Tennshi no Tamago (Angel's Egg) [anime]

[filmmusic]

Has anyone got this? Any review on the quality?



http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B00DHD9J68/ref=s9_simh_gw_p74_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=AN1VRQENFRJN5&pf_ rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=166XEQKK6XQW32NN5R4M&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p =463376756&pf_rd_i=489986


here's a google translated review, but can't understand much:

Only a brief introduction of the work jacket
without any and liner notes.
Illustrations that were used in the DVD cover art is printed on the jacket inside the entire surface. Audio and stereo audio mono original. Much commentary of staff supervision and colleagues where you want. It is on a comparison of the LD but the image quality has a high resolution of HD seems to be confirmed small detail description. However, it is not the feeling that cel is moving focus is not match the chattering. Dust and cell scratches, and slightly also because it is a screen full-length dark tone is followed so that the look, but do not mind so much. Promo video of the privilege in the thing using the illustration of Mr. Amano things I've never heard the soundtrack and the main part music that is being used. Just not enough in the merchandise and was turned into BD simply.

[Zen_Amako]

I picked it up. Many people find it too slow, but Tenshi no tamago has long been one of my favorite films. That review seems pretty accurate. Scratches and speckles are visible on the print. The film appears to have been transferred to Blu-ray without any kind of restoration or digital tinkering. To me it looks the way I might imagine a nice film print would look.

[ly000001]

Originally Posted by filmmusic

Has anyone got this? Any review on the quality?

I do. Like the Japanese reviewer below, I have only the Laserdisc version to compare it to, so it already looks better than the previous copy I own It includes a two minute promo trailer consisting the camera panning over and zooming out of Yoshitaka Amano's illustrations for the movie, but I think it's an upscale from standard definition.

http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B00DHD9J68/ref=s9_simh_gw_p74_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=AN1VRQENFRJN5&pf_ rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=166XEQKK6XQW32NN5R4M&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p =463376756&pf_rd_i=489986


here's a google translated review, but can't understand much:

<snip!>

He/she said basically the following:

• the jacket is simple and the inside cover uses the art from the DVD version (the Blu-ray case is clear plastic)
• there are no liner notes
• the audio includes both the original monaural and stereo tracks
• he/she wishes it had audio commentary from the director or staff
• compared to the LD, it seems to be HD, he/she can make out fine details
• not sure what he/she means, but he/she doesn't feel the focus and the cel movement is firm
• although the whole film's images have a dark tone, he/she can see slight scratches and dust but doesn't mind
• the special promo trailer used illustrations by Amano but the music used isn't anything he/she heard from the main feature or the soundtrack
• it's just the movie turned into a BD

[filmmusic]

Oh, thank you very much.
I hoped for more exceptional results and restoration that would make the film look gorgeous.
So, from what you both say I gather it has a mediocre quality for Bluray..

Could I ask for a couple of screenshots please if anyone can do that?

[Bubblegum2032]

I could post some shots from both versions but I don't seem to be able to post links or pics, is that because i'm still classified as a new member?

[filmmusic]

hmmm... I'm not sure.
You mean you don't see the icon for "insert image"?

If you can post them in private messages though, you can prive me, and i will put them here..


By the way, what both versions do you mean?
laserdisc and Bluray?

[Bubblegum2032]

edit: Ah I see why I was having trouble with my posting. Don't mind me.

Anyhoo I'll try pm-ing them to you.

[filmmusic]

Here are the screenshots that Bubblegum grabbed,and whom I thank very much!!
(above: R2DVD [2007 TOKUMA re-release], below: Bluray)

By the way, there are indeed no subtitles, right?

[Bubblegum2032]

no subs whatsoever.

[Kaminari]

The PQ is certainly not mediocre.

The film was cleaned but not digitally remastered. How could it have been? Tenshi no Tamago is an early and largely overlooked masterpiece from Oshii. The production was obviously made on a tight budget.

The BD print is in rather good shape, with minimal wobbling effect and some speckles which you tend to ignore after a while. I own the Laserdisc and the DVD, and the BD is definitely sharper. The majority of the film taking place at night, the shadows reveal a surprising amount of details, and I didn't spot any macroblocking or banding.

A very small staff was dedicated to the Blu-ray authoring (whose names you can read after the credits), and I suspect the restoration budget was next to non-existant. Considering the DVD never made it outside of Japan, it's a miracle that it was even released on BD in such a decent form. If you expected a Ghibli or Disney-style presentation, then you were misleading yourself.

