Pal Joey (1957) - Blu-ray Forum

MifuneFan · 06-24-2021, 01:54 PM

Sony will be releasing Pal Joey (1957) on Blu-ray on July 20th. The film was previously released by Twilight Time, and included in Mill Creek's Rita Hayworth Collection.

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Based on the hit Rodgers and Hart musical of the same name, PAL JOEY follows Joey Evans (Frank Sinatra, From Here to Eternity), a charming nightclub singer who is very popular with the chorus girls in his show. Joey has a comfortable relationship with Vera (Rita Hayworth, Gilda), a former dancer who is now a rich widow. But when Linda (Kim Novak, Vertigo) enters his life, Joey suddenly has to choose between convenience and something far more substantial.

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Torgon · 06-24-2021, 02:13 PM

Looks like Sony has made this and Bye, Bye Birdie part of their MOD program. Both are former Twilight Time blu-rays. What else may be coming?

lilboyblu · 06-24-2021, 08:06 PM

Pal Joey is one of the titles in Mill Creek's Rita Hayworth Collection too.

jtsjc1 · 06-24-2021, 10:49 PM

Great version of The Lady Is A Tramp.

Jar Jar Stinks · 06-25-2021, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by lilboyblu

Pal Joey is one of the titles in Mill Creek's Rita Hayworth Collection too.

I paid $13 for that set. Considering Sony was the source of Mill Creek's disc, how different can Sony's new $27 disc be?

Brian81 · 06-25-2021, 09:01 PM

Seeing the difference between the Sony release Picnic and the Twilight Time on Caps site, makes me think Twilight Time releases still may be the way to go. Too bad they are more expensive.

Jar Jar Stinks · 06-25-2021, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jar Jar Stinks

I paid $13 for that set. Considering Sony was the source of Mill Creek's disc, how different can Sony's new $27 disc be?

I found this post in the Rita Hayworth Ultimate Collection thread:

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Originally Posted by Thad Komorowski

PAL JOEY is encoded here at about 57% the rate as the Twilight Time BD. I did a 1:1 comparison for curiosity's sake and it's the same transfer. And it looks like sh*t here.

So, if true, that's the answer.

lilboyblu · 06-25-2021, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jar Jar Stinks

I found this post in the Rita Hayworth Ultimate Collection thread:

So, if true, that's the answer.

Yikes. Glad others will have a chance to get this on a disc of its own again then. I too picked up the Rita Hayworth Collection thinking I'd sell off my TT Pal Joey as to avoid duplicates, but I guess that would be a bad idea.

dukiejosh54 · 06-25-2021, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian81

Seeing the difference between the Sony release Picnic and the Twilight Time on Caps site, makes me think Twilight Time releases still may be the way to go. Too bad they are more expensive.

Is that true for Oliver! (1968) As well? I bought the 2018 Sony MOD release thinking it would probably be exactly the same or better than the twilight time release.

Jar Jar Stinks · 06-26-2021, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by dukiejosh54

Is that true for Oliver! (1968) As well? I bought the 2018 Sony MOD release thinking it would probably be exactly the same or better than the twilight time release.

Oliver is being released on 4k UHD soon.

rdodolak · 06-26-2021, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jar Jar Stinks

I paid $13 for that set. Considering Sony was the source of Mill Creek's disc, how different can Sony's new $27 disc be?

It wouldn't surprise me if the Sony had much better compression.

Brian81 · 06-27-2021, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dukiejosh54

Is that true for Oliver! (1968) As well? I bought the 2018 Sony MOD release thinking it would probably be exactly the same or better than the twilight time release.

I thought about picking up the Picnic for the original poster art cover, but the compression is worse than the TT. I can't say it is for the others or will be for the others, but compression has never really been an issue in the TT titles I've picked up. Sometimes they used old and ugly masters, but at least they were technically proficient on the encoding end.

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=2&x...0&l=0&i=1&go=1

I know it is zoomed here but look at her face and the part of the siding to the left of it in the shadow.

dukiejosh54 · 06-27-2021, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian81

I thought about picking up the Picnic for the original poster art cover, but the compression is worse than the TT. I can't say it is for the others or will be for the others, but compression has never really been an issue in the TT titles I've picked up. Sometimes they used old and ugly masters, but at least they were technically proficient on the encoding end.

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=2&x...0&l=0&i=1&go=1

I know it is zoomed here but look at her face and the part of the siding to the left of it in the shadow.

