Michael Jackson's Journey from Motown to Off The Wall (2016) - Blu-ray Forum

Eric The Duke · 01-07-2016, 05:15 PM

A new Spike Lee documentary on the early part of MJ's career. Something nice to go along with the Bad 25 Bluray. It's being released on DVD and Bluray, but so far it looks like it's only packaged with the Off The Wall album. Time will tell if it will be sold separately.

http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/new...ng-february-26

Spooked · 01-07-2016, 07:33 PM

Awesome. Thanks for the head's up!

filmmusic · 01-07-2016, 09:55 PM

When we will see Michael Jackson's video clips on Bluray?

TylerDurden389 · 01-07-2016, 11:45 PM

Very interested in this. As a kid, I had "The Making of Thriller", "Moonwalker", and "Michael Jackson: The Legend Continues" on one videotape and I wore that sucker out. The thing that confused me though was why there was virtually nothing between Jackson's childhood, up until his solo career. Everything from 1973-1978 was almost completely missing in those specials.

Granted, thanks to the internet, there's a whole wealth of videos from those years now, be it the Jackson's variety hour, live performances (Soul Train comes to mind), and various interviews and awards clips. But it's gonna be great to finally have something official. I know Spike will do MJ proud.

**Edit** If this sells well, I really hope they do some official blu releases of some full concerts from '78-'84. Now there's stuff that really needs to get out there. And again, a wealth of it on youtube, but it needs to be remastered.

Eric The Duke · 02-17-2016, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by filmmusic

When we will see Michael Jackson's video clips on Bluray?

I think most of his music videos were edited on video and not edited on film so maybe HD quality music videos don't exist? I don't know if that's true but that is what I heard in the past.

AgentOrange · 02-17-2016, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric The Duke

I think most of his music videos were edited on video and not edited on film so maybe HD quality music videos don't exist? I don't know if that's true but that is what I heard in the past.

Without knowing the specifics of Michael Jackson's videos, I would guess just about the entire MTV era of music video - was either shot on video or "edited" on video. This includes music videos and concert performance. 16mm concert films were somewhat rare, and 35mm films were extremely rare. Most of that stuff was instead all shot on video tape, and forever stuck in NTSC format (VHS/DVD).

There are exceptions though, and it looks like Thriller was definitely shot on 35mm (it was even screened theatrically as a short film).

Batmon77 · 02-17-2016, 04:02 PM

Day one

Eric The Duke · 02-23-2016, 02:50 PM

I'll be picking this up Friday at Best Buy for $19.99!

filmbuffTX · 02-23-2016, 03:16 PM

This is also airing on Showtime. I DVRed it over the weekend. I haven't watched it yet.

mjg87 · 02-23-2016, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AgentOrange

Without knowing the specifics of Michael Jackson's videos, I would guess just about the entire MTV era of music video - was either shot on video or "edited" on video. This includes music videos and concert performance. 16mm concert films were somewhat rare, and 35mm films were extremely rare. Most of that stuff was instead all shot on video tape, and forever stuck in NTSC format (VHS/DVD).

There are exceptions though, and it looks like Thriller was definitely shot on 35mm (it was even screened theatrically as a short film).

Judging by Bad 25 and the HD outtakes etc. they showed from the Bad video, it was definitely shot on film as well. Only ones afaik that weren't shot on film were Off The Wall and Rock With You. They'd likely have to all be re-edited an digitally scanned. But the estate doesn't seem like they're into quality and remastering the videos. Bummer for sure

Member-260138 · 02-23-2016, 09:43 PM

I did catch it on Showtime. Thought it was an eye opening and entertaining experience. Worthy a watch.

tehthomas · 02-23-2016, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Philip

I did catch it on Showtime. Thought it was an eye opening and entertaining experience. Worthy a watch.

Yep.

14728 · 02-23-2016, 10:41 PM

I'm wondering why it isn't listed on bd.com yet. Ah well. I'll still check it out

Batmon77 · 02-26-2016, 01:24 PM

This is not at my local Target.

Eric The Duke · 02-26-2016, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Batmon77

This is not at my local Target.

The weekly flyer for Target this week didn't have this in it so I'm assuming they won't be selling it. My local Best Buy opens in 20 minutes where I will be getting it.

Batmon77 · 02-26-2016, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric The Duke

The weekly flyer for Target this week didn't have this in it so I'm assuming they won't be selling it. My local Best Buy opens in 20 minutes where I will be getting it.

Good luck.....I doubt Best Buy has it.

It doesnt show up as being available for store pickup for 250 miles near me.

Eric The Duke · 02-26-2016, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Batmon77

Good luck.....I doubt Best Buy has it.

It doesnt show up as being available for store pickup for 250 miles near me.

I got it from Best Buy. Your local BB should have it because it is in their weekly flyer.

Batmon77 · 02-26-2016, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by eric the duke

i got it from best buy. Your local bb should have it because it is in their weekly flyer.

on my way!

scissorpuppy · 02-26-2016, 03:20 PM

While it’s true that most music videos from the MTV heyday are stuck at 480i due to being edited on video. MJ is an exception in some cases because a few of his videos went to festivals and a lot of the Bad videos were apart of the Moonwalker film. These exceptions went through the entire typical film post production process of the day, meaning edited on film.

Thriller and Bad (long version) were screened theatrically for festivals and award consideration and have a film master. Moonwalker is currently available on Blu from Europe and looks great, the excellent Smooth Criminal (full version) video looks awesome! Stan Winston’s GHOSTS short film was also finished on film for theatrical presentation and has been broadcast in HD in some international markets, but it’s an older master and may well be an up convert.