[Thomas Guycott]

Originally Posted by Bubblegum2032

no subs whatsoever.

I've heard that there's very little dialog in the film, so is it watchable in raw Japanese without subs?

[Bubblegum2032]

Originally Posted by Thomas Guycott

I've heard that there's very little dialog in the film, so is it watchable in raw Japanese without subs?

Imagery is certainly the most significant aspect of Angel’s Egg. Dialogue is indeed sparse but like the Christian symbolism and character actions/ intentions, it’s all overtly expressionistic and open to interpretation. One person could take more from what little is spoken than another, therefore not understanding the dialogue could be detrimental in one’s ability to analyse the cryptic messages and metaphors that reside within Tenshi no Tamago. On the other hand the dialogue, just like the rest of the film could be a bunch of arbitrary religious nonsense, existing with little rhyme or reason.

Personally I think it should be viewed first with an understanding of what is said, subsequent viewings on blu-ray without the subs would then be fair game.

[celticmoon]

I ordered this along with some other stuff on Amazon JP a couple of days ago. I ordered it a long with Princess Mononoke, which is a preorder, so I'll have to wait a couple more weeks.

It's actually a blind buy for me (an expensive one, I know), but the artistry displayed was enough for me to take the chance. Hope I like it!

[Zen_Amako]

If you like slow, surreal films that are heavy on symbolism you should like it. The art holds up very well considering its age (it will be 30 years old in 2015).

[Cvalda]

Originally Posted by Thomas Guycott

I've heard that there's very little dialog in the film, so is it watchable in raw Japanese without subs?

There are only around 50 lines of dialogue, mostly the little girl asking the mysterious male figure "Who are you?". However, you do need subtitles for one very important scene, where the male figure narrates the story of Noah's Ark, but the story starts to diverge from the Biblical tale, taking on a more fatalistic ending, and then starts trying to convince the girl to break open her egg.

Like others have said, the film is a masterpiece, with an INCREDIBLE score, and the transfer on the Blu-ray is gorgeous.

[celticmoon]

So, I watched this for the first time.

The PQ seemed pretty good to me. Sure, there are some speckles here and there, but it's crisp and really enhances the visuals.

As for the film itself, I'm not sure what to make of it at this point. Like, I think I have some ideas of what it's about, but on the other hand, I'm like, what just happened there...? lol. It'll definitely require a few more viewings. It was a little more abstract than I expected, and while I'm more of a fan of the conventional narrative (I know most people are), I definitely found it intriguing.

In terms of the more superficial aspects... This is an absolutely gorgeous film. The visuals and the use of sound/music is quite something. The backgrounds are lovely, and seeing Amano's illustrations come to life through animation is really something. I'm imagining the budget wasn't very big on this film, and so the animation itself seemed pretty limited throughout, but the scenes where movement was required were very well animated and dynamic. And since the artistry on display was so glorious, I wasn't at all bothered by the more static scenes. It is pure visual beauty from start to finish.

[Zen_Amako]

I think the movie is mainly about faith. The girl has faith that her egg is going to hatch and the man needs proof ("you have to break an egg to find out what's inside"). In the end, he shatters the egg and it is revealed to be empty.

Then you have the people who constantly try to catch the fish that may not exist.

In the movie's version of the story of Noah's ark, when Noah sent a bird to find out if the flood waters had abated, the bird never returned. They waited and waited until they forgot there even was a bird.

The bird is a symbol of hope. It's still there, still sleeping and dreaming, but it has been forgotten. It's waiting for someone to believe in it again.

After the girl drowns, more eggs surface, and she reappears as an angel on board the ship in the sky.

[Cvalda]

The film takes on a whole new dimension when you learn that Oshii was in training to become a Christian priest, but lost his faith before production on Angel's Egg began. It's obviously a very personal film for him, and he apparently does not talk about the meaning of it or symbolism in interviews.

[UseY0ur1llusi0n]

Some pics

[Bubblegum2032]

Originally Posted by UseY0ur1llusi0n

Some pics

[Show spoiler]http://i.imgur.com/QQkotHi.jpg

[Show spoiler]http://i.imgur.com/MhVzUzK.jpg

tenshi no tamago ekonte shiyuu = Angels Egg Storyboard, right?
Wasn't aware this existed. Was it released to coincide with the BD?