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Old 05-03-2013, 03:52 PM   #1
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Default Movies where an HDTV broadcast transfer is better than the Blu-ray

I know there are some examples of this, but I forgot the titles.
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Old 05-03-2013, 03:57 PM   #2
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I'm not really sure what you're asking here, "Movies where an HDTV transfer is better than the blu ray". I would think the HD"TV" transfer would be Blu ray, unless you mean the HD "DVD" transfer.
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I've seen some very good quality HD presentations on TV, but never anything that rivaled a Blu-Ray image. Game of Thrones on HBO HD looks EXTREMELY good, but it still is compressed quite a bit on Dish, which is what we have at home. Until we get the cable and satellite providers to really amp up their bandwidth, compression is going to rob the image of any chance it has to complete with Blu-Ray.
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Old 05-03-2013, 04:06 PM   #4
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I know there are some examples of this, but I forgot the titles.
I saw Star Trek: First Contact on Universal HD about a year before the BD came out; the HD broadcast had none of the noise reduction that plagues the BD release and was less contrasty. It seems like that broadcast was the "straight" film to digital transfer, and then it was tweaked for the BD release.
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Old 05-03-2013, 04:08 PM   #5
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I can swear I have heard of a few movies for HD TV that suites the OP's question?
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Old 05-03-2013, 04:23 PM   #6
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I'm not really sure what you're asking here, "Movies where an HDTV transfer is better than the blu ray". I would think the HD"TV" transfer would be Blu ray, unless you mean the HD "DVD" transfer.
The OP means cases that the HDTV television transfer (the one shown on television, either on cable or pay channels) is better than the one released on physical Blu-ray.

This can conceivably happen if the HDTV transfer is newer than the Blu-ray (which I bet will become increasingly common as Blu-ray ages, as some Blu-rays are going on seven years old), or if (as someone mentioned above in regards to Trek) additional tinkering like DNR was done to the Blu-ray version that does not appear on the HDTV version.
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Old 05-03-2013, 05:21 PM   #7
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I believe the HDTV version of Death Wish 2 is uncut, where the BD is not, making the HDTV version better. Even though the BD may look better, a cut film is always inferior in my view.
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Old 05-03-2013, 09:57 PM   #9
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A video quality upgrade is rare, but there are other pluses. Ernest Scared Stupid has a higher audio bit rate for the hdtv version. The Warriors has been showing on EpixHD using the theatrical cut but with the blu-ray master for video quality..
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Back when I had my 42" TV I remember thinking the 2Fast 2Furious HDTV (cable) transfer looked much more detailed and crisp than the Bluray. I remember they even had it zoomed to fit the whole screen.

I would be curious to compare now that I have a much better 60" which is making every blu look more amazing.
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Old 05-03-2013, 11:40 PM   #11
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Old 05-04-2013, 12:12 AM   #14
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Back to the Future is less filtered, though still nothing great.
There's an HDTV rip of Fellowship of the Ring out there that doesn't have the DNR that's on the TE blu-ray but still has the same color timing, if you don't dig on the EE's color grading.
Not many I can think of.
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There are a few more:

ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK: the HDnet version looks MUCH better than the recent MGM blu-ray release, which is a bit murky on detail (whereas the HDnet version has the proper color timing, normal brightness and a lot of detail)

LAST OF THE MOHICANS: the HDnet version has the proper brightness levels, and is also the theatrical cut. The blu is notoriously dark and murky.
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Old 05-04-2013, 02:52 AM   #16
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Somebody once posted that the HD televised Goldeneye had no DNR. I haven't witnessed it to confirm though.
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The OP means cases that the HDTV television transfer (the one shown on television, either on cable or pay channels) is better than the one released on physical Blu-ray.
That makes no sense. How can an HDTV transfer be better than Blu-ray?? Blu-ray uses less compression. HD channels are compressed to death!
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Old 05-04-2013, 06:31 AM   #18
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That makes no sense. How can an HDTV transfer be better than Blu-ray?? Blu-ray uses less compression. HD channels are compressed to death!
Obviously compression isn't everything. The HD version could use a different transfer with different color, less EE/DNR, whatever.
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Obviously compression isn't everything. The HD version could use a different transfer with different color, less EE/DNR, whatever.
Not to mention, it also comes down to the source print used to create the HD digital transfer. If an HDTV broadcast uses a much better source, then it can most definitely look better than a blu-ray release. Hell, just check out the forum threads on all of the various THE PUNISHER (1989) blu-ray releases in Europe (specifically comparing the Danish release with the UK and Germany releases).
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Although it's been teal-and-oranged (not a huge distraction, I just wish people would use a different color scheme these days), there's a new transfer of Con Air that's on HDNet Movies that's much better-looking than the current Blu-ray.
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