The Lost Honor of Katharina Blum (1975) - Blu-ray Forum

MifuneFan · 05-15-2020, 04:26 PM

https://www.criterion.com/films/726-...katharina-blum

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When a young woman spends the night with an alleged terrorist, her quiet, ordered life falls into ruins. The Lost Honor of Katharina Blum portrays an anxious era in West Germany amid a crumbling postwar political consensus. Katharina, though apparently innocent, suddenly becomes a suspect, falling prey to a vicious smear campaign by the police and a ruthless tabloid journalist that tests the limits of her dignity and her sanity. Crafting one of the most accessible and direct works of 1970s political filmmaking, Volker Schlöndorff and Margarethe von Trotta deliver a powerful adaptation of Heinrich Böll’s novel, a stinging commentary on state power, individual freedom, and media manipulation that is as relevant today as when it was released.

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SPECIAL FEATURES

Blu-ray: New 4K digital restoration, approved by director Volker Schlöndorff and producer Eberhard Junkersdorf, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack
DVD: Digital transfer, enhanced for 16x9 televisions
Interview from 2002 with directors Schlöndorff and Margarethe von Trotta
Interview from 2002 with director of photography Jost Vacano
Excerpts from a 1977 documentary on author Heinrich Böll
Trailer
PLUS: An essay by film critic Amy Taubin (Blu-ray only)

New cover by Joan Wong

Dailyan · 05-15-2020, 04:33 PM

I've been interested in seeing this one since I saw a trailer for it from the StudioCanal-remastered "Paris, Texas" release.

FragnitoM · 07-30-2020, 09:52 AM

One of my favorite films (wrote a paper on it in college) and most wanted upgrades. Bummed this just misses the sale

anthonyls · 07-30-2020, 03:33 PM

This is a pretty good movie... I'm surprised there aren't more comments about it here.

castor · 07-31-2020, 02:21 AM

It's a very good movie. I have the Optimum blu, which I should watch again one of these days. I think it's been maybe 2 years since I last watched it.

leoganzi · 08-20-2020, 09:08 AM

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Alfred E. Neumann · 08-20-2020, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by leoganzi

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=14...80&i=3&l=1&a=0

That's not the new 4k restoration.
They accidentally used the old master?

leoganzi · 08-20-2020, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Alfred E. Neumann

That's not the new 4k restoration.
They accidently used the old master?

Given the caps, the Criterion looks like the same dated master as the UK release, yeah. The 2019 German release looks different and better. That's strange...

Dan8700 · 08-20-2020, 09:17 AM

Yeah, that's clearly NOT the 4k restoration.... and the usual reviewer on this site didn't even notice, of course. Not fair of Criterion fellas anyway; maybe an error, but it's unlikely.

leoganzi · 08-20-2020, 09:27 AM

^^ This is why I don't usually trust reviews of the site. There are so many completely out of whack reviews here.

MifuneFan · 08-20-2020, 12:14 PM

I'm starting to think StudioCanal are intentionally screwing with Criterion. This is the 2nd recent example where Criterion advertised or informed people that they had a newer scan, only to have a dated one. The other example being Pierre le Fou. Kino also was informed of having a newer restoration for Kind Hearts and Coronets, but were given the older one by SC. Clearly a pattern here..

CelestialAgent · 08-20-2020, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by leoganzi

Given the caps, the Criterion looks like the same dated master as the UK release, yeah. The 2019 German release looks different and better. That's strange...

The colours at least seem different/better?

Alfred E. Neumann · 08-20-2020, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CelestialAgent

The colours at least seem different/better?

No.
https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&...47602&i=12&l=1

CelestialAgent · 08-20-2020, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Alfred E. Neumann

No.
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No chance the German remaster has English subtitles for the extras?

Dailyan · 08-20-2020, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CelestialAgent

No chance the German remaster has English subtitles for the extras?

No English subs for the extras.

SpaceBlackKnight · 08-21-2020, 02:37 AM

Yup it's clearly the older 2010 StudioCanal master seen on the UK and original German Blus. The old SC transfer was supposedly 4k but done on older tech and it's possible the German Director and Producer preferred and approved that one over the new 4k master for some reason, which could explain Criterions odd description.

