Beauty and the Beast 4K UHD (2017)

[Pieter V]

Beauty & The Beast (2017) 4K Blu-ray

[Alwayshappy]

Yay!

[bookcase]

The live action and animated movie will be immediate purchases.

[mysticwaterfall]

The animated version is a must buy but the LA is an easy pass for me, nowhere near as good. It is good to see Disney releasing more 4K though.

[gates70]

Love this one!

[Poya]

Originally Posted by mysticwaterfall

The animated version is a must buy but the LA is an easy pass for me, nowhere near as good. It is good to see Disney releasing more 4K though.

Agreed. Of all the remakes Disney’s done recently, this is the one that pisses me off the most. The original was the greatest story Disney ever told. Perfect songs, perfect villain, perfect animation, etc. It did what it needed to do in 80 minutes than this one did in 2 hours.

[jeangreyforever]

The only live-action remake worse than this were the two Maleficent films.

[Farerb]

Originally Posted by jeangreyforever

The only live-action remake worse than this were the two Maleficent films.

Ironically written by the same writer of the original Beauty and the Beast.
I also found The Lion King boring.

[StarkRomanoff]

So excited for this one! This is imo the best of the live action remakes so far and is gonna look amazing in 4K! It may even be a day-one buy if the inevitable steelbook is good.

[Poya]

Originally Posted by farerb

Ironically written by the same writer of the original Beauty and the Beast.
I also found The Lion King boring.

She also co-wrote the original Lion King, too. What the hell happened?

[Farerb]

Originally Posted by Poya

She also co-wrote the original Lion King, too. What the hell happened?

Films are more a directors/producers media (unlike television where the writers are in charge or theaters where the actors are) so I guess the directors and producers of Beauty and the Beast and The Lion King were amazing while the directors and producers of Maleficent/Alice were terrible and Linda had little impact on all these films.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Poya

Agreed. Of all the remakes Disney’s done recently, this is the one that pisses me off the most. The original was the greatest story Disney ever told. Perfect songs, perfect villain, perfect animation, etc. It did what it needed to do in 80 minutes than this one did in 2 hours.

Perfect? That's a loaded word.

[toasted]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

Perfect? That's a loaded word.

And it's the perfect word to describe the original film.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by toasted

And it's the perfect word to describe the original film.

Belle going off-model constantly...perfection, indeed. We all watch the same movies, but we don't all watch movies the same way.

[Farerb]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

Belle going off-model constantly...perfection, indeed. We all watch the same movies, but we don't all watch movies the same way.

I don't think when people say "perfect" they mean it literally, it just a hyperbolic way of giving a positive praise about something. I don't think Beauty and the Beast is perfect, especially not animation wise, but it is one of the best and one of the most important films WDFA has made.

[Poya]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

Belle going off-model constantly...perfection, indeed. We all watch the same movies, but we don't all watch movies the same way.

The Godfather has a scene where Sonny punches a man with the sound effects out of sync and missing from a mile away. When people say a movie’s perfect, they mention the storytelling qualities, not the technical ones.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by farerb

I don't think when people say "perfect" they mean it literally, it just a hyperbolic way of giving a positive praise about something. I don't think Beauty and the Beast is perfect, especially not animation wise, but it is one of the best and one of the most important films WDFA has made.

Right! That's my nice way of saying "hold your jets, Beauty and the Beast has some Katzenberg-era issues with line art shot-to-shot, sequence to sequence". It's my own issue, no one else needs to be bothered by it. But...when someone calls it perfect...my jaw starts to clench, I start thinking about unaddressed story issues, my own personal issues with the film (can you imagine a Beauty and the Beast where Gaston is not clearly Evil-Signalling from his first scene?), incongruous production values, blah blah blah...and even the sainted Pinocchio has some model issues.

These things drove Walt nuts. The craftsmanship of his films were, to him, as essential as the story. I get it. The craftsmanship, the novelty, was itself a form of entertainment. So...Beauty and the Beast? Has some issues, and everybody loves it regardless, and that's great. Never going to tell someone they shouldn't love what they love.

I said something rude a long time ago talking about the off-model get-it-done moments in Beauty and the Beast, I said it was a pimple on Bambi's ass or something similarly stupid, and I regret it. The production team had a budget they had to work in, with a time-frame they had to complete shots and the film proper, and it is very unfair to slag on a movie for not being Pinocchio or Fantasia.

In my head-space, though...no, can't call Beauty and the Beast "perfect", because I'm watching the animation the entire time.

We all watch the same movies, but we don't all watch them the same way. Beauty and the Beast is a terrific film. The animation in certain shots and some story elements (castle nobody knows about within walking distance from Belle's village? How old was the Prince when he was cursed again? Would the movie be stronger if we found out Gaston was evil at his core at the same time Belle realizes it?) are my own quibbles.

[TheSweetieMan]

Hopefully this will mean Rogue One is around the corner.

A lot of these recently announced Disney titles are available in 4K/HDR on Disney+, so it's nice to see they're still getting physical releases.

[Farerb]

Yeah I'm not nitpicking the fairytale logic. It is what it is in these films, just like I don't care why nobody wonders how there humanoid fox and cat in Pinocchio or why did Cinderella's shoe fall if it was supposed to be a perfect fit. I think the remake was supposed to "fix" these nitpicks and thus created an unimaginative uninspired film.
I disagree about "Hans" Gaston. I think it works if we see through him from the start because the whole point was to present someone who is a complete jerk but people still idolize, just like in real life. We don't need another Hans who makes 180 as an unbelievable twist.
Anyway I also disagree about Walt's films being "Perfect" in regards to animation (maybe with the exception of Sleeping Beauty). I think Cinderella is the best example. She, like Belle, sometimes go off model and some of the designs change throughout the film, like her pink dress. Yet it is still a great movie, regardless of its flaws - animation and storytelling.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by farerb

Yeah I'm not nitpicking the fairytale logic. It is what it is in these films, just like I don't care why nobody wonders how there humanoid fox and cat in Pinocchio or why did Cinderella's shoe fall if it was supposed to be a perfect fit. I think the remake was supposed to "fix" these nitpicks and thus created an unimaginative uninspired film.
I disagree about "Hans" Gaston. I think it works if we see through him from the start because the whole point was to present someone who is a complete jerk but people still idolize, just like in real life. We don't need another Hans who makes 180 as an unbelievable twist.
Anyway I also disagree about Walt's films being "Perfect" in regards to animation (maybe with the exception of Sleeping Beauty). I think Cinderella is the best example. She, like Belle, sometimes go off model and some of the designs change throughout the film, like her pink dress. Yet it is still a great movie, regardless of its flaws - animation and storytelling.

Different animators handled different shots...differently. Yeah, it's even in Pinocchio. It's just not as glaringly obvious. James Baxter Belle singing in the street, goes into library...suddenly off-model record scratch. Off-model Belle. Comes out of library, back to James Baxter. Sequence over, goes to see her daddy, holy mother nuclear record scratch.



Again, this is my issue, no one else's. I can only call my own balls and strikes when it comes to animation. We all see the same movies, but we don't all see movies the same way.