Even at that, the pre Dangerous videos (That were shot on film, a few were shot on video) would be easily reconstructed in HD if the original elements could be found, (Except Billie Jean which uses 80’s cheese video transistions, but that’s not hard to mimic) most of these videos feature standard cut/edits that could be redone in an afternoon. It’s the Dangerous/HIStory era videos that pose a problem as they used a lot of “modern” video/computer effects of the day and those effects would have to be recreated. I’ve always said if they were going to do this, they should do it now while those video’s directors are still alive so they can oversee the process.

babybreese · 02-26-2016, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric The Duke

Your local BB should have it because it is in their weekly flyer.

Not always the case, just because it's in the flyer does not mean your local store will have it. Sometimes their site will say an item is in stock locally but if you go there you found it is not.

I have been through this with with Best Buy customer service...it is akin to false advertising in my book

01-07-2016, 05:15 PM	#1
Eric The Duke Active Member Member since:Apr 2013	Michael Jackson's Journey from Motown to Off The Wall (2016) A new Spike Lee documentary on the early part of MJ's career. Something nice to go along with the Bad 25 Bluray. It's being released on DVD and Bluray, but so far it looks like it's only packaged with the Off The Wall album. Time will tell if it will be sold separately. http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/new...ng-february-26

01-07-2016, 07:33 PM	#2
Spooked Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Aug 2013 Location:Washington Home Theater Gallery:2 4K collection:152 Blu-ray collection:434 DVD collection:43 MA collection:130 Digital collection:68 iTunes collection:3 Prime collection:22 Trading Score:3	Awesome. Thanks for the head's up!

01-07-2016, 09:55 PM	#3
filmmusic Banned Top contributor Member since:Sep 2010 Trading Score:5	When we will see Michael Jackson's video clips on Bluray?

01-07-2016, 11:45 PM	#4
TylerDurden389 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Oct 2013 Location:Brooklyn NY	Very interested in this. As a kid, I had "The Making of Thriller", "Moonwalker", and "Michael Jackson: The Legend Continues" on one videotape and I wore that sucker out. The thing that confused me though was why there was virtually nothing between Jackson's childhood, up until his solo career. Everything from 1973-1978 was almost completely missing in those specials. Granted, thanks to the internet, there's a whole wealth of videos from those years now, be it the Jackson's variety hour, live performances (Soul Train comes to mind), and various interviews and awards clips. But it's gonna be great to finally have something official. I know Spike will do MJ proud. Edit If this sells well, I really hope they do some official blu releases of some full concerts from '78-'84. Now there's stuff that really needs to get out there. And again, a wealth of it on youtube, but it needs to be remastered.

02-17-2016, 04:02 PM	#7
Batmon77 Blu-ray Baron Member since:Oct 2011 Location:New York City 4K collection:13 Blu-ray collection:428 DVD collection:1	Day one

02-23-2016, 02:50 PM	#8
Eric The Duke Active Member Member since:Apr 2013	I'll be picking this up Friday at Best Buy for $19.99!

02-23-2016, 03:16 PM	#9
filmbuffTX Blu-ray Duke Top contributor Member since:May 2015 4K collection:267 Blu-ray collection:6361 DVD collection:2270 Digital collection:1617 Blu-ray reviews: 2 Trading Score:16	This is also airing on Showtime. I DVRed it over the weekend. I haven't watched it yet.

02-23-2016, 09:43 PM	#11
Member-260138 Expert Member Member since:Apr 2013 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:1182 Trading Score:1	I did catch it on Showtime. Thought it was an eye opening and entertaining experience. Worthy a watch.

02-23-2016, 10:41 PM	#13
14728 Expert Member Member since:Sep 2012 4K collection:7 Blu-ray collection:367 DVD collection:195 Trading Score:11	I'm wondering why it isn't listed on bd.com yet. Ah well. I'll still check it out

02-26-2016, 01:24 PM	#14
Batmon77 Blu-ray Baron Member since:Oct 2011 Location:New York City 4K collection:13 Blu-ray collection:428 DVD collection:1	This is not at my local Target.

02-26-2016, 03:20 PM	#19
scissorpuppy Expert Member Member since:Aug 2012 Blu-ray collection:4 DVD collection:1 Trading Score:167	While it’s true that most music videos from the MTV heyday are stuck at 480i due to being edited on video. MJ is an exception in some cases because a few of his videos went to festivals and a lot of the Bad videos were apart of the Moonwalker film. These exceptions went through the entire typical film post production process of the day, meaning edited on film. Thriller and Bad (long version) were screened theatrically for festivals and award consideration and have a film master. Moonwalker is currently available on Blu from Europe and looks great, the excellent Smooth Criminal (full version) video looks awesome! Stan Winston’s GHOSTS short film was also finished on film for theatrical presentation and has been broadcast in HD in some international markets, but it’s an older master and may well be an up convert. Even at that, the pre Dangerous videos (That were shot on film, a few were shot on video) would be easily reconstructed in HD if the original elements could be found, (Except Billie Jean which uses 80’s cheese video transistions, but that’s not hard to mimic) most of these videos feature standard cut/edits that could be redone in an afternoon. It’s the Dangerous/HIStory era videos that pose a problem as they used a lot of “modern” video/computer effects of the day and those effects would have to be recreated. I’ve always said if they were going to do this, they should do it now while those video’s directors are still alive so they can oversee the process.

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