The new 4k master seen on the SE German Blu was also reportedly done in HDR, but it's possible the German producers didn't approve it for some reason.

professorwho · 08-21-2020, 03:00 AM

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For those who've seen the film before: the white line- is that a cigarette or a scratch?

leoganzi · 08-21-2020, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by professorwho

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For those who've seen the film before: the white line- is that a cigarette or a scratch?

It's a pen. That guy is holding a pen in that scene. Now I see it is missing on the new German release... What a mess

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professorwho · 08-21-2020, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by leoganzi

It's a pen. That guy is holding a pen in that scene. Now I see it is missing on the new German release... What a mess

Wow. I was seriously hoping it was a scratch left there by mistake, and not actual detail removed...

*Gets Shout Factory "The Thing" flashbacks*

SpaceBlackKnight · 08-21-2020, 04:44 AM

Well, that could be one of the reasons why the director decided not to approve the 4k transfer and have StudioCanal supply Criterion the old 4k master.

08-20-2020, 09:17 AM	#9
Dan8700 Special Member Top contributor Member since:May 2011 Location:Rome, Italy 4K collection:42 Blu-ray collection:1178	Yeah, that's clearly NOT the 4k restoration.... and the usual reviewer on this site didn't even notice, of course. Not fair of Criterion fellas anyway; maybe an error, but it's unlikely. Last edited by Dan8700; 08-20-2020 at 09:50 AM.

08-20-2020, 12:14 PM	#11
MifuneFan Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Mar 2012 Location:New York City 4K collection:27 Blu-ray collection:1143 Trading Score:69	I'm starting to think StudioCanal are intentionally screwing with Criterion. This is the 2nd recent example where Criterion advertised or informed people that they had a newer scan, only to have a dated one. The other example being Pierre le Fou. Kino also was informed of having a newer restoration for Kind Hearts and Coronets, but were given the older one by SC. Clearly a pattern here.. Last edited by MifuneFan; 08-20-2020 at 05:14 PM.

05-15-2020, 04:33 PM	#2
Dailyan Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Feb 2015 Location:Beyond the Blue Horizon 4K collection:195 Blu-ray collection:2245 DVD collection:197 Blu-ray reviews: 58 Trading Score:55	I've been interested in seeing this one since I saw a trailer for it from the StudioCanal-remastered "Paris, Texas" release.

07-30-2020, 09:52 AM	#3
FragnitoM Power Member Member since:Jul 2018 Location:Washington, DC 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Trading Score:3	One of my favorite films (wrote a paper on it in college) and most wanted upgrades. Bummed this just misses the sale

07-30-2020, 03:33 PM	#4
anthonyls Power Member Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Portland, OR Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:44	This is a pretty good movie... I'm surprised there aren't more comments about it here.

07-31-2020, 02:21 AM	#5
castor Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2015 Location:Texas 4K collection:53 Blu-ray collection:617 DVD collection:94	It's a very good movie. I have the Optimum blu, which I should watch again one of these days. I think it's been maybe 2 years since I last watched it.

08-20-2020, 09:08 AM	#6
leoganzi Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Jul 2012 4K collection:83 Blu-ray collection:388 DVD collection:88 Blu-ray reviews:2	https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=14...80&i=3&l=1&a=0

08-20-2020, 09:27 AM	#10
leoganzi Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Jul 2012 4K collection:83 Blu-ray collection:388 DVD collection:88 Blu-ray reviews:2	^^ This is why I don't usually trust reviews of the site. There are so many completely out of whack reviews here.

08-21-2020, 02:37 AM	#16
SpaceBlackKnight Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2018 4K collection:25 Blu-ray collection:346 Digital collection:20	Yup it's clearly the older 2010 StudioCanal master seen on the UK and original German Blus. The old SC transfer was supposedly 4k but done on older tech and it's possible the German Director and Producer preferred and approved that one over the new 4k master for some reason, which could explain Criterions odd description. The new 4k master seen on the SE German Blu was also reportedly done in HDR, but it's possible the German producers didn't approve it for some reason.

08-21-2020, 03:00 AM	#17
professorwho Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Apr 2017 4K collection:229 Blu-ray collection:982 Blu-ray reviews: 64 Trading Score:7	https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&...147583&i=6&l=1 For those who've seen the film before: the white line- is that a cigarette or a scratch?

08-21-2020, 04:44 AM	#20
SpaceBlackKnight Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2018 4K collection:25 Blu-ray collection:346 Digital collection:20	Well, that could be one of the reasons why the director decided not to approve the 4k transfer and have StudioCanal supply Criterion the old 4k master.

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