal and navigating speed. I'm sure the new Apple TV will see improvements, but I think overall, the Fire is my favorite streaming device.

dvdmike · 10-06-2015, 09:29 PM

Mine came today, but I missed the delivery and have to pop to the post office tomorrow.
Lucky I am off tomorrow to play and get kodi on it

Mr. Cinema · 10-07-2015, 02:31 PM

The remote on the 4K unit is a tad longer than the 1st gen. It's also a bit more difficult to navigate with. The directional buttons sometimes have to be pressed harder, and it can be tough to get the battery cover off the back. For me, the 1st gen remote is more comfortable to use.

AnemicOak · 10-07-2015, 02:39 PM

They've temporarily dropped the price on the new Fire TV to $79 ($59 if you have Amazon Student) in case anyone is interested...

http://www.aftvnews.com/2nd-gen-amaz...-99-at-amazon/

EDIT: Looks like the price may have already gone back up.

Adam_ME · 10-07-2015, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jamfan75

I was concerned about being on the edge of 4k-capability. I have a consistent 18 Mbps through AT&T U-Verse and I am able to stream 4k via both Netflix and Amazon successfully so far.

Yeah, I get around 21-22 Mbps in my media room(my connection is supposed to be up to 100 Mbps, but clearly that's not the case). I've been able to stream Amazon 4k content on my TV without any buffering issues so far.

dvdmike · 10-07-2015, 05:13 PM

Mine turned up and they have disabled USB storage

Ugh

Mr. Cinema · 10-20-2015, 01:31 PM

The new Fire TV has been plagued with bugs and other issues. It was clearly not ready for release. Luckily, it appears Amazon is working on various problems that will hopefully fix the awful remote problems and system freezes.

http://www.aftvnews.com/amazon-is-di...rt/#more-10311

Wally Q · 10-20-2015, 03:21 PM

All I've been hearing is problems with Dolby Digital Plus not working for apps besides Amazon Instand Video or something along those lines. I'm considering picking one up so I can stop using my PS3 when I'm not using it for Blu-ray or gaming purposes, so I'm hoping the extra wait in November will fix the bugs they've been having.

Haven't heard anything bad about the remote, though.

Mr. Cinema · 10-20-2015, 04:11 PM

The remote loses connection to the box and you have to unplug the device and replug to get it to work. Amazon has pulled the stock while they work on the numerous issues. The other big problem for me is the volume is much lower vs the 1st gen box. But that is being fixed too. They are showing an 11/4 date for new stock. I would think all the issues are ironed out.

The good news is the hardware is fine, so a software update or two will correct everything. The 1st gen box definitely improved from updates.

Mobe1969 · 10-21-2015, 06:12 AM

I wish these type of devices would have actual storage, and download stuff you want to watch, so you can, say, I don't know, download on a slower link at full 4k when you are away at work, and then say, enjoy it un-stuttering in 4K at home when you watch it later? Is that such a revolutionary idea?

dvdmike · 10-24-2015, 02:39 PM

Brokenbrokenbrokenbrokenbrokenbrokenbroken

huskerbear · 10-26-2015, 01:41 PM

Vudu just rolled out 4K, but Amazons box doesn't even have Vudu......no sale.

Wally Q · 10-26-2015, 02:22 PM

I'm starting to rethink my position and might go with the Roku 3.

10-07-2015, 02:39 PM	#11
AnemicOak Special Member Member since:Aug 2012 Location:Archbury Blu-ray collection:265 Digital collection:1127 Trading Score:91	They've temporarily dropped the price on the new Fire TV to $79 ($59 if you have Amazon Student) in case anyone is interested... http://www.aftvnews.com/2nd-gen-amaz...-99-at-amazon/ EDIT: Looks like the price may have already gone back up. Last edited by AnemicOak; 10-07-2015 at 02:49 PM.

09-18-2015, 05:47 PM	#2
socal9 Special Member Member since:Jun 2015 Location:U.S. Trading Score:124	What kind of download speeds do you need for 4K streams?

09-20-2015, 09:25 AM	#3
Zero_Cool Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jun 2009 Blu-ray collection:426 DVD collection:2 Trading Score:81	So my tv is 4k would this help me in any way viewing wise?