Okay ya i see what your saying. I couldn't find any comparisons with the Sony MOD Oliver and the Twilight Time so i just went with the Sony since it was cheaper. It's going to be released in 4K in september anyways so i'm sure that release will blow both blu-ray's out of the water.

pleasehello · 06-30-2021, 10:19 PM

The Sony Oliver! release is a BD50 and looks almost identical to the Twilight Time release. Any film under 2hrs though, they cram onto a BD25. Sony's Bell, Book and Candle encode is horrible, especially when compared to the Twilight Time version.

I'm really disliking these older catalog Sony/Columbia releases. I'm not buying them, but it's not because I don't like the films. Sony won't know that though.

milojthatch · 06-30-2021, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by lilboyblu

Pal Joey is one of the titles in Mill Creek's Rita Hayworth Collection too.

I have this set, so probably not double dipping for a MOD disc unless some new information can change my mind.

roxy1927 · 07-02-2021, 09:56 AM

Well then I'm glad I got Picnic when it was on Twilight Time paying more for it because it was sold out.

Joe Bond · 08-16-2021, 10:18 PM

Does anyone know if the Sony BD has any bonus features? Perhaps the DVD featurette from the Kim Novak collection? I can't seem to find what if any bonus content the new disc has. Appreciate any info.

dukiejosh54 · 08-16-2021, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Bond

Does anyone know if the Sony BD has any bonus features? Perhaps the DVD featurette from the Kim Novak collection? I can't seem to find what if any bonus content the new disc has. Appreciate any info.

It has Backstage and at home with Kim Novak and also the theatrical trailer.

Joe Bond · 08-16-2021, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dukiejosh54

It has Backstage and at home with Kim Novak and also the theatrical trailer.

Cool thanks for the info!

Geode · 08-19-2021, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jar Jar Stinks

I found this post in the Rita Hayworth Ultimate Collection thread: Originally Posted by Thad Komorowski View Post
PAL JOEY is encoded here at about 57% the rate as the Twilight Time BD. I did a 1:1 comparison for curiosity's sake and it's the same transfer. And it looks like sh*t here.

So, if true, that's the answer.

My calculation is 78% of the rate, not 57% taking the DVDbeaver video bitrate of 32 Mbps for the TT, and 25.1 Mbps from a post in the Rita Hayworth collection thread.

06-24-2021, 02:13 PM	#2
Torgon Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Sep 2009 Location:Virginia Home Theater Gallery:1 4K collection:872 Blu-ray collection:2522 DVD collection:522 Blu-ray reviews: 7 Trading Score:2	Looks like Sony has made this and Bye, Bye Birdie part of their MOD program. Both are former Twilight Time blu-rays. What else may be coming? Last edited by Torgon; 06-24-2021 at 02:29 PM.

06-24-2021, 08:06 PM	#3
lilboyblu Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Apr 2010 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Trading Score:19	Pal Joey is one of the titles in Mill Creek's Rita Hayworth Collection too.

06-24-2021, 10:49 PM	#4
jtsjc1 Active Member Member since:Oct 2014 Location:NJ	Great version of The Lady Is A Tramp.

06-25-2021, 09:01 PM	#6
Brian81 Blu-ray Champion Member since:Mar 2011 Trading Score:4	Seeing the difference between the Sony release Picnic and the Twilight Time on Caps site, makes me think Twilight Time releases still may be the way to go. Too bad they are more expensive.

06-30-2021, 10:19 PM	#14
pleasehello Junior Member Member since:Jan 2017	The Sony Oliver! release is a BD50 and looks almost identical to the Twilight Time release. Any film under 2hrs though, they cram onto a BD25. Sony's Bell, Book and Candle encode is horrible, especially when compared to the Twilight Time version. I'm really disliking these older catalog Sony/Columbia releases. I'm not buying them, but it's not because I don't like the films. Sony won't know that though.

07-02-2021, 09:56 AM	#16
roxy1927 Junior Member Member since:Aug 2018	Well then I'm glad I got Picnic when it was on Twilight Time paying more for it because it was sold out.

08-16-2021, 10:18 PM	#17
Joe Bond Active Member Member since:Sep 2009 4K collection:19 Blu-ray collection:541 DVD collection:154 Digital collection:3 iTunes collection:150 Blu-ray reviews: 4	Does anyone know if the Sony BD has any bonus features? Perhaps the DVD featurette from the Kim Novak collection? I can't seem to find what if any bonus content the new disc has. Appreciate any info.

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