10-06-2015, 08:12 PM	#8
Mr. Cinema Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jan 2008 Location:NC 4K collection:34 Blu-ray collection:35 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:85	I have the original Fire TV and received the new one yesterday from Amazon. What I love about this box is the wi-fi coverage is excellent. Even on my 2nd floor, I get 1080p streams via wireless. My router is downstairs. Also, these boxes are extremely fast while browsing. I don't have a 4K tv, but the addition of Alexa is nice. It's the exact same size box as the 1st gen. Unfortunately, the tutorial on the 4K version is longer and I don't think there is a way to skip it during the setup. FYI, if you are planning on getting the "gaming" version, it DOES NOT come with the voice remote. I assumed it did, but it's an extra $30. I have the Apple TV and have tried the Roku and Google Nexus player and the Fire TV blows them away in terms of wi-fi signal and navigating speed. I'm sure the new Apple TV will see improvements, but I think overall, the Fire is my favorite streaming device.

10-06-2015, 09:29 PM	#9
dvdmike Banned Member since:Jun 2010 Blu-ray collection:1069	Mine came today, but I missed the delivery and have to pop to the post office tomorrow. Lucky I am off tomorrow to play and get kodi on it

10-07-2015, 02:31 PM	#10
Mr. Cinema Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jan 2008 Location:NC 4K collection:34 Blu-ray collection:35 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:85	The remote on the 4K unit is a tad longer than the 1st gen. It's also a bit more difficult to navigate with. The directional buttons sometimes have to be pressed harder, and it can be tough to get the battery cover off the back. For me, the 1st gen remote is more comfortable to use.

10-07-2015, 05:13 PM	#13
dvdmike Banned Member since:Jun 2010 Blu-ray collection:1069	Mine turned up and they have disabled USB storage Ugh

10-20-2015, 01:31 PM	#14
Mr. Cinema Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jan 2008 Location:NC 4K collection:34 Blu-ray collection:35 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:85	The new Fire TV has been plagued with bugs and other issues. It was clearly not ready for release. Luckily, it appears Amazon is working on various problems that will hopefully fix the awful remote problems and system freezes. http://www.aftvnews.com/amazon-is-di...rt/#more-10311

10-20-2015, 03:21 PM	#15
Wally Q Banned Member since:Sep 2011 Location:12771 4K collection:570 Blu-ray collection:1981 DVD collection:150 Digital collection:6 Trading Score:1	All I've been hearing is problems with Dolby Digital Plus not working for apps besides Amazon Instand Video or something along those lines. I'm considering picking one up so I can stop using my PS3 when I'm not using it for Blu-ray or gaming purposes, so I'm hoping the extra wait in November will fix the bugs they've been having. Haven't heard anything bad about the remote, though.

10-20-2015, 04:11 PM	#16
Mr. Cinema Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jan 2008 Location:NC 4K collection:34 Blu-ray collection:35 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:85	The remote loses connection to the box and you have to unplug the device and replug to get it to work. Amazon has pulled the stock while they work on the numerous issues. The other big problem for me is the volume is much lower vs the 1st gen box. But that is being fixed too. They are showing an 11/4 date for new stock. I would think all the issues are ironed out. The good news is the hardware is fine, so a software update or two will correct everything. The 1st gen box definitely improved from updates.

10-21-2015, 06:12 AM	#17
Mobe1969 Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Brisbane, Australia 4K collection:980 Blu-ray collection:1610	I wish these type of devices would have actual storage, and download stuff you want to watch, so you can, say, I don't know, download on a slower link at full 4k when you are away at work, and then say, enjoy it un-stuttering in 4K at home when you watch it later? Is that such a revolutionary idea?

10-24-2015, 02:39 PM	#18
dvdmike Banned Member since:Jun 2010 Blu-ray collection:1069	Brokenbrokenbrokenbrokenbrokenbrokenbroken

10-26-2015, 01:41 PM	#19
huskerbear Senior Member Member since:Jul 2011 Blu-ray collection:1 Trading Score:84	Vudu just rolled out 4K, but Amazons box doesn't even have Vudu......no sale.

10-26-2015, 02:22 PM	#20
Wally Q Banned Member since:Sep 2011 Location:12771 4K collection:570 Blu-ray collection:1981 DVD collection:150 Digital collection:6 Trading Score:1	I'm starting to rethink my position and might go with the Roku 3.

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